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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com> on 2001/02/12 21:04:53 UTC
Here you have, ;o)
Hi:
Check This!
Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com>.
Hm.
Well, I'm gonna apologize for yelling at you. I lost my temper. Sorry.
At 02:56 AM 2/14/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com> wrote:
> >
> > WOW!
> >
> > What a rude little twit you are.
>
>Hear hear... Bah...
>
> > a) I didn't write the virus.
>
>Well, for sure, since it's around the net since quite some time...
>
> > b) A computer newby in my office used my computer to try to read the
> > message, because her netscape wouldn't open the thing; I was at home, sick.
>
>It's not my fault, to prevent further infestations I had to unsubscribe you
>from the lists, that creepy VBS is a son-of-a-bitch (not that I care, since
>I don't use Outlook and/or a Wintel machine anymore)
>
> > c) You seem to be a smug, cowardly little man.
>
>And you're the most polite person on this planet... Like if I _really_
>mailbombed you... Bah, when will people learn how to behave on mailing
>lists?
>
> > d) You certainly would behave that way to me, face-to-face, unless you were
> > a heavy drinker or drug user.
>
>Oh, ask to the kids who know me for real on the mailing list... I would have
>done the same even if the virus came from my roommate (Hi Fede :)
>
> > Unsubscribe me, whatever, stick it in your ear!
>
>You simply get rid of the virus and re-subscribe....
>
> > P.S., I live in Cookeville, TN. My office is 320 East Broad Street. I'm
> > there most days. Let's see your courage.
>
>Yeah, whatever, like I had time to get to the middle of nowhere... But if
>you want you are more than welcome to have some Lasagna (of course the best
>in the entire US since I do them myself, no frozen shit) in Sunnyvale :) :)
>
> Pier
>
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Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
Clay Atkins wrote:
>
> d) You certainly would behave that way to me, face-to-face, unless you were
> a heavy drinker or drug user.
>
This is one of those strange dichotomies of American society, that being
a 'heavy drinker' is homomorphic to 'drug user', but I guess 'drinker'
isn't, and I would assume in Tennessee, there is no adjective to put in
front of 'smoker' that would promote that particular addiction to the
same category of social unacceptability...
Just something that came to mind :)
geir
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Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>.
Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com> wrote:
>
> WOW!
>
> What a rude little twit you are.
Hear hear... Bah...
> a) I didn't write the virus.
Well, for sure, since it's around the net since quite some time...
> b) A computer newby in my office used my computer to try to read the
> message, because her netscape wouldn't open the thing; I was at home, sick.
It's not my fault, to prevent further infestations I had to unsubscribe you
from the lists, that creepy VBS is a son-of-a-bitch (not that I care, since
I don't use Outlook and/or a Wintel machine anymore)
> c) You seem to be a smug, cowardly little man.
And you're the most polite person on this planet... Like if I _really_
mailbombed you... Bah, when will people learn how to behave on mailing
lists?
> d) You certainly would behave that way to me, face-to-face, unless you were
> a heavy drinker or drug user.
Oh, ask to the kids who know me for real on the mailing list... I would have
done the same even if the virus came from my roommate (Hi Fede :)
> Unsubscribe me, whatever, stick it in your ear!
You simply get rid of the virus and re-subscribe....
> P.S., I live in Cookeville, TN. My office is 320 East Broad Street. I'm
> there most days. Let's see your courage.
Yeah, whatever, like I had time to get to the middle of nowhere... But if
you want you are more than welcome to have some Lasagna (of course the best
in the entire US since I do them myself, no frozen shit) in Sunnyvale :) :)
Pier
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Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by "A.T.Z." <ve...@atz.nl>.
>This is the 'Raising the Bar' approach : keep those virus writers
>challenged.... Since no one can see the source code, it makes it a fun
>game for both the virus writers and the users - kind of a digital
>pinata. The only question is who gets to swing the stick.
Since I cannot edit the M$ code my solution is a good one. Yes, M$ should
clean up their code.
Rather associate with notepad then to wait until the next .vbs comes out
and I need to wait until my favorati AV vendor solves it.
>True. But at this point, isn't this bordering on negligence?
If you don't run any AV software?? yep. This is also a stupid user problem.
Clicking on anything they see. A warning? M$ did learn you to click OK..
A few questions every user should ask:
- do I expect this to be send
- do I know this kind of attachment
- would I expect an attachment like this from this person
- is my AV software up to date
In case of doubt-->contact a sysadmin. Some of my customers contact me as
soon as they get something they don't trust.
There really is a job to do for sysadmins to keep their users informed.
Warn them, teach them to think twice before opening an attachment.
>I mean, you could argue that everyone was taken by 'surprise' at the
>Melissa outbreak, but isn't this the same problem again?
Yes it is the same. And Iloveyou and all the others. One thing, they all
use .VBS so I can capture them all with about 20 mouse clicks.
>geir
Bye,
B.
Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
"A.T.Z." wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> Just relax.
>
> Wanne know the solution to these VBS things flying around??
> It's so very very very easy, even costs you US$ 0,00
Man, I was hoping for a good riff on getting rid of the risky software
that exposes millions of users to millions of dollars in data and
opportunity loss from a company that doesn't seem terribly interested in
solving the problem on behalf of their clients....
Alas.
> Associate .vbs with notepad so it launched notepad whenever you (or anyone
> else) tries to open it.
>
> I would suggest doing the same thing with .js
This is the 'Raising the Bar' approach : keep those virus writers
challenged.... Since no one can see the source code, it makes it a fun
game for both the virus writers and the users - kind of a digital
pinata. The only question is who gets to swing the stick.
> I would also suggest you get yourself a decent (and recent) piece of
> antivirus software.
>
> No reason to bomb anyone who uses Outlook.. And most certainly no reason to
> bomb me.
> Remember: the person who double clicks the attachment has no wish to do you
> any harm.
True. But at this point, isn't this bordering on negligence?
"Sorry, I didn't know the gun was loaded."
"Ok. Just be careful next time."
<next time>
"Sorry, I didn't know the gun was loaded."
....
I mean, you could argue that everyone was taken by 'surprise' at the
Melissa outbreak, but isn't this the same problem again?
geir
> Bye,
>
> B.
>
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Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by "A.T.Z." <ve...@atz.nl>.
Hi friends,
Just relax.
Wanne know the solution to these VBS things flying around??
It's so very very very easy, even costs you US$ 0,00
Associate .vbs with notepad so it launched notepad whenever you (or anyone
else) tries to open it.
I would suggest doing the same thing with .js
I would also suggest you get yourself a decent (and recent) piece of
antivirus software.
No reason to bomb anyone who uses Outlook.. And most certainly no reason to
bomb me.
Remember: the person who double clicks the attachment has no wish to do you
any harm.
Bye,
B.
Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com>.
WOW!
What a rude little twit you are.
a) I didn't write the virus.
b) A computer newby in my office used my computer to try to read the
message, because her netscape wouldn't open the thing; I was at home, sick.
c) You seem to be a smug, cowardly little man.
d) You certainly would behave that way to me, face-to-face, unless you were
a heavy drinker or drug user.
Unsubscribe me, whatever, stick it in your ear!
P.S., I live in Cookeville, TN. My office is 320 East Broad Street. I'm
there most days. Let's see your courage.
At 12:22 PM 2/12/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> > Check This!
>
>DELETE THOSE TWO MESSAGES! THEY CONTAIN A VIRUS IN THE ATTACCHED VBS FILE.
>Clay Atkins has been already unsubscribed from ALL mailing lists, and I'll
>take care of mailbombing him privately later on today...
>
> Pier
>
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>The message was titled 'Here you have, ;o)'
>The message date was Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:04:53 -0600
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> Philip.Vincent@cambridge.simoco.com
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>/var/qmail/queue/split/0/659954_2MA-OCTET-STREAM_AnnaKournikova.jpg.vbs
> Found the VBS/SST virus !!!
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Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by Emiliano <pi...@tiscalinet.it>.
Clay Atkins wrote:
> Hi:
> Check This!
>
>
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Only a stupid OS like win can have problem for a vbscript like this ....
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Re: Here you have, ;o)
Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>.
Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com> wrote:
> Hi:
> Check This!
DELETE THOSE TWO MESSAGES! THEY CONTAIN A VIRUS IN THE ATTACCHED VBS FILE.
Clay Atkins has been already unsubscribed from ALL mailing lists, and I'll
take care of mailbombing him privately later on today...
Pier
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