Maven "latest" ain't the latest anymore

[Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>]

Hi, when I configure my Roller Maven builds and choose "Maven (latest)", 
i.e., a desire to see the app run successfully on the newest Maven you 
have loaded, no matter what, I'm not getting the latest available 
(3.0.4) but just the old 2.2.1:

[Roller] $ /home/hudson/tools/java/latest1.6/bin/java -cp
/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/maven-agent.jar:/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/classworlds.jar
hudson.maven.agent.Main /home/hudson/tools/maven/apache-maven-2.2.1
/home/hudson/jenkins-slave/slave.jar
/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/maven-interceptor.jar 60722
/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/maven2.1-interceptor.jar


No problem for me, I'll go back to what I had it for -- Maven 3.0.4 
explicitly.

Might it be good to update the definition of "Maven (latest)" to 3.0.4; 
or, alternatively, if it's a bad idea anyway to rely on a non-specific 
Maven build version (and it may be, idk), just remove the Maven (latest) 
option?  (Although I don't know which Maven version would be used for 
those still on it.)

Incidentally, no big deal for me but when do you plan on loading Maven 
3.0.5?  A new plugin I'd like to rely on unfortunately requires it 
(although I think I need to issue a bug report to that plugin for 
erroneously requiring that modern a version.)

Thanks,
Glen

Re: I'm as blind as a bat (Re: Maven "latest" ain't the latest anymore)

[Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>]

Either way, the definition of "Maven (latest)" is wrong, because if 
"Maven (latest)" meant the latest Maven 1 (as we already have Maven 2 
(latest) and Maven 3 (latest)) it's using Maven 2.x (incorrect), and if 
"Maven (latest)" meant the latest Maven loaded (3.1), it's still 
incorrectly using 2.x.

My suggestions:

1.) Get rid of "Maven (latest)" as it's just too vague and its 
definition changes over time across major versions.  Move any projects 
on that to "Maven 2 (latest)" (as that's what it presently means anyway).

2.) Either change the text "Maven 3 (latest)" to "Maven 3.0.x (latest)" 
(as it's not clear what Maven 3 latest means--3.0.x or 3.1) and consider 
adding a new "Maven 3.1.x (latest)", *or* just change the text of "Maven 
3 (latest) to "Maven 3.1.x (latest)" possibly without adding a "Maven 
3.0.x (latest)".

Regards,
Glen

On 07/31/2013 10:11 AM, Marshall Schor wrote:
> Following the "principle of least surprise", I would have expected that "Maven
> (latest)" without any suffix of 1, 2 or 3, would mean the same as the lastest
> Maven, which is Maven 3.0.5 at the moment.
>
> Perhaps this can be fixed?
>
> -Marshall
>
> On 7/31/2013 6:53 AM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't realize Maven latest meant Maven 1 latest, there's Maven 2
>> (latest) and Maven (3) latest, and there's even Maven 3.0.5.
>>
>> Never mind.  :)
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On 07/31/2013 06:51 AM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>>> Hi, when I configure my Roller Maven builds and choose "Maven (latest)",
>>> i.e., a desire to see the app run successfully on the newest Maven you have
>>> loaded, no matter what, I'm not getting the latest available (3.0.4) but just
>>> the old 2.2.1:
>>

Re: I'm as blind as a bat (Re: Maven "latest" ain't the latest anymore)

[Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>]

Following the "principle of least surprise", I would have expected that "Maven
(latest)" without any suffix of 1, 2 or 3, would mean the same as the lastest
Maven, which is Maven 3.0.5 at the moment.

Perhaps this can be fixed?

-Marshall

On 7/31/2013 6:53 AM, Glen Mazza wrote:
> Sorry, I didn't realize Maven latest meant Maven 1 latest, there's Maven 2
> (latest) and Maven (3) latest, and there's even Maven 3.0.5.
>
> Never mind.  :)
>
> Glen
>
> On 07/31/2013 06:51 AM, Glen Mazza wrote:
>> Hi, when I configure my Roller Maven builds and choose "Maven (latest)",
>> i.e., a desire to see the app run successfully on the newest Maven you have
>> loaded, no matter what, I'm not getting the latest available (3.0.4) but just
>> the old 2.2.1:
>
>

I'm as blind as a bat (Re: Maven "latest" ain't the latest anymore)

[Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>]

Sorry, I didn't realize Maven latest meant Maven 1 latest, there's Maven 
2 (latest) and Maven (3) latest, and there's even Maven 3.0.5.

Never mind.  :)

Glen

On 07/31/2013 06:51 AM, Glen Mazza wrote:
> Hi, when I configure my Roller Maven builds and choose "Maven 
> (latest)", i.e., a desire to see the app run successfully on the 
> newest Maven you have loaded, no matter what, I'm not getting the 
> latest available (3.0.4) but just the old 2.2.1: