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Posted to dev@mesos.apache.org by Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> on 2015/06/24 01:31:59 UTC
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
<https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under frameworks/
was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these frameworks.
However we seem to have reached the consensus that these unmaintained code
need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point was
reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove ec2/
folder as well.
Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and recreate
them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website will be
updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by similar
external projects.
--
Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <al...@mesosphere.io>
wrote:
> +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
>
> > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> >
> > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> /frameworks:
> > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> >
> > Anyone still uses them?
> >
> > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones under
> > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely on external
> > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they may have
> > already stopped working with the current versions of these programs.
> >
> > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there are folks
> who
> > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to host them
> > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> > --
> > Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
>
>
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Dave Lester <da...@davelester.org>.
Hi All,
This brings up a larger issue of governance around the mesos GitHub org;
how is this managed, and what is its relationship it has to the Apache
project. Concerns from members of the Apache community have previously
been expressed regarding this, and I'm hesitant to see us move portions
of the existing codebase to this non-Apache GH org without greater
clarity and addressing those concerns.
At the same time, I take your point that these are unmaintained and
should probably be moved elsewhere.
Dave
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015, at 04:31 PM, Yan Xu wrote:
> So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under frameworks/
> was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these frameworks.
>
> However we seem to have reached the consensus that these unmaintained
> code
> need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
> reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point was
> reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove ec2/
> folder as well.
>
> Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and
> recreate
> them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website will be
> updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by similar
> external projects.
>
> --
> Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas
> <al...@mesosphere.io>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> >
> > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> > >
> > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> > /frameworks:
> > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > >
> > > Anyone still uses them?
> > >
> > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones under
> > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely on external
> > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they may have
> > > already stopped working with the current versions of these programs.
> > >
> > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there are folks
> > who
> > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to host them
> > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > >
> > > Any comments?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> >
> >
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me>.
The cleanup has been committed:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-2640.
Jake,
Is it still against ASF policy if these frameworks are moved under
github.com/mesos but we make it very clear we are not taking contributions
to these repos and they are read-only? People can still fork them just like
they can fork github.com/apache/mesos but I don't think it's our intention
to block that right?
--
Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Marco Massenzio <ma...@mesosphere.io>
wrote:
> +1
> for deleting obsolete / unmaintained code
> (this is also a great courtesy to newbies who feel like they wasted time
> learning/reading code that they're then told is out-of-date)
>
> One of the great things about using git is that we can resurrect them (or
> parts thereof) at any time, should we wish to do so: where to "graveyard"
> them I would argue is sort of already implied here, and it's in this repo.
>
> Thanks for offering to do this!
>
> *Marco Massenzio*
> *Distributed Systems Engineer*
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Niklas Nielsen <ni...@mesosphere.io>
> wrote:
>
> > On 24 June 2015 at 10:55, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> >
> > > If we anticipated further development we wouldn't have proposed moving
> > them
> > > out. :)
> > > So I think it's safe to say that we are just looking for a graveyard
> for
> > > them. Do the policies still apply?
> > > That said, if they cannot be moved out, we should still just delete
> them
> > > and point to the commit in which they are deleted.
> > >
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Most of the discussions around this are on this thread. Relevant notes
> > from
> > > the community sync are in this google doc
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/153CUCj5LOJCFAVpdDZC7COJDwKh9RDjxaTA0S7lzwDA/edit
> > > >
> > > (June
> > > 4). It's not about ec2 maintenance as the scripts in this repo are not
> > > up-to-date and and people have created ec2 tools not based on these
> > > scripts. (See this
> > > <
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/201505.mbox/%3CCAK8jAgMtmdeTskCKQmwatYAB3DMAUTSXo5p+6p2F2S2k-zTArw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> > > >
> > > .)
> > >
> > > Yan
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > (infra hat on) This can not be just shifted to a random github org
> and
> > > > still be maintained under the Apache Mesos project. All commits must
> > > occur
> > > > to Apache hardware before going to any mirrors such as github, which
> > > > currently does not support anything not under the Apache github org.
> > > >
> > > > (Mesos hat back on) Sorry I missed the last sync up, I did not see
> any
> > > > notes from this brought back to the dev list. If there is a need for
> > > > maintainers for the ec2 section of the code base I would be happy to
> > step
> > > > in and help either rework to cloudformation or answer any outstanding
> > > > questions
> > > >
> > > > -Jake
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Erik Weathers <
> eweathers@groupon.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Please maintain the git history for the files when you move them.
> > They
> > > > > should not all appear to have been born into the new repos...
> > > > >
> > > > > - Erik
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> > > > > > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under
> > > > frameworks/
> > > > > > was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these
> > > > frameworks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However we seem to have reached the consensus that these
> > unmaintained
> > > > > code
> > > > > > need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions
> /
> > > > > > reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This
> point
> > > was
> > > > > > reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to
> remove
> > > ec2/
> > > > > > folder as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and
> > > > > recreate
> > > > > > them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by
> > similar
> > > > > > external projects.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <
> > > > > alexander@mesosphere.io
> > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase
> under
> > > > > > > /frameworks:
> > > > > > > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > > > > > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyone still uses them?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the
> ones
> > > > under
> > > > > > > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely
> > on
> > > > > > external
> > > > > > > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they
> > may
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > already stopped working with the current versions of these
> > > > programs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there
> > are
> > > > > folks
> > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place
> to
> > > > host
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any comments?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Marco Massenzio <ma...@mesosphere.io>.
+1
for deleting obsolete / unmaintained code
(this is also a great courtesy to newbies who feel like they wasted time
learning/reading code that they're then told is out-of-date)
One of the great things about using git is that we can resurrect them (or
parts thereof) at any time, should we wish to do so: where to "graveyard"
them I would argue is sort of already implied here, and it's in this repo.
Thanks for offering to do this!
*Marco Massenzio*
*Distributed Systems Engineer*
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Niklas Nielsen <ni...@mesosphere.io>
wrote:
> On 24 June 2015 at 10:55, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
>
> > If we anticipated further development we wouldn't have proposed moving
> them
> > out. :)
> > So I think it's safe to say that we are just looking for a graveyard for
> > them. Do the policies still apply?
> > That said, if they cannot be moved out, we should still just delete them
> > and point to the commit in which they are deleted.
> >
>
> +1
>
>
> >
> > Most of the discussions around this are on this thread. Relevant notes
> from
> > the community sync are in this google doc
> > <
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/153CUCj5LOJCFAVpdDZC7COJDwKh9RDjxaTA0S7lzwDA/edit
> > >
> > (June
> > 4). It's not about ec2 maintenance as the scripts in this repo are not
> > up-to-date and and people have created ec2 tools not based on these
> > scripts. (See this
> > <
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/201505.mbox/%3CCAK8jAgMtmdeTskCKQmwatYAB3DMAUTSXo5p+6p2F2S2k-zTArw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> > >
> > .)
> >
> > Yan
> >
> > --
> > Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > (infra hat on) This can not be just shifted to a random github org and
> > > still be maintained under the Apache Mesos project. All commits must
> > occur
> > > to Apache hardware before going to any mirrors such as github, which
> > > currently does not support anything not under the Apache github org.
> > >
> > > (Mesos hat back on) Sorry I missed the last sync up, I did not see any
> > > notes from this brought back to the dev list. If there is a need for
> > > maintainers for the ec2 section of the code base I would be happy to
> step
> > > in and help either rework to cloudformation or answer any outstanding
> > > questions
> > >
> > > -Jake
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Please maintain the git history for the files when you move them.
> They
> > > > should not all appear to have been born into the new repos...
> > > >
> > > > - Erik
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> > > > > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under
> > > frameworks/
> > > > > was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these
> > > frameworks.
> > > > >
> > > > > However we seem to have reached the consensus that these
> unmaintained
> > > > code
> > > > > need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
> > > > > reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point
> > was
> > > > > reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove
> > ec2/
> > > > > folder as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and
> > > > recreate
> > > > > them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website
> will
> > > be
> > > > > updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by
> similar
> > > > > external projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <
> > > > alexander@mesosphere.io
> > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> > > > > > /frameworks:
> > > > > > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > > > > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone still uses them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones
> > > under
> > > > > > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely
> on
> > > > > external
> > > > > > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they
> may
> > > have
> > > > > > > already stopped working with the current versions of these
> > > programs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there
> are
> > > > folks
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to
> > > host
> > > > > them
> > > > > > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any comments?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Niklas Nielsen <ni...@mesosphere.io>.
On 24 June 2015 at 10:55, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> If we anticipated further development we wouldn't have proposed moving them
> out. :)
> So I think it's safe to say that we are just looking for a graveyard for
> them. Do the policies still apply?
> That said, if they cannot be moved out, we should still just delete them
> and point to the commit in which they are deleted.
>
+1
>
> Most of the discussions around this are on this thread. Relevant notes from
> the community sync are in this google doc
> <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/153CUCj5LOJCFAVpdDZC7COJDwKh9RDjxaTA0S7lzwDA/edit
> >
> (June
> 4). It's not about ec2 maintenance as the scripts in this repo are not
> up-to-date and and people have created ec2 tools not based on these
> scripts. (See this
> <
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/201505.mbox/%3CCAK8jAgMtmdeTskCKQmwatYAB3DMAUTSXo5p+6p2F2S2k-zTArw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> .)
>
> Yan
>
> --
> Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > (infra hat on) This can not be just shifted to a random github org and
> > still be maintained under the Apache Mesos project. All commits must
> occur
> > to Apache hardware before going to any mirrors such as github, which
> > currently does not support anything not under the Apache github org.
> >
> > (Mesos hat back on) Sorry I missed the last sync up, I did not see any
> > notes from this brought back to the dev list. If there is a need for
> > maintainers for the ec2 section of the code base I would be happy to step
> > in and help either rework to cloudformation or answer any outstanding
> > questions
> >
> > -Jake
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Please maintain the git history for the files when you move them. They
> > > should not all appear to have been born into the new repos...
> > >
> > > - Erik
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> > > > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under
> > frameworks/
> > > > was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these
> > frameworks.
> > > >
> > > > However we seem to have reached the consensus that these unmaintained
> > > code
> > > > need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
> > > > reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point
> was
> > > > reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove
> ec2/
> > > > folder as well.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and
> > > recreate
> > > > them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website will
> > be
> > > > updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by similar
> > > > external projects.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <
> > > alexander@mesosphere.io
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> > > > > /frameworks:
> > > > > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > > > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone still uses them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones
> > under
> > > > > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely on
> > > > external
> > > > > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they may
> > have
> > > > > > already stopped working with the current versions of these
> > programs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there are
> > > folks
> > > > > who
> > > > > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to
> > host
> > > > them
> > > > > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any comments?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me>.
If we anticipated further development we wouldn't have proposed moving them
out. :)
So I think it's safe to say that we are just looking for a graveyard for
them. Do the policies still apply?
That said, if they cannot be moved out, we should still just delete them
and point to the commit in which they are deleted.
Most of the discussions around this are on this thread. Relevant notes from
the community sync are in this google doc
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/153CUCj5LOJCFAVpdDZC7COJDwKh9RDjxaTA0S7lzwDA/edit>
(June
4). It's not about ec2 maintenance as the scripts in this repo are not
up-to-date and and people have created ec2 tools not based on these
scripts. (See this
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/201505.mbox/%3CCAK8jAgMtmdeTskCKQmwatYAB3DMAUTSXo5p+6p2F2S2k-zTArw@mail.gmail.com%3E>
.)
Yan
--
Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org> wrote:
> (infra hat on) This can not be just shifted to a random github org and
> still be maintained under the Apache Mesos project. All commits must occur
> to Apache hardware before going to any mirrors such as github, which
> currently does not support anything not under the Apache github org.
>
> (Mesos hat back on) Sorry I missed the last sync up, I did not see any
> notes from this brought back to the dev list. If there is a need for
> maintainers for the ec2 section of the code base I would be happy to step
> in and help either rework to cloudformation or answer any outstanding
> questions
>
> -Jake
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Please maintain the git history for the files when you move them. They
> > should not all appear to have been born into the new repos...
> >
> > - Erik
> >
> > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> >
> > > So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> > > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under
> frameworks/
> > > was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these
> frameworks.
> > >
> > > However we seem to have reached the consensus that these unmaintained
> > code
> > > need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
> > > reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point was
> > > reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove ec2/
> > > folder as well.
> > >
> > > Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and
> > recreate
> > > them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website will
> be
> > > updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by similar
> > > external projects.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <
> > alexander@mesosphere.io
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> > > >
> > > > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> > > > /frameworks:
> > > > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone still uses them?
> > > > >
> > > > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones
> under
> > > > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely on
> > > external
> > > > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they may
> have
> > > > > already stopped working with the current versions of these
> programs.
> > > > >
> > > > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there are
> > folks
> > > > who
> > > > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to
> host
> > > them
> > > > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > > > >
> > > > > Any comments?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>.
(infra hat on) This can not be just shifted to a random github org and
still be maintained under the Apache Mesos project. All commits must occur
to Apache hardware before going to any mirrors such as github, which
currently does not support anything not under the Apache github org.
(Mesos hat back on) Sorry I missed the last sync up, I did not see any
notes from this brought back to the dev list. If there is a need for
maintainers for the ec2 section of the code base I would be happy to step
in and help either rework to cloudformation or answer any outstanding
questions
-Jake
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com>
wrote:
> Please maintain the git history for the files when you move them. They
> should not all appear to have been born into the new repos...
>
> - Erik
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
>
> > So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under frameworks/
> > was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these frameworks.
> >
> > However we seem to have reached the consensus that these unmaintained
> code
> > need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
> > reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point was
> > reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove ec2/
> > folder as well.
> >
> > Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and
> recreate
> > them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website will be
> > updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by similar
> > external projects.
> >
> > --
> > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <
> alexander@mesosphere.io
> > <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> > >
> > > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> > > /frameworks:
> > > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > > >
> > > > Anyone still uses them?
> > > >
> > > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones under
> > > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely on
> > external
> > > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they may have
> > > > already stopped working with the current versions of these programs.
> > > >
> > > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there are
> folks
> > > who
> > > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to host
> > them
> > > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > > >
> > > > Any comments?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> > http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com>.
Please maintain the git history for the files when you move them. They
should not all appear to have been born into the new repos...
- Erik
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under frameworks/
> was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these frameworks.
>
> However we seem to have reached the consensus that these unmaintained code
> need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
> reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point was
> reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove ec2/
> folder as well.
>
> Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and recreate
> them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website will be
> updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by similar
> external projects.
>
> --
> Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> http://twitter.com/xujyan>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <alexander@mesosphere.io
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> >
> > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> > /frameworks:
> > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > >
> > > Anyone still uses them?
> > >
> > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones under
> > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely on
> external
> > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they may have
> > > already stopped working with the current versions of these programs.
> > >
> > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there are folks
> > who
> > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to host
> them
> > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > >
> > > Any comments?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jiang Yan Xu <yan@jxu.me <javascript:;>> @xujyan <
> http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> >
> >
>
Re: Regarding old frameworks in Mesos repository
Posted by Adam Bordelon <ad...@mesosphere.io>.
+1!
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> So I'd like to resurface this topic. The last attempt
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/33090/> to remove things under frameworks/
> was put off because scripts under ec2/ still reference these frameworks.
>
> However we seem to have reached the consensus that these unmaintained code
> need to be moved out to avoid confusion (People asking questions /
> reporting errors for things we don't maintain anymore). This point was
> reiterated during our last community sync and we decided to remove ec2/
> folder as well.
>
> Therefore, if there's no objection, I will delete these files and recreate
> them as individual projects under github.com/mesos. Our website will be
> updated with the links to them either deleted or replaced by similar
> external projects.
>
> --
> Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Rojas <al...@mesosphere.io>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 If they are not maintain they should be somewhere else.
> >
> > > On 06 Apr 2015, at 21:10, Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> wrote:
> > >
> > > There exist a couple of frameworks in the Mesos codebase under
> > /frameworks:
> > > deploy_jar haproxy+apache mesos-submit torque
> > > (See https://github.com/apache/mesos/tree/master/frameworks)
> > >
> > > Anyone still uses them?
> > >
> > > These frameworks are not trivial implementations like the ones under
> > > src/examples to demonstrate/test Mesos features and they rely on
> external
> > > programs to run. Since we don't actively maintain them, they may have
> > > already stopped working with the current versions of these programs.
> > >
> > > We'd like to remove these from the Mesos repository. If there are folks
> > who
> > > still use them and would like to contribute, the ideal place to host
> them
> > > is in their own repos. e.g., https://github.com/mesos/hadoop
> > >
> > > Any comments?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jiang Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan>
> >
> >
>