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Posted to derby-user@db.apache.org by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com> on 2006/01/17 22:57:38 UTC

Derby logo on the web site

I'm resurrecting the topic that tapered off right before the holidays. 
The start of that discussion is at 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user/200512.mbox/%3c43A9987F.2000504@bristowhill.com%3e 
.

Here's my succinct summary (anyone should feel free to add details):

(1) Roger Dudler offered to help us produce a final logo in various 
sizes that will also work for the web site. DERBY-747 at 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-747 is the Jira issue we're 
using for managing drafts.

(2) The wording that went with the logo with text at 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
can't be used as is because of the use of "Java". Dan Debrunner and 
Craig Russell voiced the strongest concerns about nailing down the text 
as well as the look of the text.

(3) For the web site, Jean Anderson voiced strong preferences for 
continuing to include the DB project logo in the masthead to maintain 
that clear affiliation.

Here's the last sample I did for the web site:

http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321539/masthead_derby5.png

The derby logo is a little blurry because I cut&pasted it from 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321532/masthead_derby2.png 
. When people provide feedback, Roger can produce a crisp final.

With that, I'd like to kick off another round of logo discussions. It 
would be nice to get this finalized so we can incorporate it into the 
web site, derby docs, etc.

regards,

  -jean

Re: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web site)

Posted by Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>.
On 1/17/06, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>
> Roger changed the subline from "Pure Java Database" to "Open Source
> Database"

+1. seems like a good choice of words to me. :-)

andrew

Re: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web site)

Posted by Michelle Caisse <Mi...@Sun.COM>.
The new proposal looks good to me.  I agree that it is important to get 
the look of the text as well as the wording nailed down to present a 
consistent image wherever the logo is used.

-- Michelle

Jean T. Anderson wrote:

> Samer Kanjo wrote:
>
>> I liked the positioning of the original tagline. The new tagline 
>> seems to
>> far away from "Apache Derby".
>
>
> Your eyesight is far better than mine -- I had to line a ruler up to 
> determine that, indeed, the original tagline is closer to the Apache 
> Derby text.
>
> Does anyone else have a preference either way?
>
> -jean
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jean T. Anderson [mailto:jta@bristowhill.com] Sent: Tuesday, 
>> January 17, 2006 5:55 PM
>> To: Derby Discussion
>> Subject: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on 
>> the web
>> site)
>>
>> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> I'm resurrecting the topic that tapered off right before the 
>>> holidays. ... (2) The wording that went with the logo with text at
>>
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>>
>>
>>
>>> can't be used as is because of the use of "Java". Dan Debrunner and 
>>> Craig Russell voiced the strongest concerns about nailing down the 
>>> text as well as the look of the text.
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger changed the subline from "Pure Java Database" to "Open Source 
>> Database":
>>
>> old: 
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
>>
>> new: 
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321532/masthead_derby2.png 
>>
>>
>> Does anybody disagree with his choice of new wording? If so, what do 
>> you suggest?
>>
>> Does anybody disagree with the overall look (fonts) used for the 
>> text? If so, what do you suggest?
>>
>> If I hear nothing by this Friday, Jan 20, I'll assume this is good to 
>> go as is and will ask Roger to create the finals in various sizes. 
>> And, Roger, thanks again for all your work on this!
>>
>>   -jean
>>
>>
>


Re: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web site)

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Samer Kanjo wrote:
> I liked the positioning of the original tagline. The new tagline seems to
> far away from "Apache Derby".

Your eyesight is far better than mine -- I had to line a ruler up to 
determine that, indeed, the original tagline is closer to the Apache 
Derby text.

Does anyone else have a preference either way?

-jean


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean T. Anderson [mailto:jta@bristowhill.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:55 PM
> To: Derby Discussion
> Subject: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web
> site)
> 
> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> 
>>I'm resurrecting the topic that tapered off right before the holidays. 
>>... 
>>(2) The wording that went with the logo with text at 
>>
> 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
> 
> 
>>can't be used as is because of the use of "Java". Dan Debrunner and 
>>Craig Russell voiced the strongest concerns about nailing down the text 
>>as well as the look of the text.
> 
> 
> Roger changed the subline from "Pure Java Database" to "Open Source 
> Database":
> 
> old: 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
> new: 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321532/masthead_derby2.png
> 
> Does anybody disagree with his choice of new wording? If so, what do you 
> suggest?
> 
> Does anybody disagree with the overall look (fonts) used for the text? 
> If so, what do you suggest?
> 
> If I hear nothing by this Friday, Jan 20, I'll assume this is good to go 
> as is and will ask Roger to create the finals in various sizes. And, 
> Roger, thanks again for all your work on this!
> 
>   -jean
> 
> 


Re: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web site)

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi,

I have no issues with the proposed banner.

> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321532/ 
> masthead_derby2.png

Craig

On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Samer Kanjo wrote:

> I liked the positioning of the original tagline. The new tagline  
> seems to
> far away from "Apache Derby".
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean T. Anderson [mailto:jta@bristowhill.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:55 PM
> To: Derby Discussion
> Subject: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on  
> the web
> site)
>
> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>> I'm resurrecting the topic that tapered off right before the  
>> holidays.
>> ...
>> (2) The wording that went with the logo with text at
>>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/ 
> derby_with_text.jpg
>
>> can't be used as is because of the use of "Java". Dan Debrunner and
>> Craig Russell voiced the strongest concerns about nailing down the  
>> text
>> as well as the look of the text.
>
> Roger changed the subline from "Pure Java Database" to "Open Source
> Database":
>
> old:
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/ 
> derby_with_text.jpg
> new:
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321532/ 
> masthead_derby2.png
>
> Does anybody disagree with his choice of new wording? If so, what  
> do you
> suggest?
>
> Does anybody disagree with the overall look (fonts) used for the text?
> If so, what do you suggest?
>
> If I hear nothing by this Friday, Jan 20, I'll assume this is good  
> to go
> as is and will ask Roger to create the finals in various sizes. And,
> Roger, thanks again for all your work on this!
>
>   -jean
>
>

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


RE: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web site)

Posted by Samer Kanjo <sa...@kanjo.net>.
I liked the positioning of the original tagline. The new tagline seems to
far away from "Apache Derby".

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean T. Anderson [mailto:jta@bristowhill.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:55 PM
To: Derby Discussion
Subject: The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web
site)

Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> I'm resurrecting the topic that tapered off right before the holidays. 
> ... 
> (2) The wording that went with the logo with text at 
>
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg

> can't be used as is because of the use of "Java". Dan Debrunner and 
> Craig Russell voiced the strongest concerns about nailing down the text 
> as well as the look of the text.

Roger changed the subline from "Pure Java Database" to "Open Source 
Database":

old: 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
new: 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321532/masthead_derby2.png

Does anybody disagree with his choice of new wording? If so, what do you 
suggest?

Does anybody disagree with the overall look (fonts) used for the text? 
If so, what do you suggest?

If I hear nothing by this Friday, Jan 20, I'll assume this is good to go 
as is and will ask Roger to create the finals in various sizes. And, 
Roger, thanks again for all your work on this!

  -jean



The text that goes with the Derby logo (Was: Derby logo on the web site)

Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> I'm resurrecting the topic that tapered off right before the holidays. 
> ... 
> (2) The wording that went with the logo with text at 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg 
> can't be used as is because of the use of "Java". Dan Debrunner and 
> Craig Russell voiced the strongest concerns about nailing down the text 
> as well as the look of the text.

Roger changed the subline from "Pure Java Database" to "Open Source 
Database":

old: 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321023/derby_with_text.jpg
new: 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321532/masthead_derby2.png

Does anybody disagree with his choice of new wording? If so, what do you 
suggest?

Does anybody disagree with the overall look (fonts) used for the text? 
If so, what do you suggest?

If I hear nothing by this Friday, Jan 20, I'll assume this is good to go 
as is and will ask Roger to create the finals in various sizes. And, 
Roger, thanks again for all your work on this!

  -jean