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Posted to users@activemq.apache.org by Michal Singer <Mi...@expand.com> on 2008/07/06 14:40:04 UTC
TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX activemq
does not work as i would expect
When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
TotalMessages
Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
Thanks
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Re: TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX activemq does not work as i would expect
Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.
On a queue - enqueue is the messages sent to a queue, messages is the
messages held by the broker, and dequeue is the messages consumed.
So what you're seeing looks correct
On 7 Jul 2008, at 07:22, Michal Singer wrote:
>
> Queues
>
> rajdavies wrote:
>>
>> are you using topics or queues ?
>>
>> On 7 Jul 2008, at 06:20, Michal Singer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What you explained is what i understood should be:
>>> so i would expect that if all messages are consumed by clients,
>>> that:
>>> TotalEnqueue=TotalMessages=TotalDequeue
>>>
>>> But this is not what i see as I mentioned before. (what i see is:
>>> TotalMessages+TotalDequeue=TotalEnqueue)
>>> I still don't understand why i don't get what you mentioned.
>>> Can you explain why?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> rajdavies wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The total messages should be the number of messages in the
>>>> broker at
>>>> that time,
>>>> the total enqueue count = the number of messages sent to the broker
>>>> the total dequeue count = the number of messages consumed by
>>>> clients
>>>>
>>>> though the behaviour is slightly different between queues and
>>>> topics
>>>> (e.g. enqueues get decremented for topics if messages expire - but
>>>> not
>>>> for queues)
>>>>
>>>> I'd like some feedback on what statistics people would like to see/
>>>> some more intuitive names etc ?
>>>>
>>>> On 7 Jul 2008, at 05:42, Michal Singer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using a snapshot of 5.2: apache-
>>>>> activemq-5.2-20080619.135742-2-
>>>>> bin
>>>>> Can you explain the meaning of these attributes and what they
>>>>> should
>>>>> hold,
>>>>> since i don't understand them.
>>>>> Thanks, Michal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> rajdavies wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 Jul 2008, at 13:40, Michal Singer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
>>>>>>> TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
>>>>>>> TotalMessages
>>>>>>> Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18301728.html
>>>>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at
>>>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which version of ActiveMQ are you using ? - the stats are
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>> are not intuitive - but this is something I'd like to sort out
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 5.2 release
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob Davies
>>>>>> 'Go further faster with Apache Camel!'
>>>>>> http://rajdavies.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Re: TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX
activemq does not work as i would expect
Posted by Michal Singer <Mi...@expand.com>.
Queues
rajdavies wrote:
>
> are you using topics or queues ?
>
> On 7 Jul 2008, at 06:20, Michal Singer wrote:
>
>>
>> What you explained is what i understood should be:
>> so i would expect that if all messages are consumed by clients, that:
>> TotalEnqueue=TotalMessages=TotalDequeue
>>
>> But this is not what i see as I mentioned before. (what i see is:
>> TotalMessages+TotalDequeue=TotalEnqueue)
>> I still don't understand why i don't get what you mentioned.
>> Can you explain why?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> rajdavies wrote:
>>>
>>> The total messages should be the number of messages in the broker at
>>> that time,
>>> the total enqueue count = the number of messages sent to the broker
>>> the total dequeue count = the number of messages consumed by clients
>>>
>>> though the behaviour is slightly different between queues and topics
>>> (e.g. enqueues get decremented for topics if messages expire - but
>>> not
>>> for queues)
>>>
>>> I'd like some feedback on what statistics people would like to see/
>>> some more intuitive names etc ?
>>>
>>> On 7 Jul 2008, at 05:42, Michal Singer wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am using a snapshot of 5.2: apache-activemq-5.2-20080619.135742-2-
>>>> bin
>>>> Can you explain the meaning of these attributes and what they should
>>>> hold,
>>>> since i don't understand them.
>>>> Thanks, Michal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> rajdavies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Jul 2008, at 13:40, Michal Singer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
>>>>>> TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
>>>>>> TotalMessages
>>>>>> Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18301728.html
>>>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Which version of ActiveMQ are you using ? - the stats are certainly
>>>>> are not intuitive - but this is something I'd like to sort out for
>>>>> the
>>>>> 5.2 release
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob Davies
>>>>> 'Go further faster with Apache Camel!'
>>>>> http://rajdavies.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX activemq does not work as i would expect
Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.
are you using topics or queues ?
On 7 Jul 2008, at 06:20, Michal Singer wrote:
>
> What you explained is what i understood should be:
> so i would expect that if all messages are consumed by clients, that:
> TotalEnqueue=TotalMessages=TotalDequeue
>
> But this is not what i see as I mentioned before. (what i see is:
> TotalMessages+TotalDequeue=TotalEnqueue)
> I still don't understand why i don't get what you mentioned.
> Can you explain why?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> rajdavies wrote:
>>
>> The total messages should be the number of messages in the broker at
>> that time,
>> the total enqueue count = the number of messages sent to the broker
>> the total dequeue count = the number of messages consumed by clients
>>
>> though the behaviour is slightly different between queues and topics
>> (e.g. enqueues get decremented for topics if messages expire - but
>> not
>> for queues)
>>
>> I'd like some feedback on what statistics people would like to see/
>> some more intuitive names etc ?
>>
>> On 7 Jul 2008, at 05:42, Michal Singer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am using a snapshot of 5.2: apache-activemq-5.2-20080619.135742-2-
>>> bin
>>> Can you explain the meaning of these attributes and what they should
>>> hold,
>>> since i don't understand them.
>>> Thanks, Michal
>>>
>>>
>>> rajdavies wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Jul 2008, at 13:40, Michal Singer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
>>>>> TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
>>>>>
>>>>> I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
>>>>> TotalMessages
>>>>> Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18301728.html
>>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which version of ActiveMQ are you using ? - the stats are certainly
>>>> are not intuitive - but this is something I'd like to sort out for
>>>> the
>>>> 5.2 release
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob Davies
>>>> 'Go further faster with Apache Camel!'
>>>> http://rajdavies.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18309951.html
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX
activemq does not work as i would expect
Posted by Michal Singer <Mi...@expand.com>.
What you explained is what i understood should be:
so i would expect that if all messages are consumed by clients, that:
TotalEnqueue=TotalMessages=TotalDequeue
But this is not what i see as I mentioned before. (what i see is:
TotalMessages+TotalDequeue=TotalEnqueue)
I still don't understand why i don't get what you mentioned.
Can you explain why?
Thanks
rajdavies wrote:
>
> The total messages should be the number of messages in the broker at
> that time,
> the total enqueue count = the number of messages sent to the broker
> the total dequeue count = the number of messages consumed by clients
>
> though the behaviour is slightly different between queues and topics
> (e.g. enqueues get decremented for topics if messages expire - but not
> for queues)
>
> I'd like some feedback on what statistics people would like to see/
> some more intuitive names etc ?
>
> On 7 Jul 2008, at 05:42, Michal Singer wrote:
>
>>
>> I am using a snapshot of 5.2: apache-activemq-5.2-20080619.135742-2-
>> bin
>> Can you explain the meaning of these attributes and what they should
>> hold,
>> since i don't understand them.
>> Thanks, Michal
>>
>>
>> rajdavies wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 Jul 2008, at 13:40, Michal Singer wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
>>>> TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
>>>>
>>>> I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
>>>> TotalMessages
>>>> Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18301728.html
>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which version of ActiveMQ are you using ? - the stats are certainly
>>> are not intuitive - but this is something I'd like to sort out for
>>> the
>>> 5.2 release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob Davies
>>> 'Go further faster with Apache Camel!'
>>> http://rajdavies.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
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>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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Re: TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX activemq does not work as i would expect
Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.
The total messages should be the number of messages in the broker at
that time,
the total enqueue count = the number of messages sent to the broker
the total dequeue count = the number of messages consumed by clients
though the behaviour is slightly different between queues and topics
(e.g. enqueues get decremented for topics if messages expire - but not
for queues)
I'd like some feedback on what statistics people would like to see/
some more intuitive names etc ?
On 7 Jul 2008, at 05:42, Michal Singer wrote:
>
> I am using a snapshot of 5.2: apache-activemq-5.2-20080619.135742-2-
> bin
> Can you explain the meaning of these attributes and what they should
> hold,
> since i don't understand them.
> Thanks, Michal
>
>
> rajdavies wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6 Jul 2008, at 13:40, Michal Singer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
>>> TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
>>>
>>> I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
>>> TotalMessages
>>> Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18301728.html
>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>> Which version of ActiveMQ are you using ? - the stats are certainly
>> are not intuitive - but this is something I'd like to sort out for
>> the
>> 5.2 release
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob Davies
>> 'Go further faster with Apache Camel!'
>> http://rajdavies.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX
activemq does not work as i would expect
Posted by Michal Singer <Mi...@expand.com>.
I am using a snapshot of 5.2: apache-activemq-5.2-20080619.135742-2-bin
Can you explain the meaning of these attributes and what they should hold,
since i don't understand them.
Thanks, Michal
rajdavies wrote:
>
>
> On 6 Jul 2008, at 13:40, Michal Singer wrote:
>
>>
>> When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
>> TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
>>
>> I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
>> TotalMessages
>> Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18301728.html
>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
> Which version of ActiveMQ are you using ? - the stats are certainly
> are not intuitive - but this is something I'd like to sort out for the
> 5.2 release
>
>
>
>
> Rob Davies
> 'Go further faster with Apache Camel!'
> http://rajdavies.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: TotalEnqueueCount,TotalDequeueCount,TotalMessages in JMX activemq does not work as i would expect
Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.
On 6 Jul 2008, at 13:40, Michal Singer wrote:
>
> When i observe the JMX activemq broker node: I see that
> TotalMessages + TotalDequeueCount = TotalEnqueueCount
>
> I would expect that the TotalEnqueueCount = TotalDequeueCount =
> TotalMessages
> Am i wrong? why is the first equation correct?
>
> Thanks
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/TotalEnqueueCount%2CTotalDequeueCount%2CTotalMessages-in-JMX-activemq-does-not-work-as-i-would-expect-tp18301728p18301728.html
> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Which version of ActiveMQ are you using ? - the stats are certainly
are not intuitive - but this is something I'd like to sort out for the
5.2 release
Rob Davies
'Go further faster with Apache Camel!'
http://rajdavies.blogspot.com/