sa-learn with modified reply-to address

[br...@sptroth.com]

Hello All

I would change or add the reply-to address to "misstakes@mydomain.tld" of 
each message before learning.
This to prevent failures or misstakes while sending messages to the 
sa-host.

Can someone tell me if this method is suitable for the bayes database?

Thanks in advance
Bruno

Re: sa-learn with modified reply-to address

[Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>]

bruno.delladucata@sptroth.com wrote:
>
> We are using Lotus Notes / Domino for sending the messages to the
> sa-host.
>
> When a user is reporting a message as spam or ham, the recipient address
> is modified to spam@sa-host.tld or ham@...  and then copied into the
> router mailbox from the domino server.
> The Domino router then sends the message to the sa-host where postfix
> accept the message and
> put it into a Maildir driectory.
>
> Here you can see a fragment of a message sent to the sa-host (before
> learning):
Hmm, the changing of the To: address is going to result in sub-optimal
learning. SA's bayes does heavily tokenize To: headers. I'd be more
concerned about that than changing the Reply-To.

That said, your learning may be a bit sub-optimal, but I don't think it
would have a severe impact on SA's normal operation.

The only other thing to worry about is if domino modifies the body when
it gets the message. Some groupware type systems do things like
normalize the body encodings, strip out superfluous mime sections, etc.
This is good for disk storage and efficient mail processing, but really
bad for sa-learn.

Re: sa-learn with modified reply-to address

[br...@sptroth.com]

We are using Lotus Notes / Domino for sending the messages to the sa-host.

When a user is reporting a message as spam or ham, the recipient address
is modified to spam@sa-host.tld or ham@...  and then copied into the 
router mailbox from the domino server.
The Domino router then sends the message to the sa-host where postfix 
accept the message and 
put it into a Maildir driectory.

Here you can see a fragment of a message sent to the sa-host (before 
learning):

Return-Path: <co...@web2-in.hitbox.com>
X-Original-To: ham@sa-host.tld
Delivered-To: ham@sa-host.tld
Received: by mx1.maildomain.tld (Postfix, from userid 1001)
        id 4A2173108; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:45:35 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by mx1.maildomain.tld (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C8A310A
        for <ha...@sa-host.tld>; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:45:35 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mx1.maildomain.tld ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (domino2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP
 id 10778-05 for <ha...@sa-host.tld>;
 Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:45:33 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mx1.maildomain.tld (mx1.maildomain.tld [10.0.16.6])
        by mx1.maildomain.tld (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACBF30CF
        for <ha...@sa-host.tld>; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:45:33 +0200 (CEST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Thank You For Your Registration
From: no-reply@websidestory.com
Reply-To: WebSideStory <no...@websidestory.com>
Sender: user@maildomain.tld
To: ham@sa-host.tld
Cc:
Message-ID: 
<OF...@sptca.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:45:32 +0200
X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on RothDomino2/SPTINTERNET(Release 
7.0.1|January 17, 2006) at
 09/29/2006 11:27:12,
        Serialize by Router on RothDomino2/SPTINTERNET(Release 
7.0.1|January 17, 2006) at
 10/12/2006 07:45:33,
        Serialize complete at 10/12/2006 07:45:33
Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at maildomain.tld
...
...
...


Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net> wrote on 12.10.2006 11:22:21:

> bruno.delladucata@sptroth.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello All
> >
> > I would change or add the reply-to address to "misstakes@mydomain.tld"
> > of each message before learning.
> > This to prevent failures or misstakes while sending messages to the
> > sa-host.
> >
> > Can someone tell me if this method is suitable for the bayes database?
> 
> That in and of itself doesn't sound too bad.
> 
> However, I'm concerned about how you're "sending messages to the
> sa-host". Are you forwarding?
> 
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Bruno 
> 

Re: sa-learn with modified reply-to address

[Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>]

bruno.delladucata@sptroth.com wrote:
>
> Hello All
>
> I would change or add the reply-to address to "misstakes@mydomain.tld"
> of each message before learning.
> This to prevent failures or misstakes while sending messages to the
> sa-host.
>
> Can someone tell me if this method is suitable for the bayes database?

That in and of itself doesn't sound too bad.

However, I'm concerned about how you're "sending messages to the
sa-host". Are you forwarding?

>
>
> Thanks in advance
> Bruno