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How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution (from
contributors)?
Hi,
(This questions spun off of my old question
http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is outside
the normal apache tomcat distribution.
The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not rolled
into the distribution.
Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors apache
sites in a production system?
Thanks for any insight.
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RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
(from contributors)?
Posted by "Propes, Barry L " <ba...@citi.com>.
Just FYI dunlow, while I have the oracle jar, I do use Tomcat's dbcp jar. You're not looking to use that are you?
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Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution (from contributors)?
Barry, let's move this conversation to the other thread (the initial one) I was hoping to get feedback here regarding using code from Apache for tomcat outside of the normal delivery. (and yes, I'd like to start using the tomcat connection pool instead of oracle's). thanks.
Propes, Barry L wrote:
>
> And you've been able to use it so far, and are trying to get away from
> it to the tomcat jdbc one?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:44 PM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal
> distribution (from contributors)?
>
>
> Yes, it's the thin client for jdk 1.6
>
>
> Propes, Barry L wrote:
>>
>> Is that more current than the 14_g version?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal
>> distribution (from contributors)?
>>
>>
>> yes (ojdbc6.jar to be exact)
>>
>>
>> Propes, Barry L wrote:
>>>
>>> Dunlow, do you also have the oracle jar?
>>>
>>> ojdbc14_g.jar?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20 AM
>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>> Subject: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal
>>> distribution (from contributors)?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> (This questions spun off of my old question
>>> http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
>>>
>>> The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from
>>> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
>>> seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is
>>> outside the normal apache tomcat distribution.
>>>
>>> The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is
>>> not rolled into the distribution.
>>>
>>> Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors
>>> apache sites in a production system?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insight.
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RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
(from contributors)?
Posted by dunnlow <du...@yahoo.com>.
Barry, let's move this conversation to the other thread (the initial one) I
was hoping to get feedback here regarding using code from Apache for tomcat
outside of the normal delivery. (and yes, I'd like to start using the
tomcat connection pool instead of oracle's). thanks.
Propes, Barry L wrote:
>
> And you've been able to use it so far, and are trying to get away from it
> to the tomcat jdbc one?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:44 PM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
> (from contributors)?
>
>
> Yes, it's the thin client for jdk 1.6
>
>
> Propes, Barry L wrote:
>>
>> Is that more current than the 14_g version?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal
>> distribution (from contributors)?
>>
>>
>> yes (ojdbc6.jar to be exact)
>>
>>
>> Propes, Barry L wrote:
>>>
>>> Dunlow, do you also have the oracle jar?
>>>
>>> ojdbc14_g.jar?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20 AM
>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>> Subject: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
>>> (from contributors)?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> (This questions spun off of my old question
>>> http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
>>>
>>> The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from
>>> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
>>> seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is
>>> outside the normal apache tomcat distribution.
>>>
>>> The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not
>>> rolled into the distribution.
>>>
>>> Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors
>>> apache sites in a production system?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insight.
>>> --
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RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
(from contributors)?
Posted by "Propes, Barry L " <ba...@citi.com>.
And you've been able to use it so far, and are trying to get away from it to the tomcat jdbc one?
-----Original Message-----
From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:44 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution (from contributors)?
Yes, it's the thin client for jdk 1.6
Propes, Barry L wrote:
>
> Is that more current than the 14_g version?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal
> distribution (from contributors)?
>
>
> yes (ojdbc6.jar to be exact)
>
>
> Propes, Barry L wrote:
>>
>> Dunlow, do you also have the oracle jar?
>>
>> ojdbc14_g.jar?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20 AM
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
>> (from contributors)?
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> (This questions spun off of my old question
>> http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
>>
>> The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from
>> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
>> seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is
>> outside the normal apache tomcat distribution.
>>
>> The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not
>> rolled into the distribution.
>>
>> Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors
>> apache sites in a production system?
>>
>> Thanks for any insight.
>> --
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RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
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Posted by dunnlow <du...@yahoo.com>.
Yes, it's the thin client for jdk 1.6
Propes, Barry L wrote:
>
> Is that more current than the 14_g version?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
> (from contributors)?
>
>
> yes (ojdbc6.jar to be exact)
>
>
> Propes, Barry L wrote:
>>
>> Dunlow, do you also have the oracle jar?
>>
>> ojdbc14_g.jar?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20 AM
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
>> (from contributors)?
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> (This questions spun off of my old question
>> http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
>>
>> The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from
>> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
>> seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is
>> outside the normal apache tomcat distribution.
>>
>> The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not
>> rolled into the distribution.
>>
>> Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors
>> apache sites in a production system?
>>
>> Thanks for any insight.
>> --
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>> http://old.nabble.com/How-safe-is-using-Tomcat-code-outside-of-normal-
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RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
(from contributors)?
Posted by "Propes, Barry L " <ba...@citi.com>.
Is that more current than the 14_g version?
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution (from contributors)?
yes (ojdbc6.jar to be exact)
Propes, Barry L wrote:
>
> Dunlow, do you also have the oracle jar?
>
> ojdbc14_g.jar?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20 AM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
> (from contributors)?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> (This questions spun off of my old question
> http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
>
> The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from
> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
> seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is
> outside the normal apache tomcat distribution.
>
> The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not
> rolled into the distribution.
>
> Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors
> apache sites in a production system?
>
> Thanks for any insight.
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RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
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Posted by dunnlow <du...@yahoo.com>.
yes (ojdbc6.jar to be exact)
Propes, Barry L wrote:
>
> Dunlow, do you also have the oracle jar?
>
> ojdbc14_g.jar?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dunnlow [mailto:dunnlow@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20 AM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
> (from contributors)?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> (This questions spun off of my old question
> http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
>
> The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
> seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is
> outside the normal apache tomcat distribution.
>
> The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not
> rolled into the distribution.
>
> Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors apache
> sites in a production system?
>
> Thanks for any insight.
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RE: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
(from contributors)?
Posted by "Propes, Barry L " <ba...@citi.com>.
Dunlow, do you also have the oracle jar?
ojdbc14_g.jar?
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Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20 AM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution (from contributors)?
Hi,
(This questions spun off of my old question http://old.nabble.com/Why-can%27t-Tomcat-find-class-org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool-DataSourceFactory--td31441243.html).
The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is outside the normal apache tomcat distribution.
The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not rolled into the distribution.
Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors apache sites in a production system?
Thanks for any insight.
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Re: How safe is using Tomcat code outside of normal distribution
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Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Dunnlow,
On 4/21/2011 11:20 AM, dunnlow wrote:
> The jar tomcat-jdbc.jar (from http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/)
> seems to be what I need. HOWEVER, I am concerned that this .jar is outside
> the normal apache tomcat distribution.
It is. Given that it hasn't made it into the main distro, yet, you may
want to treat it as beta-quality.
That said, I trust Filip not to build something that is malicious. There
may be some performance problems or edge cases where the pool fails, but
it's certainly going to be /decent/ beta-quality software :)
> The jar seems very useful, so I assume there is some reason it is not rolled
> into the distribution.
Filip has been working on that component on and off the several years.
He recently returned from an extended leave of absence from the project
and will probably get back into things when he has time.
> Question: How safe (/common) is it to use code from contributors apache
> sites in a production system?
Frankly, I wouldn't do it.
Have you tried the pool that DOES come with Tomcat? It's a re-packaged
commons-dbcp library. There have been lots of complaints about it under
certain conditions but I've found that it meets my needs quite well.
- -chris
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