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Posted to dev@ponymail.apache.org by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> on 2018/02/09 10:03:58 UTC

[VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!

This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.

The tree can be inspected at
https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8

The release candidate is available at:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/

Specifically, this is a vote on
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
(md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).

Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:

[ ] +1: Good to go
[ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
[ ] -1: Don't release because....

Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
possible votes have been cast).

With regards,
Daniel.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 9 February 2018 at 15:05, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> These are the sigs for the vote:
> MD5: 065197e47fc8854d030b1a67104a827b
> SHA256: d1d09334b6890e76733f8a3996ce573a4b3609582c0298a7912df969f4799b79

Thanks.

> It's all in version control, so you can correlate the vote if need be.

I don't think that's true, because the URL is not immutable.

If the historian only has the released artefact and its hashes, they
cannot trace back to the dist/dev/ repo entry.

> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
> On 02/09/2018 04:00 PM, sebb wrote:
>> On 9 February 2018 at 13:52, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2018 12:38 PM, sebb wrote:
>>>> On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>>>>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tree can be inspected at
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>>>>
>>>>> The release candidate is available at:
>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>>>>>
>>>>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>>>>> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>>>>
>>>> The above URL is mutable (indeed will be removed at some point) so it
>>>> would be helpful to include the contents of at least one of the hashes
>>>> in the vote mail.
>>>> Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact.
>>
>> "Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact."
>> should be
>> "Otherwise it won't be possible to follow the provenance of the artefact."
>>
>> The above still applies.
>>
>>>> Also, why is the file compressed using xz?
>>>> That is a relatively unknown/new format and is unlikely to be
>>>> available on all systems.
>>>>
>>>> By all means provide that as well, but I think sources should be
>>>> provided as gzip and zip for maximum usability.
>>>
>>> xzip (LZMA) has been core in GNU for almost a decade now, and is
>>> preferred to gzip by modern applications (it is what you would use for
>>> distro packages on freebsd and most linux distros).
>>>
>>> It works on Mac as well as Windows (through 7zip), and achieves better
>>> compression than traditional gzip.
>>
>> Both Mac and Windows require 3rd party apps to open the format.
>>
>> The compression ratio is irrelevant here, because the file is small (ca. 1MB)
>>
>>> IOW, there is no barrier to opening this file for our users that
>>> wouldn't exist with gzip.
>>
>> That is not the case with xz which currently appears to be native only to Linux.
>>
>> Most projects provide zip and tar.gz one or both of which can be
>> opened on Linux, macOS and Windows *without* needing to install a 3rd
>> party app.
>>
>> Yes, they will be a bit bigger, but the formats are much more widely supported.
>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -1 because of the above
>>>>
>>>> I've not checked the contents yet.
>>>>
>>>>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>>>>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>>>>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>>>>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>>>>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>>>>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>>>>> possible votes have been cast).
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>
>>>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.

These are the sigs for the vote:
MD5: 065197e47fc8854d030b1a67104a827b
SHA256: d1d09334b6890e76733f8a3996ce573a4b3609582c0298a7912df969f4799b79

It's all in version control, so you can correlate the vote if need be.

With regards,
Daniel.

On 02/09/2018 04:00 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 9 February 2018 at 13:52, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 02/09/2018 12:38 PM, sebb wrote:
>>> On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>>>
>>>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>>>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>>>
>>>> The tree can be inspected at
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>>>
>>>> The release candidate is available at:
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>>>> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>>>
>>> The above URL is mutable (indeed will be removed at some point) so it
>>> would be helpful to include the contents of at least one of the hashes
>>> in the vote mail.
>>> Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact.
> 
> "Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact."
> should be
> "Otherwise it won't be possible to follow the provenance of the artefact."
> 
> The above still applies.
> 
>>> Also, why is the file compressed using xz?
>>> That is a relatively unknown/new format and is unlikely to be
>>> available on all systems.
>>>
>>> By all means provide that as well, but I think sources should be
>>> provided as gzip and zip for maximum usability.
>>
>> xzip (LZMA) has been core in GNU for almost a decade now, and is
>> preferred to gzip by modern applications (it is what you would use for
>> distro packages on freebsd and most linux distros).
>>
>> It works on Mac as well as Windows (through 7zip), and achieves better
>> compression than traditional gzip.
> 
> Both Mac and Windows require 3rd party apps to open the format.
> 
> The compression ratio is irrelevant here, because the file is small (ca. 1MB)
> 
>> IOW, there is no barrier to opening this file for our users that
>> wouldn't exist with gzip.
> 
> That is not the case with xz which currently appears to be native only to Linux.
> 
> Most projects provide zip and tar.gz one or both of which can be
> opened on Linux, macOS and Windows *without* needing to install a 3rd
> party app.
> 
> Yes, they will be a bit bigger, but the formats are much more widely supported.
> 
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>>>
>>> -1 because of the above
>>>
>>> I've not checked the contents yet.
>>>
>>>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>>>
>>>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>>>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>>>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>>>
>>>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>>>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>>>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>>>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>>>> possible votes have been cast).
>>>>
>>>> With regards,
>>>> Daniel.
>>>>
>>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 9 February 2018 at 13:52, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 02/09/2018 12:38 PM, sebb wrote:
>> On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>>
>>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>>
>>> The tree can be inspected at
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>>
>>> The release candidate is available at:
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>>>
>>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>>> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>>
>> The above URL is mutable (indeed will be removed at some point) so it
>> would be helpful to include the contents of at least one of the hashes
>> in the vote mail.
>> Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact.

"Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact."
should be
"Otherwise it won't be possible to follow the provenance of the artefact."

The above still applies.

>> Also, why is the file compressed using xz?
>> That is a relatively unknown/new format and is unlikely to be
>> available on all systems.
>>
>> By all means provide that as well, but I think sources should be
>> provided as gzip and zip for maximum usability.
>
> xzip (LZMA) has been core in GNU for almost a decade now, and is
> preferred to gzip by modern applications (it is what you would use for
> distro packages on freebsd and most linux distros).
>
> It works on Mac as well as Windows (through 7zip), and achieves better
> compression than traditional gzip.

Both Mac and Windows require 3rd party apps to open the format.

The compression ratio is irrelevant here, because the file is small (ca. 1MB)

> IOW, there is no barrier to opening this file for our users that
> wouldn't exist with gzip.

That is not the case with xz which currently appears to be native only to Linux.

Most projects provide zip and tar.gz one or both of which can be
opened on Linux, macOS and Windows *without* needing to install a 3rd
party app.

Yes, they will be a bit bigger, but the formats are much more widely supported.

> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>>
>> -1 because of the above
>>
>> I've not checked the contents yet.
>>
>>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>>
>>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>>
>>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>>> possible votes have been cast).
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.

On 02/09/2018 12:38 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>
>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>
>> The tree can be inspected at
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>
>> The release candidate is available at:
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>>
>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
> 
> The above URL is mutable (indeed will be removed at some point) so it
> would be helpful to include the contents of at least one of the hashes
> in the vote mail.
> Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact.
> 
> Also, why is the file compressed using xz?
> That is a relatively unknown/new format and is unlikely to be
> available on all systems.
> 
> By all means provide that as well, but I think sources should be
> provided as gzip and zip for maximum usability.

xzip (LZMA) has been core in GNU for almost a decade now, and is
preferred to gzip by modern applications (it is what you would use for
distro packages on freebsd and most linux distros).

It works on Mac as well as Windows (through 7zip), and achieves better
compression than traditional gzip.

IOW, there is no barrier to opening this file for our users that
wouldn't exist with gzip.

With regards,
Daniel.

> 
> -1 because of the above
> 
> I've not checked the contents yet.
> 
>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>
>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>
>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>> possible votes have been cast).
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>
> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>
> The tree can be inspected at
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>
> The release candidate is available at:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>
> Specifically, this is a vote on
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).

The above URL is mutable (indeed will be removed at some point) so it
would be helpful to include the contents of at least one of the hashes
in the vote mail.
Otherwise it won't be follow the provenance of the artefact.

Also, why is the file compressed using xz?
That is a relatively unknown/new format and is unlikely to be
available on all systems.

By all means provide that as well, but I think sources should be
provided as gzip and zip for maximum usability.

-1 because of the above

I've not checked the contents yet.

> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>
> [ ] +1: Good to go
> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>
> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
> possible votes have been cast).
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Ulises <ul...@gmail.com>.

+1 from me

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 at 10:04 Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>
> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>
> The tree can be inspected at
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>
> The release candidate is available at:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>
> Specifically, this is a vote on
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5
> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz(md5>,
> sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>
> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>
> [ ] +1: Good to go
> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>
> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
> possible votes have been cast).
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.

+1 as committer and IPMC member.  Nice to see a new (formal) release!

-- 

- Shane
  https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources

Daniel Gruno wrote on 2/9/18 5:03 AM:
> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
> 
> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
> 
> The tree can be inspected at
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
> 
> The release candidate is available at:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
> 
> Specifically, this is a vote on
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
> 
> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
> 
> [ ] +1: Good to go
> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
> 
> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
> possible votes have been cast).
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.

On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 04:30:14PM +0000, sebb wrote:
> On 9 February 2018 at 16:17, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>...
> > That's a matter of interpretation, I'd say.
> 
> The sentence is:
> 
> "Every ASF release MUST contain one or more source packages, which
> MUST be sufficient for a user to build and test the release provided
> they have access to the appropriate platform and tools."
> 
> How can it be right to omit the tests?

Users can test it themselves. There is no obligation for the ASF to
provide tests. I'd go so far as to say: please don't provide a test
suite that is not mature, as it may provide false positives.

Cheers,
-g

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 9 February 2018 at 16:17, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 02/09/2018 05:07 PM, sebb wrote:
>
>>
>> Not so; a release must be capable of being built *and tested*.
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
>>
>> Whilst the code currently has very few tests, there are some, and
>> users should be able to run them.
>
> That's a matter of interpretation, I'd say.

The sentence is:

"Every ASF release MUST contain one or more source packages, which
MUST be sufficient for a user to build and test the release provided
they have access to the appropriate platform and tools."

How can it be right to omit the tests?

> I left out the test dir, as it's not required for installing and using
> the software (generally speaking, the test dir in my opinion is for us
> developers, not the end user). You are free to of course vote -1 on that
> basis.

I have already.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.

On 02/09/2018 05:07 PM, sebb wrote:

> 
> Not so; a release must be capable of being built *and tested*.
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
> 
> Whilst the code currently has very few tests, there are some, and
> users should be able to run them.

That's a matter of interpretation, I'd say.
I left out the test dir, as it's not required for installing and using
the software (generally speaking, the test dir in my opinion is for us
developers, not the end user). You are free to of course vote -1 on that
basis.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 9 February 2018 at 15:40, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 02/09/2018 04:29 PM, sebb wrote:
>> On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>>
>>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>>
>>> The tree can be inspected at
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>>
>>> The release candidate is available at:
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>>
>> -1
>>
>> The dist archive does not agree with the GIT commit.
>
> It doesn't have to agree. It is files _collected_ from that hash.

Depends on what is missing.

But I agree that a release should not include source that is not in
the commit hash.

>>
>> At least one file is different (site/js/ponymail.js)
>
> Correct, the version differs. This shouldn't be a problem.

I think it should be fixed.
It does not meet your definition of "files _collected_ from that hash"

>> The test/ directory is missing, as are the STATUS and .gitignore files
>
> Those files are not important to make a release. See above.
> I could collect half the files and call a release, it doesn't have to
> be a bit-by-bit representation of what's in git :)

Not so; a release must be capable of being built *and tested*.
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages

Whilst the code currently has very few tests, there are some, and
users should be able to run them.

>>
>> The signature MUST be ascii-armoured and detached and have the suffix
>> .asc (not .sig)
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution#sigs-and-sums
>
> I've added an ascii armored version. It should correspond to the binary one.
>
>>
>> The signature in the KEYS file expires in June this year.
>>
>>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>>> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>>>
>>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>>
>>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>>
>>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>>> possible votes have been cast).
>>
>> [If anyone can vote, how can you know if all possible votes have been cast?!]
>>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 12 February 2018 at 14:00, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 04:40:40PM +0100, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>> On 02/09/2018 04:29 PM, sebb wrote:
>> > On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>> >>
>> >> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>> >> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>> >>
>> >> The tree can be inspected at
>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>> >>
>> >> The release candidate is available at:
>> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>> >
>> > -1
>> >
>> > The dist archive does not agree with the GIT commit.
>>
>> It doesn't have to agree. It is files _collected_ from that hash.
>
> Plus a bunch more.
>
> Any autoconf-based project only has "configure.ac" in their source
> tree. But the *release* has "configure" in there.
>
> Throw in lots of crap about aclocal, automake, blah blah, crap.
>
> No. A release tarball never matches a revision in source control.

That's not my experience.

What's the point of the VCS revision if it does not match the files
that are in the tarball?

> Cheers,
> -g

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.

On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 04:40:40PM +0100, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 02/09/2018 04:29 PM, sebb wrote:
> > On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
> >>
> >> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
> >> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
> >>
> >> The tree can be inspected at
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
> >>
> >> The release candidate is available at:
> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
> > 
> > -1
> > 
> > The dist archive does not agree with the GIT commit.
> 
> It doesn't have to agree. It is files _collected_ from that hash.

Plus a bunch more.

Any autoconf-based project only has "configure.ac" in their source
tree. But the *release* has "configure" in there.

Throw in lots of crap about aclocal, automake, blah blah, crap.

No. A release tarball never matches a revision in source control.

Cheers,
-g

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.

On 02/09/2018 04:29 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>
>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>
>> The tree can be inspected at
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>
>> The release candidate is available at:
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
> 
> -1
> 
> The dist archive does not agree with the GIT commit.

It doesn't have to agree. It is files _collected_ from that hash.

> 
> At least one file is different (site/js/ponymail.js)

Correct, the version differs. This shouldn't be a problem.

> The test/ directory is missing, as are the STATUS and .gitignore files

Those files are not important to make a release. See above.
I could collect half the files and call a release, it doesn't have to
be a bit-by-bit representation of what's in git :)

> 
> The signature MUST be ascii-armoured and detached and have the suffix
> .asc (not .sig)
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution#sigs-and-sums

I've added an ascii armored version. It should correspond to the binary one.

> 
> The signature in the KEYS file expires in June this year.
> 
>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>>
>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>
>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>
>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>> possible votes have been cast).
> 
> [If anyone can vote, how can you know if all possible votes have been cast?!]
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.

On 9 February 2018 at 10:03, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>
> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>
> The tree can be inspected at
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>
> The release candidate is available at:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/

-1

The dist archive does not agree with the GIT commit.

At least one file is different (site/js/ponymail.js).
The test/ directory is missing, as are the STATUS and .gitignore files

The signature MUST be ascii-armoured and detached and have the suffix
.asc (not .sig)

http://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution#sigs-and-sums

The signature in the KEYS file expires in June this year.

> Specifically, this is a vote on
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>
> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>
> [ ] +1: Good to go
> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>
> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
> possible votes have been cast).

[If anyone can vote, how can you know if all possible votes have been cast?!]

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.

On 09/02/2018 11:03, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>
> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>
> The tree can be inspected at
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>
> The release candidate is available at:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>
> Specifically, this is a vote on
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>
> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>
> [ ] +1: Good to go
> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>
> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
> possible votes have been cast).

+1
Regards.

-- 
Francesco Chicchiriccò

Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/

Member at The Apache Software Foundation
Syncope, Cocoon, Olingo, CXF, OpenJPA, PonyMail
http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.

I'm also +1 binding btw.

On 02/09/2018 02:55 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> +1 ship all the ponies
> 
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:04 AM Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>
>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>
>> The tree can be inspected at
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>
>> The release candidate is available at:
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>>
>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>>
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>> (md5
>> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz(md5>,
>> sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>>
>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>
>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>
>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>> possible votes have been cast).
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

+1 ship all the ponies

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:04 AM Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>
> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>
> The tree can be inspected at
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>
> The release candidate is available at:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>
> Specifically, this is a vote on
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5
> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz(md5>,
> sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>
> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>
> [ ] +1: Good to go
> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>
> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
> possible votes have been cast).
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.

Hi,

And also missing license in LICENSE for [1]

Thanks,
Justin

1. ponymail/site/fonts/glyphicons-halflings-regular.svg

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.

Hi,

> I did say in the initial email that we had 4 IPMC votes carrying over
> from the first vote. If that was not clear enough, I'll make sure it's
> clearer next time :)

Sorry I must of missed / overlooked that.

Thanks,
Justin

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.

On 02/16/2018 12:39 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I know the vote is over but I noticed a couple a minor things you may want to fix in the next release:
> -  NOTICE has incorrect year
> - jQuery mentioned in LICENSE doesn’t seem to be bundled

Ack, we'll get those fixed up :)

> 
> It also might be a good idea to say if you have any IPMC binding votes when calling for the vote here.

I did say in the initial email that we had 4 IPMC votes carrying over
from the first vote. If that was not clear enough, I'll make sure it's
clearer next time :)

> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.

Hi,

I know the vote is over but I noticed a couple a minor things you may want to fix in the next release:
-  NOTICE has incorrect year
- jQuery mentioned in LICENSE doesn’t seem to be bundled

It also might be a good idea to say if you have any IPMC binding votes when calling for the vote here.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by "Henk P. Penning" <pe...@uu.nl>.

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Daniel Gruno wrote:

> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:08:18 +0100
> From: Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

> Specifically, this is a vote on
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).

   ... and a .asc (great, fine) ; please don't use .sig's.

> Daniel.

   HPP

------------------------------------------------------------   _
Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta                 R Uithof MG-403    _/ \_
Faculty of Science, Utrecht University    T +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL          F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penning@uu.nl     \_/

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[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10

Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.

With the existing IPMC votes in the original vote, and no further votes
cast in the general@ vote, the release has passed. Yay :)

I'll start prepping for this.

With regards,
Daniel.

On 02/12/2018 02:08 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> 
> As seen below ( full thread at https://s.apache.org/F689 ), the Pony
> Mail community has voted to release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10.
> This serves as the official IPMC vote, with 4 binding IPMC votes already
> recorded. The vote will last 72h.
> 
> The release candidate voted on is available at:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
> 
> Specifically, this is a vote on
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
> 
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Pony Mail (Incubating) 0.10
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:01:46 +0100
> From: Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: dev@ponymail.incubator.apache.org
> To: dev@ponymail.incubator.apache.org
> 
> With 5 +1s (of which 4 are binding IPMC votes) and 1 -1, the release
> vote has passed. I'll forward to general@incubator and continue the vote
> there for 72h.
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> 
> On 02/09/2018 11:03 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>> Hullo folks, time for a release methinks!
>>
>> This is a vote on the artifacts collected from the tree in the 0.10
>> branch with commit hash a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8.
>>
>> The tree can be inspected at
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/tree/a8ea8a044996ba0aea08fe59156edb79cd6f9db8
>>
>> The release candidate is available at:
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/
>>
>> Specifically, this is a vote on
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ponymail/apache-pony-mail-0.10-incubating.tar.xz
>> (md5, sha256 and sig files are provided as well).
>>
>> Please inspect and vet the candidate and cast your votes accordingly:
>>
>> [ ] +1: Good to go
>> [ ]  0: Meh, either way is fine
>> [ ] -1: Don't release because....
>>
>> Anyone is welcome to vote on this release.
>> PPMC members can cast binding votes for the podling's release decision,
>> and IPMC members may cast binding votes that carry over to the IPMC
>> release vote later. This initial vote will last 72 hours (or less if all
>> possible votes have been cast).
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
> 
> 
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