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newbie need help to configure svn

Dear list,
Hello to all of you.
I have come to this list to fine tune my svn server.

I have installed svn recently on a linux ( clark connect ) server

svn, version 1.4.6 (r28521)
compiled Dec 31 2007, 15:01:44

There is no problem to use the svn server by svn: and https:

One thing is still missing here :-(
If some one changes and commits a single file it changes the entire
revision of the repository.
But what I am looking for is committing a file will only change the
version of that file as well as show the version number also of that
file and it should not increment the version number of the entire project.
How can I get this ?
Please suggest
Thanks

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Re: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 04:50, J. Bakshi <jo...@infoservices.in> wrote:
> Dear list,
> Hello to all of you.
> I have come to this list to fine tune my svn server.
>
> I have installed svn recently on a linux ( clark connect ) server
>
> svn, version 1.4.6 (r28521)
> compiled Dec 31 2007, 15:01:44
>
> There is no problem to use the svn server by svn: and https:
>
> One thing is still missing here :-(
> If some one changes and commits a single file it changes the entire
> revision of the repository.
> But what I am looking for is committing a file will only change the
> version of that file as well as show the version number also of that
> file and it should not increment the version number of the entire project.
> How can I get this ?

Short answer: by not using Subversion.

Subversion uses a global revision number. Think of it as a timestamp.
The repository revision is X. Each file has a "last changed" revision
which is the repository revision where that file last changed. This is
explained in chapter 1 of the manual.
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.basic.in-action.html#svn.basic.in-action.revs

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Re: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 00:26, J. Bakshi <jo...@infoservices.in> wrote:
> Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
>> Hi Bakshi,
>>
>> Think of the revision as an implicit tag. So every time you commit you
>> get a new tag created.
>>
>> The equivalent of revision per file in cvs does not exist in svn, but
>> with experience you will find that it is not important to have a
>> sequentially incrementing revision number for every file.
>>
>> What is important is the ability to trace the file to the last commit
>> (change) which is adequately provided in svn using the global revision
>> number.
>>
>
> Hello Andy and Lakshman,
>
> Thanks a lot for your explanation and response. The problem I am facing
> is really make me very nervous.
>
> Say there are total 3 projects in a repository. If you change any file
> in a particular project it actually changes the version of the
> repository. So I am in search for a way where it treats the project
> individually. Could you please enlighten me in this direction ?

3 options, in decreasing order of desirability (for me, anyway)

1) Don't get hung up on it and go forward
2) Separate repositories for each project
3) Use another VCS that meets your requirement

Re: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>.
On Jan 6, 2009, at 09:08, Geir Engebakken wrote:

> we were facing the same situation when we migrated to SVN last  
> fall, but we ended up with one repository for all our 100+ projects  
> since the recommendation from SVN manual is to have common projects  
> stored within the same repos for easier admin amon other things.  
> Now that time goes by we see the revision number increasing  
> rapidly, today 18000+ and still we have the big conversions to  
> come. (And we convert our existing SCM projects with all revision  
> info for each file so there are quite a number of revisions to come!)
>
> We are therefor looking at splitting this repos into smaller repos  
> with chunks of projects so that we dont get one large multi-gig  
> multi-million revision repos, but we are not quite confident about  
> the way to og yet. A problem with many projects is the duplication  
> of hook scripts, but that can be solved by using symbolic links in  
> Linux as we have tried out.

The only reason you gave for wanting to split your repository is to  
avoid large revision numbers, but I would not consider that a valid  
reason for making such a drastic change. What problem do large  
revision numbers pose for you?

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RE: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by Geir Engebakken <ge...@edb.com>.
we were facing the same situation when we migrated to SVN last fall, but we ended up with one repository for all our 100+ projects since the recommendation from SVN manual is to have common projects stored within the same repos for easier admin amon other things. Now that time goes by we see the revision number increasing rapidly, today 18000+ and still we have the big conversions to come. (And we convert our existing SCM projects with all revision info for each file so there are quite a number of revisions to come!)

We are therefor looking at splitting this repos into smaller repos with chunks of projects so that we dont get one large multi-gig multi-million revision repos, but we are not quite confident about the way to og yet. A problem with many projects is the duplication of hook scripts, but that can be solved by using symbolic links in Linux as we have tried out.



Geir

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in] 
Sent: 6. januar 2009 07:37
To: Srilakshmanan, Lakshman
Cc: andy.levy@gmail.com; users@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Re: newbie need help to configure svn

Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> Hi Bakshi,
>
> I have always (cvs/svn) implemented each project in its own repository.
>   

Thanks a lot
have a nice time

> Thanks
> Lakshman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in]
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 4:27 PM
> To: Srilakshmanan, Lakshman; andy.levy@gmail.com
> Cc: users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: newbie need help to configure svn
>
> Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
>   
>> Hi Bakshi,
>>
>> Think of the revision as an implicit tag. So every time you commit 
>> you
>>     
>
>   
>> get a new tag created.
>>
>> The equivalent of revision per file in cvs does not exist in svn, but 
>> with experience you will find that it is not important to have a 
>> sequentially incrementing revision number for every file.
>>
>> What is important is the ability to trace the file to the last commit
>> (change) which is adequately provided in svn using the global 
>> revision
>>     
>
>   
>> number.
>>   
>>     
>
> Hello Andy and Lakshman,
>
> Thanks a lot for your explanation and response. The problem I am 
> facing is really make me very nervous.
>
> Say there are total 3 projects in a repository. If you change any file 
> in a particular project it actually changes the version of the 
> repository. So I am in search for a way where it treats the project 
> individually. Could you please enlighten me in this direction ?
>
> Thanks
>
>   
>> Thanks
>> Lakshman
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in]
>> Sent: Monday, 5 January 2009 8:50 PM
>> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
>> Subject: newbie need help to configure svn
>>
>> Dear list,
>> Hello to all of you.
>> I have come to this list to fine tune my svn server.
>>
>> I have installed svn recently on a linux ( clark connect ) server
>>
>> svn, version 1.4.6 (r28521)
>> compiled Dec 31 2007, 15:01:44
>>
>> There is no problem to use the svn server by svn: and https:
>>
>> One thing is still missing here :-(
>> If some one changes and commits a single file it changes the entire 
>> revision of the repository.
>> But what I am looking for is committing a file will only change the 
>> version of that file as well as show the version number also of that 
>> file and it should not increment the version number of the entire 
>> project.
>> How can I get this ?
>> Please suggest
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by "J. Bakshi" <jo...@infoservices.in>.
Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> Hi Bakshi,
>
> I have always (cvs/svn) implemented each project in its own repository.
>   

Thanks a lot
have a nice time

> Thanks
> Lakshman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 4:27 PM
> To: Srilakshmanan, Lakshman; andy.levy@gmail.com
> Cc: users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: newbie need help to configure svn
>
> Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
>   
>> Hi Bakshi,
>>
>> Think of the revision as an implicit tag. So every time you commit you
>>     
>
>   
>> get a new tag created.
>>
>> The equivalent of revision per file in cvs does not exist in svn, but 
>> with experience you will find that it is not important to have a 
>> sequentially incrementing revision number for every file.
>>
>> What is important is the ability to trace the file to the last commit
>> (change) which is adequately provided in svn using the global revision
>>     
>
>   
>> number.
>>   
>>     
>
> Hello Andy and Lakshman,
>
> Thanks a lot for your explanation and response. The problem I am facing
> is really make me very nervous.
>
> Say there are total 3 projects in a repository. If you change any file
> in a particular project it actually changes the version of the
> repository. So I am in search for a way where it treats the project
> individually. Could you please enlighten me in this direction ?
>
> Thanks
>
>   
>> Thanks
>> Lakshman
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in]
>> Sent: Monday, 5 January 2009 8:50 PM
>> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
>> Subject: newbie need help to configure svn
>>
>> Dear list,
>> Hello to all of you.
>> I have come to this list to fine tune my svn server.
>>
>> I have installed svn recently on a linux ( clark connect ) server
>>
>> svn, version 1.4.6 (r28521)
>> compiled Dec 31 2007, 15:01:44
>>
>> There is no problem to use the svn server by svn: and https:
>>
>> One thing is still missing here :-(
>> If some one changes and commits a single file it changes the entire 
>> revision of the repository.
>> But what I am looking for is committing a file will only change the 
>> version of that file as well as show the version number also of that 
>> file and it should not increment the version number of the entire 
>> project.
>> How can I get this ?
>> Please suggest
>> Thanks
>>
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RE: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by "Srilakshmanan, Lakshman" <la...@police.vic.gov.au>.
Hi Bakshi,

I have always (cvs/svn) implemented each project in its own repository.

Thanks
Lakshman
-----Original Message-----
From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in] 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 4:27 PM
To: Srilakshmanan, Lakshman; andy.levy@gmail.com
Cc: users@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Re: newbie need help to configure svn

Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> Hi Bakshi,
>
> Think of the revision as an implicit tag. So every time you commit you

> get a new tag created.
>
> The equivalent of revision per file in cvs does not exist in svn, but 
> with experience you will find that it is not important to have a 
> sequentially incrementing revision number for every file.
>
> What is important is the ability to trace the file to the last commit
> (change) which is adequately provided in svn using the global revision

> number.
>   

Hello Andy and Lakshman,

Thanks a lot for your explanation and response. The problem I am facing
is really make me very nervous.

Say there are total 3 projects in a repository. If you change any file
in a particular project it actually changes the version of the
repository. So I am in search for a way where it treats the project
individually. Could you please enlighten me in this direction ?

Thanks

> Thanks
> Lakshman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in]
> Sent: Monday, 5 January 2009 8:50 PM
> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: newbie need help to configure svn
>
> Dear list,
> Hello to all of you.
> I have come to this list to fine tune my svn server.
>
> I have installed svn recently on a linux ( clark connect ) server
>
> svn, version 1.4.6 (r28521)
> compiled Dec 31 2007, 15:01:44
>
> There is no problem to use the svn server by svn: and https:
>
> One thing is still missing here :-(
> If some one changes and commits a single file it changes the entire 
> revision of the repository.
> But what I am looking for is committing a file will only change the 
> version of that file as well as show the version number also of that 
> file and it should not increment the version number of the entire 
> project.
> How can I get this ?
> Please suggest
> Thanks
>
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Re: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by "J. Bakshi" <jo...@infoservices.in>.
Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> Hi Bakshi,
>
> Think of the revision as an implicit tag. So every time you commit you
> get a new tag created.
>
> The equivalent of revision per file in cvs does not exist in svn, but
> with experience you will find that it is not important to have a
> sequentially incrementing revision number for every file.
>
> What is important is the ability to trace the file to the last commit
> (change) which is adequately provided in svn using the global revision
> number.
>   

Hello Andy and Lakshman,

Thanks a lot for your explanation and response. The problem I am facing
is really make me very nervous.

Say there are total 3 projects in a repository. If you change any file
in a particular project it actually changes the version of the
repository. So I am in search for a way where it treats the project
individually. Could you please enlighten me in this direction ?

Thanks

> Thanks
> Lakshman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in] 
> Sent: Monday, 5 January 2009 8:50 PM
> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: newbie need help to configure svn
>
> Dear list,
> Hello to all of you.
> I have come to this list to fine tune my svn server.
>
> I have installed svn recently on a linux ( clark connect ) server
>
> svn, version 1.4.6 (r28521)
> compiled Dec 31 2007, 15:01:44
>
> There is no problem to use the svn server by svn: and https:
>
> One thing is still missing here :-(
> If some one changes and commits a single file it changes the entire
> revision of the repository.
> But what I am looking for is committing a file will only change the
> version of that file as well as show the version number also of that
> file and it should not increment the version number of the entire
> project.
> How can I get this ?
> Please suggest
> Thanks
>
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RE: newbie need help to configure svn

Posted by "Srilakshmanan, Lakshman" <la...@police.vic.gov.au>.
Hi Bakshi,

Think of the revision as an implicit tag. So every time you commit you
get a new tag created.

The equivalent of revision per file in cvs does not exist in svn, but
with experience you will find that it is not important to have a
sequentially incrementing revision number for every file.

What is important is the ability to trace the file to the last commit
(change) which is adequately provided in svn using the global revision
number.

Thanks
Lakshman
-----Original Message-----
From: J. Bakshi [mailto:joydeep@infoservices.in] 
Sent: Monday, 5 January 2009 8:50 PM
To: users@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: newbie need help to configure svn

Dear list,
Hello to all of you.
I have come to this list to fine tune my svn server.

I have installed svn recently on a linux ( clark connect ) server

svn, version 1.4.6 (r28521)
compiled Dec 31 2007, 15:01:44

There is no problem to use the svn server by svn: and https:

One thing is still missing here :-(
If some one changes and commits a single file it changes the entire
revision of the repository.
But what I am looking for is committing a file will only change the
version of that file as well as show the version number also of that
file and it should not increment the version number of the entire
project.
How can I get this ?
Please suggest
Thanks

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