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Eclipse as a dependency
Hi,
I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code formatter to
format my code.
I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse are quite
old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the whole
point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars somewhere ? I
think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to find the
jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
Thans,
Emmanuel
Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Roland Asmann <Ro...@cfc.at>.
I believe that openArchitectureWare also uses the eclipse-formatter. At
least they have several eclipse-jars in their repo (although I honestly
have no idea how old/new thea are). You might want to check those out?
http://www.openarchitectureware.org/m2/
Roland
> there are some jars already there from an attempt long time ago to
> have eclipse in the repository, under org.eclipse
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code
>> formatter to
>> format my code.
>> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse are
>> quite
>> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the
>> whole
>> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars somewhere
>> ? I
>> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to find
>> the
>> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
>> Thans,
>> Emmanuel
>>
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Carlos Sanchez <ca...@apache.org>.
there are some jars already there from an attempt long time ago to
have eclipse in the repository, under org.eclipse
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code formatter to
> format my code.
> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse are quite
> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the whole
> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars somewhere ? I
> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to find the
> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
> Thans,
> Emmanuel
>
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Jesse McConnell <je...@gmail.com>.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=283745
--
jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 09:46, Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com> wrote:
> The Eclipse folks are working themselves on making the Eclipse bundles
> available in a Maven repository.
>
> On 2009-09-25, at 6:59 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
>
>> No idea in the dev list ?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 25 sept. 2009, at 11:00, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code
>>> formatter to
>>> format my code.
>>> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse
>>> are quite
>>> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the
>>> whole
>>> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars
>>> somewhere ? I
>>> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to
>>> find the
>>> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
>>> Thans,
>>> Emmanuel
>>
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> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com>.
The Eclipse folks are working themselves on making the Eclipse bundles
available in a Maven repository.
On 2009-09-25, at 6:59 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> No idea in the dev list ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25 sept. 2009, at 11:00, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code
>> formatter to
>> format my code.
>> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse
>> are quite
>> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the
>> whole
>> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars
>> somewhere ? I
>> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to
>> find the
>> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
>> Thans,
>> Emmanuel
>
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Thanks,
Jason
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com>.
On 2009-09-27, at 9:54 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> On 2009-09-27, at 3:01 AM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ok, I dont mean to sound unhelpful.
>>
>> What I mean was that since the pain is felt more keenly by the Maven
>> community it is more likely that we will scratch the itch first.
>>
>
> Which is exactly what's happening. The Jetty developers have a need
> at Eclipse to build with Maven which is where the drive has come from.
>
>> What I would like to do is to get some visibility into who is
>> working on
>> this, what are the issues and what can we do to help.
>> Are you able to provide any more enlightenment?
>
> All in public view: bug 283745
Sorry, here's the full link.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=283745
>
> Participate as you like.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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Thanks,
Jason
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com>.
On 2009-09-27, at 3:01 AM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
>
>
> Ok, I dont mean to sound unhelpful.
>
> What I mean was that since the pain is felt more keenly by the Maven
> community it is more likely that we will scratch the itch first.
>
Which is exactly what's happening. The Jetty developers have a need at
Eclipse to build with Maven which is where the drive has come from.
> What I would like to do is to get some visibility into who is
> working on
> this, what are the issues and what can we do to help.
> Are you able to provide any more enlightenment?
All in public view: bug 283745
Participate as you like.
Thanks,
Jason
----------------------------------------------------------
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Founder, Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Barrie Treloar <ba...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com>wrote:
>
> On 2009-09-25, at 10:47 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason van Zyl <jvanzyl@sonatype.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't recommend using that. Let the Eclipse folks do it properly.
>>> They
>>> want to do it so we should help them in whatever capacity we can.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Having read through the bug report provided by Jesse (
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=283745)
>> I get the feeling that they are not keen to provide any resources to
>> support
>> this, because it diverts resources from other "entire" community
>> activities.
>>
>> I know there are enough people in the Maven community that would like to
>> see
>> this done, so I expect it will fall on us to do the implementation work.
>>
>
> Please don't start making unfounded assumptions, it really doesn't help.
>
> What we really need is someone from the Eclipse side who is willing to
>> spend
>> time explaining, guiding and providing advice to get this done.
>>
>> Does anyone have the necessary contacts at Eclipse to get such a person?
>>
>
> Yes, I talk to folks on the board on a pretty regular basis. I also talk to
> Mike Milinkovich and he wants to generally help setup proper Maven
> repositories at Eclipse. Folks like Oisin O'Hurley and Jeff McAffer have
> also expressed an interest in helping. Sonatype is actually a member, and
> Webtide is also at Eclipse with Jetty and they build with Maven so it's all
> getting done.
>
> You have to understand that Eclipse is far more rigorous with releases and
> generally the planning of their infrastructure. If artifacts are produced
> for a Maven repository it will be done with the knowledge and input of all
> the projects at Eclipse. And their infrastructure people know that this
> requires proper support, dedicated hardware and interoperability plans
> between Maven repositories and P2 repositories.
>
> Just dumping a bunch of translated artifacts doesn't really help anyone in
> the long term.
Ok, I dont mean to sound unhelpful.
What I mean was that since the pain is felt more keenly by the Maven
community it is more likely that we will scratch the itch first.
What I would like to do is to get some visibility into who is working on
this, what are the issues and what can we do to help.
Are you able to provide any more enlightenment?
Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com>.
On 2009-09-25, at 10:47 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason van Zyl
> <jv...@sonatype.com>wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't recommend using that. Let the Eclipse folks do it
>> properly. They
>> want to do it so we should help them in whatever capacity we can.
>
>
> Having read through the bug report provided by Jesse (
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=283745)
> I get the feeling that they are not keen to provide any resources to
> support
> this, because it diverts resources from other "entire" community
> activities.
>
> I know there are enough people in the Maven community that would
> like to see
> this done, so I expect it will fall on us to do the implementation
> work.
Please don't start making unfounded assumptions, it really doesn't help.
> What we really need is someone from the Eclipse side who is willing
> to spend
> time explaining, guiding and providing advice to get this done.
>
> Does anyone have the necessary contacts at Eclipse to get such a
> person?
Yes, I talk to folks on the board on a pretty regular basis. I also
talk to Mike Milinkovich and he wants to generally help setup proper
Maven repositories at Eclipse. Folks like Oisin O'Hurley and Jeff
McAffer have also expressed an interest in helping. Sonatype is
actually a member, and Webtide is also at Eclipse with Jetty and they
build with Maven so it's all getting done.
You have to understand that Eclipse is far more rigorous with releases
and generally the planning of their infrastructure. If artifacts are
produced for a Maven repository it will be done with the knowledge and
input of all the projects at Eclipse. And their infrastructure people
know that this requires proper support, dedicated hardware and
interoperability plans between Maven repositories and P2 repositories.
Just dumping a bunch of translated artifacts doesn't really help
anyone in the long term.
Thanks,
Jason
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Barrie Treloar <ba...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com>wrote:
> I wouldn't recommend using that. Let the Eclipse folks do it properly. They
> want to do it so we should help them in whatever capacity we can.
Having read through the bug report provided by Jesse (
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=283745)
I get the feeling that they are not keen to provide any resources to support
this, because it diverts resources from other "entire" community activities.
I know there are enough people in the Maven community that would like to see
this done, so I expect it will fall on us to do the implementation work.
What we really need is someone from the Eclipse side who is willing to spend
time explaining, guiding and providing advice to get this done.
Does anyone have the necessary contacts at Eclipse to get such a person?
Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Garvin LeClaire <ga...@gmail.com>.
Sounds, good.
I just used mvnrepository.com to do a quick search and saw a number of
pieces for eclipse deployed. I don't know if the needed package is
there, but it may be a start.
Regards,
Garvin LeClaire
garvin.leclaire@gmail.com
On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> I wouldn't recommend using that. Let the Eclipse folks do it
> properly. They want to do it so we should help them in whatever
> capacity we can.
>
> On 2009-09-25, at 8:18 AM, Garvin LeClaire wrote:
>
>> Try http://repo2.maven.org/eclipse/
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Garvin LeClaire
>> garvin.leclaire@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
>>
>>> No idea in the dev list ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 25 sept. 2009, at 11:00, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code
>>>> formatter to
>>>> format my code.
>>>> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse
>>>> are quite
>>>> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the
>>>> whole
>>>> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars
>>>> somewhere ? I
>>>> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to
>>>> find the
>>>> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
>>>> Thans,
>>>> Emmanuel
>>>
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@sonatype.com>.
I wouldn't recommend using that. Let the Eclipse folks do it properly.
They want to do it so we should help them in whatever capacity we can.
On 2009-09-25, at 8:18 AM, Garvin LeClaire wrote:
> Try http://repo2.maven.org/eclipse/
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Garvin LeClaire
> garvin.leclaire@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
>
>> No idea in the dev list ?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 25 sept. 2009, at 11:00, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code
>>> formatter to
>>> format my code.
>>> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse
>>> are quite
>>> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the
>>> whole
>>> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars
>>> somewhere ? I
>>> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to
>>> find the
>>> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
>>> Thans,
>>> Emmanuel
>>
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Jason
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Garvin LeClaire <ga...@gmail.com>.
Try http://repo2.maven.org/eclipse/
Regards,
Garvin LeClaire
garvin.leclaire@gmail.com
On Sep 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> No idea in the dev list ?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25 sept. 2009, at 11:00, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code
>> formatter to
>> format my code.
>> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse
>> are quite
>> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the
>> whole
>> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars
>> somewhere ? I
>> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to
>> find the
>> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
>> Thans,
>> Emmanuel
>
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Re: Eclipse as a dependency
Posted by Arnaud HERITIER <ah...@gmail.com>.
No idea in the dev list ?
Sent from my iPhone
On 25 sept. 2009, at 11:00, Emmanuel Hugonnet <eh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I have created a small Maven plugin which uses the Eclipse code
> formatter to
> format my code.
> I would like to release it but the available librairies of Eclipse
> are quite
> old and I don't want my users to have Eclipse installed (that's the
> whole
> point of the plugin). Is there a repository with Eclipse jars
> somewhere ? I
> think that m2eclipse/tycho should be using them but I can't seem to
> find the
> jars. What's the policy concerning these jars ?
> Thans,
> Emmanuel
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