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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com> on 2014/04/15 21:19:13 UTC
Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
A short proposal<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit>
for
how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during the hangout
today. Feel free to comment.
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>.
Hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpimqjsa9cqpk6cu0oaalvu0
Stating in 10 minutes.
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Braden Shepherdson <br...@chromium.org>.
Sorry I missed this meeting, everyone. I was down for the count last week
with an awful head cold.
The upshots from the meeting look good to me. The only part I'm not excited
about is the idea of having a whole gaggle of cordova-lib-foo npm modules.
But I can roll with that one as long as they're all in the one repo. We
really, really don't need more of those. My git-fu is strong, but having to
commit changes across four repos is no fun at all.
Braden
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:
> huzzah infra. now it waits while we easter all weekend!
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-lib.git;a=summary
> >
> > Got created earlier today!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > this is great stuff, thanks everyone, I'm going to kick up threads for
> > the
> > > three open questions
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks great!
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7596
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib
> > repo.
> > > > > - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian
> > will
> > > > use
> > > > > git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman,
> > > importing
> > > > > the full git history for each dir.
> > > > > - We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch
> > > [TBD:
> > > > > exactly how much can we remove]
> > > > > - We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman
> > > [TBD:
> > > > > same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
> > > > > cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
> > > > > - At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths
> just
> > > > > changed a bit.
> > > > > - Over time, we dedup and break out code from
> cordova-lib-cordova-cli
> > > and
> > > > > cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
> > > > > - At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only
> > on
> > > > > cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm
> modules,
> > > but
> > > > > eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm
> > > module
> > > > > entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
> > > > > cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
> > > > > - At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
> > > > > cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated
> > repos
> > > > > (perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how
> > to
> > > do
> > > > > that..).
> > > > >
> > > > > Some open questions:
> > > > > - How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release
> process
> > > > > cordova-lib modules?
> > > > > - How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that
> > > > parses
> > > > > input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls
> > with
> > > > > opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into
> the
> > > > forms
> > > > > cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
> > > > > - Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an
> > > apache
> > > > > release means pushing updated package.json deps?
> > > > >
> > > > > In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of
> this
> > > new
> > > > > approach, we think, are:
> > > > > - We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not
> > just
> > > > > plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc
> > > downstream
> > > > > distributions).
> > > > > - We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which
> is
> > > > > easier to test and reason about.
> > > > > - We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want
> > is
> > > > some
> > > > > lib feature.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anything else?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <
> sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple
> > > > repos:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Git Tags
> > > > > > > > - Atomic commits
> > > > > > > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > > > > > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also:
> > > > > > > - Expectations from external contributors
> > > > > > > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > > > > > > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > > > > > > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only --
> forward
> > > > calls
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or
> > > should
> > > > it
> > > > > > > itself implement those modules?
> > > > > > > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > > > > > > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > > > > > > implementations?
> > > > > > > - How do we import module implementation and retain history
> > (git
> > > > > magic)
> > > > > > > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter --
> > protip
> > > or
> > > > > > joke?
> > > > > > > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > > > > > > - Testing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> > > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > > > > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > > sosah.victor@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <
> > kamrik@google.com
> > > >:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before
> > the
> > > > > > start.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > > > > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on
> > > Thursday,
> > > > > > April
> > > > > > > > 17,
> > > > > > > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > > > > > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > > > > > > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and
> > 4pm+
> > > > PST
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > Jesse
> > > > > > > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> This won't be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > > > > > > kamrik@google.com)
> > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <
> > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > > > > > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time.
> (I
> > > > hope I
> > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > b@brian.io
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos
> > that
> > > > we
> > > > > > > > publish
> > > > > > > > >>>> as
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage
> > > deps)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common
> > module
> > > > > > > > extraction
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> > > > > > cordova-lib
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for
> > example
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for
> > > sharing)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from
> cordova-lib
> > > to
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > > >>>>> generally
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib",
> > "node_modules",
> > > > > > > "common".
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json
> > > > (published
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just
> > having a
> > > > > > > > >>> convention
> > > > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with
> > > "cordova-lib-*"
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>>> matching
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > b@brian.io
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like
> > > this:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as
> > > cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > > > > > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > > > > > > >>> change/remove
> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> us
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one
> top
> > > > level
> > > > > > npm
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> > > > > > ../node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > > >>>>> still
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at
> > > > > dev/publish
> > > > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one
> > for
> > > > > > plugman
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at
> > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and
> > > living
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > >>> same
> > > > > > > > >>>>> repo
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on
> > > > twitter
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > b@brian.io>
> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been
> > > > cheeky.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a
> one
> > > > hour
> > > > > > > > >>>> window
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky
> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules
> > > right
> > > > > > > > >>> away
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be
> ready
> > > > right
> > > > > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> git
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about
> > yet.
> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > > > > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some
> > > interesting
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> responses
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I
> > > think
> > > > > > > > >>>> it's
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself
> if
> > > > you'd
> > > > > > > > >>>>> like
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark
> > Koudritsky
> > > <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > > > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>.
huzzah infra. now it waits while we easter all weekend!
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-lib.git;a=summary
>
> Got created earlier today!
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > this is great stuff, thanks everyone, I'm going to kick up threads for
> the
> > three open questions
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Looks great!
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7596
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
> > > >
> > > > - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib
> repo.
> > > > - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian
> will
> > > use
> > > > git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman,
> > importing
> > > > the full git history for each dir.
> > > > - We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch
> > [TBD:
> > > > exactly how much can we remove]
> > > > - We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman
> > [TBD:
> > > > same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
> > > > cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
> > > > - At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths just
> > > > changed a bit.
> > > > - Over time, we dedup and break out code from cordova-lib-cordova-cli
> > and
> > > > cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
> > > > - At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only
> on
> > > > cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm modules,
> > but
> > > > eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm
> > module
> > > > entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
> > > > cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
> > > > - At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
> > > > cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated
> repos
> > > > (perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how
> to
> > do
> > > > that..).
> > > >
> > > > Some open questions:
> > > > - How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release process
> > > > cordova-lib modules?
> > > > - How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that
> > > parses
> > > > input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls
> with
> > > > opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into the
> > > forms
> > > > cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
> > > > - Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an
> > apache
> > > > release means pushing updated package.json deps?
> > > >
> > > > In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of this
> > new
> > > > approach, we think, are:
> > > > - We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not
> just
> > > > plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc
> > downstream
> > > > distributions).
> > > > - We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which is
> > > > easier to test and reason about.
> > > > - We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want
> is
> > > some
> > > > lib feature.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anything else?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <sosah.victor@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple
> > > repos:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Git Tags
> > > > > > > - Atomic commits
> > > > > > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > > > > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also:
> > > > > > - Expectations from external contributors
> > > > > > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > > > > > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > > > > > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward
> > > calls
> > > > > to
> > > > > > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or
> > should
> > > it
> > > > > > itself implement those modules?
> > > > > > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > > > > > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > > > > > implementations?
> > > > > > - How do we import module implementation and retain history
> (git
> > > > magic)
> > > > > > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter --
> protip
> > or
> > > > > joke?
> > > > > > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > > > > > - Testing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > > > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > sosah.victor@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <
> kamrik@google.com
> > >:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before
> the
> > > > > start.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > > > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on
> > Thursday,
> > > > > April
> > > > > > > 17,
> > > > > > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > > > > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > > > > > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and
> 4pm+
> > > PST
> > > > is
> > > > > > > Jesse
> > > > > > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> This won't be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > > > > > kamrik@google.com)
> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <
> > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > > > > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > > > > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I
> > > hope I
> > > > > got
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > > > > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> b@brian.io
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos
> that
> > > we
> > > > > > > publish
> > > > > > > >>>> as
> > > > > > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage
> > deps)
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common
> module
> > > > > > > extraction
> > > > > > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> > > > > cordova-lib
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for
> example
> > > > > > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for
> > sharing)
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib
> > to
> > > > more
> > > > > > > >>>>> generally
> > > > > > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib",
> "node_modules",
> > > > > > "common".
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json
> > > (published
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just
> having a
> > > > > > > >>> convention
> > > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with
> > "cordova-lib-*"
> > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>>> matching
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > b@brian.io
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like
> > this:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as
> > cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > > > > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > > > > > >>> change/remove
> > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it
> > > doesn't
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>> us
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top
> > > level
> > > > > npm
> > > > > > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> > > > > ../node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > >>>>> still
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at
> > > > dev/publish
> > > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one
> for
> > > > > plugman
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at
> the
> > > > same
> > > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and
> > living
> > > in
> > > > > > > >>> same
> > > > > > > >>>>> repo
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on
> > > twitter
> > > > > > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > b@brian.io>
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been
> > > cheeky.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one
> > > hour
> > > > > > > >>>> window
> > > > > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules
> > right
> > > > > > > >>> away
> > > > > > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready
> > > right
> > > > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > > > >>>>>> git
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about
> yet.
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > > > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some
> > interesting
> > > > > > > >>>>>> responses
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I
> > think
> > > > > > > >>>> it's
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if
> > > you'd
> > > > > > > >>>>> like
> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark
> Koudritsky
> > <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-lib.git;a=summary
Got created earlier today!
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> this is great stuff, thanks everyone, I'm going to kick up threads for the
> three open questions
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Looks great!
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7596
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
> > >
> > > - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib repo.
> > > - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian will
> > use
> > > git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman,
> importing
> > > the full git history for each dir.
> > > - We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch
> [TBD:
> > > exactly how much can we remove]
> > > - We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman
> [TBD:
> > > same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
> > > cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
> > > - At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths just
> > > changed a bit.
> > > - Over time, we dedup and break out code from cordova-lib-cordova-cli
> and
> > > cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
> > > - At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only on
> > > cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm modules,
> but
> > > eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm
> module
> > > entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
> > > cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
> > > - At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
> > > cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated repos
> > > (perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how to
> do
> > > that..).
> > >
> > > Some open questions:
> > > - How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release process
> > > cordova-lib modules?
> > > - How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that
> > parses
> > > input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls with
> > > opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into the
> > forms
> > > cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
> > > - Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an
> apache
> > > release means pushing updated package.json deps?
> > >
> > > In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of this
> new
> > > approach, we think, are:
> > > - We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not just
> > > plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc
> downstream
> > > distributions).
> > > - We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which is
> > > easier to test and reason about.
> > > - We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want is
> > some
> > > lib feature.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anything else?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple
> > repos:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Git Tags
> > > > > > - Atomic commits
> > > > > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > > > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> > > > >
> > > > > Also:
> > > > > - Expectations from external contributors
> > > > > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > > > > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> > > > >
> > > > > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > > > > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward
> > calls
> > > > to
> > > > > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or
> should
> > it
> > > > > itself implement those modules?
> > > > > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > > > > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > > > > implementations?
> > > > > - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git
> > > magic)
> > > > > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip
> or
> > > > joke?
> > > > > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > > > > - Testing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > sosah.victor@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <kamrik@google.com
> >:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the
> > > > start.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on
> Thursday,
> > > > April
> > > > > > 17,
> > > > > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > > > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > > > > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+
> > PST
> > > is
> > > > > > Jesse
> > > > > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> This won't be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > > > > kamrik@google.com)
> > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <
> > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > > > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > > > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I
> > hope I
> > > > got
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > > > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that
> > we
> > > > > > publish
> > > > > > >>>> as
> > > > > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage
> deps)
> > > > > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> > > > > > extraction
> > > > > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > > > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> > > > cordova-lib
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > > > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for
> sharing)
> > > > > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib
> to
> > > more
> > > > > > >>>>> generally
> > > > > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > > > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules",
> > > > > "common".
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json
> > (published
> > > > as
> > > > > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> > > > > > >>> convention
> > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with
> "cordova-lib-*"
> > > and
> > > > > > >>>>> matching
> > > > > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> b@brian.io
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like
> this:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as
> cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > > > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > > > > >>> change/remove
> > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it
> > doesn't
> > > > work
> > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>> us
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top
> > level
> > > > npm
> > > > > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> > > > ../node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>> still
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at
> > > dev/publish
> > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for
> > > > plugman
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the
> > > same
> > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and
> living
> > in
> > > > > > >>> same
> > > > > > >>>>> repo
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on
> > twitter
> > > > > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > b@brian.io>
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been
> > cheeky.
> > > > > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one
> > hour
> > > > > > >>>> window
> > > > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules
> right
> > > > > > >>> away
> > > > > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready
> > right
> > > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > > >>>>>> git
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some
> interesting
> > > > > > >>>>>> responses
> > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I
> think
> > > > > > >>>> it's
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if
> > you'd
> > > > > > >>>>> like
> > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky
> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > IBM Software Engineer
> > > > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
this is great stuff, thanks everyone, I'm going to kick up threads for the
three open questions
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks great!
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7596
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
> >
> > - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib repo.
> > - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian will
> use
> > git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman, importing
> > the full git history for each dir.
> > - We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch [TBD:
> > exactly how much can we remove]
> > - We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman [TBD:
> > same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
> > cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
> > - At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths just
> > changed a bit.
> > - Over time, we dedup and break out code from cordova-lib-cordova-cli and
> > cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
> > - At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only on
> > cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm modules, but
> > eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm module
> > entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
> > cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
> > - At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
> > cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated repos
> > (perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how to do
> > that..).
> >
> > Some open questions:
> > - How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release process
> > cordova-lib modules?
> > - How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that
> parses
> > input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls with
> > opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into the
> forms
> > cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
> > - Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an apache
> > release means pushing updated package.json deps?
> >
> > In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of this new
> > approach, we think, are:
> > - We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not just
> > plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc downstream
> > distributions).
> > - We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which is
> > easier to test and reason about.
> > - We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want is
> some
> > lib feature.
> >
> >
> > Anything else?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple
> repos:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Git Tags
> > > > > - Atomic commits
> > > > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> > > >
> > > > Also:
> > > > - Expectations from external contributors
> > > > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > > > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> > > >
> > > > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > > > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward
> calls
> > > to
> > > > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or should
> it
> > > > itself implement those modules?
> > > > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > > > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > > > implementations?
> > > > - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git
> > magic)
> > > > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip or
> > > joke?
> > > > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > > > - Testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> > > purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <
> sosah.victor@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the
> > > start.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday,
> > > April
> > > > > 17,
> > > > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > > > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+
> PST
> > is
> > > > > Jesse
> > > > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> This won't be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > > > kamrik@google.com)
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <
> > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I
> hope I
> > > got
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that
> we
> > > > > publish
> > > > > >>>> as
> > > > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > > > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> > > > > extraction
> > > > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> > > cordova-lib
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > > > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to
> > more
> > > > > >>>>> generally
> > > > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules",
> > > > "common".
> > > > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json
> (published
> > > as
> > > > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> > > > > >>> convention
> > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*"
> > and
> > > > > >>>>> matching
> > > > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > > > >>> change/remove
> > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it
> doesn't
> > > work
> > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>> us
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top
> level
> > > npm
> > > > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> > > ../node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>> still
> > > > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at
> > dev/publish
> > > > > >>> time
> > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for
> > > plugman
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the
> > same
> > > > > >>> time
> > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living
> in
> > > > > >>> same
> > > > > >>>>> repo
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on
> twitter
> > > > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> b@brian.io>
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been
> cheeky.
> > > > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one
> hour
> > > > > >>>> window
> > > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
> > > > > >>> away
> > > > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready
> right
> > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > >>>>>> git
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > > > > >>>>>> responses
> > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> > > > > >>>> it's
> > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if
> you'd
> > > > > >>>>> like
> > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > IBM Software Engineer
> > > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
LGTM
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com> wrote:
> Thanks Steven!
>
> I've added a proposal for a detailed plan on how to move forward at the
> bottom
> of the doc<
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit#heading=h.i5l8na3iys39
> >.
> Please take a look and comment.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Looks great!
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7596
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
> > >
> > > - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib repo.
> > > - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian will
> > use
> > > git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman,
> importing
> > > the full git history for each dir.
> > > - We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch
> [TBD:
> > > exactly how much can we remove]
> > > - We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman
> [TBD:
> > > same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
> > > cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
> > > - At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths just
> > > changed a bit.
> > > - Over time, we dedup and break out code from cordova-lib-cordova-cli
> and
> > > cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
> > > - At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only on
> > > cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm modules,
> but
> > > eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm
> module
> > > entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
> > > cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
> > > - At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
> > > cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated repos
> > > (perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how to
> do
> > > that..).
> > >
> > > Some open questions:
> > > - How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release process
> > > cordova-lib modules?
> > > - How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that
> > parses
> > > input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls with
> > > opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into the
> > forms
> > > cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
> > > - Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an
> apache
> > > release means pushing updated package.json deps?
> > >
> > > In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of this
> new
> > > approach, we think, are:
> > > - We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not just
> > > plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc
> downstream
> > > distributions).
> > > - We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which is
> > > easier to test and reason about.
> > > - We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want is
> > some
> > > lib feature.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anything else?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple
> > repos:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Git Tags
> > > > > > - Atomic commits
> > > > > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > > > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> > > > >
> > > > > Also:
> > > > > - Expectations from external contributors
> > > > > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > > > > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> > > > >
> > > > > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > > > > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward
> > calls
> > > > to
> > > > > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or
> should
> > it
> > > > > itself implement those modules?
> > > > > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > > > > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > > > > implementations?
> > > > > - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git
> > > magic)
> > > > > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip
> or
> > > > joke?
> > > > > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > > > > - Testing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > sosah.victor@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <kamrik@google.com
> >:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the
> > > > start.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on
> Thursday,
> > > > April
> > > > > > 17,
> > > > > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > > > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > > > > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+
> > PST
> > > is
> > > > > > Jesse
> > > > > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> This won't be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > > > > kamrik@google.com)
> > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <
> > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > > > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > > > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I
> > hope I
> > > > got
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > > > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that
> > we
> > > > > > publish
> > > > > > >>>> as
> > > > > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage
> deps)
> > > > > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> > > > > > extraction
> > > > > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > > > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> > > > cordova-lib
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > > > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for
> sharing)
> > > > > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib
> to
> > > more
> > > > > > >>>>> generally
> > > > > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > > > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules",
> > > > > "common".
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json
> > (published
> > > > as
> > > > > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> > > > > > >>> convention
> > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with
> "cordova-lib-*"
> > > and
> > > > > > >>>>> matching
> > > > > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> b@brian.io
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like
> this:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as
> cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > > > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > > > > >>> change/remove
> > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it
> > doesn't
> > > > work
> > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>> us
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top
> > level
> > > > npm
> > > > > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> > > > ../node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >>>>> still
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at
> > > dev/publish
> > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for
> > > > plugman
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the
> > > same
> > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and
> living
> > in
> > > > > > >>> same
> > > > > > >>>>> repo
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on
> > twitter
> > > > > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > b@brian.io>
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been
> > cheeky.
> > > > > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one
> > hour
> > > > > > >>>> window
> > > > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules
> right
> > > > > > >>> away
> > > > > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready
> > right
> > > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > > >>>>>> git
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some
> interesting
> > > > > > >>>>>> responses
> > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I
> think
> > > > > > >>>> it's
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if
> > you'd
> > > > > > >>>>> like
> > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky
> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > IBM Software Engineer
> > > > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>.
Thanks Steven!
I've added a proposal for a detailed plan on how to move forward at the bottom
of the doc<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit#heading=h.i5l8na3iys39>.
Please take a look and comment.
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks great!
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7596
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
> >
> > - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib repo.
> > - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian will
> use
> > git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman, importing
> > the full git history for each dir.
> > - We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch [TBD:
> > exactly how much can we remove]
> > - We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman [TBD:
> > same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
> > cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
> > - At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths just
> > changed a bit.
> > - Over time, we dedup and break out code from cordova-lib-cordova-cli and
> > cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
> > - At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only on
> > cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm modules, but
> > eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm module
> > entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
> > cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
> > - At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
> > cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated repos
> > (perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how to do
> > that..).
> >
> > Some open questions:
> > - How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release process
> > cordova-lib modules?
> > - How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that
> parses
> > input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls with
> > opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into the
> forms
> > cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
> > - Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an apache
> > release means pushing updated package.json deps?
> >
> > In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of this new
> > approach, we think, are:
> > - We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not just
> > plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc downstream
> > distributions).
> > - We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which is
> > easier to test and reason about.
> > - We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want is
> some
> > lib feature.
> >
> >
> > Anything else?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple
> repos:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Git Tags
> > > > > - Atomic commits
> > > > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> > > >
> > > > Also:
> > > > - Expectations from external contributors
> > > > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > > > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> > > >
> > > > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > > > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward
> calls
> > > to
> > > > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or should
> it
> > > > itself implement those modules?
> > > > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > > > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > > > implementations?
> > > > - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git
> > magic)
> > > > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip or
> > > joke?
> > > > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > > > - Testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> > > purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <
> sosah.victor@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the
> > > start.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday,
> > > April
> > > > > 17,
> > > > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > > > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+
> PST
> > is
> > > > > Jesse
> > > > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> This won't be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > > > kamrik@google.com)
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <
> > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I
> hope I
> > > got
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that
> we
> > > > > publish
> > > > > >>>> as
> > > > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > > > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> > > > > extraction
> > > > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> > > cordova-lib
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > > > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to
> > more
> > > > > >>>>> generally
> > > > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules",
> > > > "common".
> > > > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json
> (published
> > > as
> > > > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> > > > > >>> convention
> > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*"
> > and
> > > > > >>>>> matching
> > > > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > > > >>> change/remove
> > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it
> doesn't
> > > work
> > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>> us
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top
> level
> > > npm
> > > > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> > > ../node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >>>>> still
> > > > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at
> > dev/publish
> > > > > >>> time
> > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for
> > > plugman
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the
> > same
> > > > > >>> time
> > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living
> in
> > > > > >>> same
> > > > > >>>>> repo
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on
> twitter
> > > > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> b@brian.io>
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been
> cheeky.
> > > > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one
> hour
> > > > > >>>> window
> > > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
> > > > > >>> away
> > > > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready
> right
> > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > >>>>>> git
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > > > > >>>>>> responses
> > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> > > > > >>>> it's
> > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if
> you'd
> > > > > >>>>> like
> > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > IBM Software Engineer
> > > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
Looks great!
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7596
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
>
> - Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib repo.
> - We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian will use
> git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman, importing
> the full git history for each dir.
> - We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch [TBD:
> exactly how much can we remove]
> - We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman [TBD:
> same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
> cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
> - At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths just
> changed a bit.
> - Over time, we dedup and break out code from cordova-lib-cordova-cli and
> cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
> - At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only on
> cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm modules, but
> eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm module
> entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
> cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
> - At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
> cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated repos
> (perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how to do
> that..).
>
> Some open questions:
> - How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release process
> cordova-lib modules?
> - How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that parses
> input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls with
> opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into the forms
> cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
> - Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an apache
> release means pushing updated package.json deps?
>
> In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of this new
> approach, we think, are:
> - We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not just
> plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc downstream
> distributions).
> - We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which is
> easier to test and reason about.
> - We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want is some
> lib feature.
>
>
> Anything else?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple repos:
> > > >
> > > > - Git Tags
> > > > - Atomic commits
> > > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> > >
> > > Also:
> > > - Expectations from external contributors
> > > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> > >
> > > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward calls
> > to
> > > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or should it
> > > itself implement those modules?
> > > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > > implementations?
> > > - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git
> magic)
> > > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip or
> > joke?
> > > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > > - Testing
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> > purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the
> > start.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday,
> > April
> > > > 17,
> > > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > > >:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST
> is
> > > > Jesse
> > > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> This won't be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > > kamrik@google.com)
> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <
> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I
> > got
> > > > the
> > > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we
> > > > publish
> > > > >>>> as
> > > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> > > > extraction
> > > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> > cordova-lib
> > > > and
> > > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to
> more
> > > > >>>>> generally
> > > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules",
> > > "common".
> > > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published
> > as
> > > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> > > > >>> convention
> > > > >>>>> for
> > > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*"
> and
> > > > >>>>> matching
> > > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> {
> > > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > > >>>>>>> }
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > > >>> change/remove
> > > > >>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't
> > work
> > > > >>>> for
> > > > >>>>>> us
> > > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level
> > npm
> > > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> > ../node_modules/util_a
> > > > >>>>> still
> > > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at
> dev/publish
> > > > >>> time
> > > > >>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for
> > plugman
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the
> same
> > > > >>> time
> > > > >>>>> not
> > > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in
> > > > >>> same
> > > > >>>>> repo
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> > > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
> > > > >>>> window
> > > > >>>>>> open
> > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
> > > > >>> away
> > > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
> > > > >>>> after
> > > > >>>>>> git
> > > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>> for
> > > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > > > >>>>>> responses
> > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> > > > >>>> it's
> > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
> > > > >>>>> like
> > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > > >>> discuss
> > > > >>>> it
> > > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > IBM Software Engineer
> > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>.
Great showing, everyone. Here's a quick summary:
- Steve will file INFRA ticket to create a single new cordova-lib repo.
- We will create node_modules/ folder inside cordova-lib, and Ian will use
git magic to create two node modules: cordova-cli, and plugman, importing
the full git history for each dir.
- We will remove the CLI bits from cordova-lib as a secondary patch [TBD:
exactly how much can we remove]
- We will remove the cordova-lib bits from cordova-cli and plugman [TBD:
same question as above], updating the require() paths and adding
cordova-lib-cordova-cli and cordova-lib-plugman to npm deps.
- At this point, all the code should be 100% the same, the paths just
changed a bit.
- Over time, we dedup and break out code from cordova-lib-cordova-cli and
cordova-lib-plugman into dedicated npm modules.
- At first, cordova-cli and cordova-plugman continue to depend only on
cordova-lib, and cordova-lib interface routes to correct npm modules, but
eventually we refactor CLI's to directly consume the top-level npm module
entry points (i.e. perhaps like cordova-lib-project-create,
cordova-lib-plugin-publish)
- At that point, we can consider which npm modules are not really
cordova-lib, but really generic npm modules to live in dedicated repos
(perhaps even entirely outside of cordova project, but not sure how to do
that..).
Some open questions:
- How exactly are we going to version / tag / apache release process
cordova-lib modules?
- How much of CLI's stay in cli: is it a *really* dumb wrapper that parses
input in a generic fashion and turns it into dumb require() calls with
opt's? Or does it understand the full spec and massage opts into the forms
cordova-lib-* expect (both options have value!)
- Do CLI's have deps on specific versions of cordova-lib-*, so an apache
release means pushing updated package.json deps?
In case it isn't clear to everyone, some of the net benefits of this new
approach, we think, are:
- We have a saner model for code sharing between all the CLI (not just
plugman and cordova-cli, but also phonegap, cca, bb, ibm, etc downstream
distributions).
- We are not impeded by overhead to create a new npm module, which is
easier to test and reason about.
- We don't push any specific CLI binary onto users if all they want is some
lib feature.
Anything else?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
>
>
> 2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple repos:
> > >
> > > - Git Tags
> > > - Atomic commits
> > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
> >
> > Also:
> > - Expectations from external contributors
> > - Transitioning from what we have today
> > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
> >
> > And some specific questions to discuss today:
> > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward calls
> to
> > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or should it
> > itself implement those modules?
> > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> > implementations?
> > - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git magic)
> > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip or
> joke?
> > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> > - Testing
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <
> purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the
> start.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <
> sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday,
> April
> > > 17,
> > > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> > tommy@devgeeks.org
> > > >:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Cruel.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is
> > > Jesse
> > > >>>>> and Brian.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> - tommy
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> > kamrik@google.com)
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > > >>>> tomorrow
> > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I
> got
> > > the
> > > >>>>> time zones right).
> > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we
> > > publish
> > > >>>> as
> > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> > > extraction
> > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called
> cordova-lib
> > > and
> > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
> > > >>>>> generally
> > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Brian
> > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules",
> > "common".
> > > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published
> as
> > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> > > >>> convention
> > > >>>>> for
> > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
> > > >>>>> matching
> > > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> {
> > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > >>>>>>> }
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> {
> > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > >>>>>>> ..
> > > >>>>>>> }
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > >>>>>>>> etc
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > > >>> change/remove
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't
> work
> > > >>>> for
> > > >>>>>> us
> > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level
> npm
> > > >>>>>> pacakge
> > > >>>>>>> in
> > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link
> ../node_modules/util_a
> > > >>>>> still
> > > >>>>>>>> needs
> > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish
> > > >>> time
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for
> plugman
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same
> > > >>> time
> > > >>>>> not
> > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in
> > > >>> same
> > > >>>>> repo
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> > > >>>>>> interesting
> > > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
> > > >>>> window
> > > >>>>>> open
> > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
> > > >>> away
> > > >>>>>> sounds
> > > >>>>>>>>> very
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
> > > >>>> after
> > > >>>>>> git
> > > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> > > >>> Thanks
> > > >>>>> for
> > > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > >>> b@brian.io
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > > >>>>>> responses
> > > >>>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>> add
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> > > >>>> it's
> > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
> > > >>>>> like
> > > >>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > > >>> discuss
> > > >>>> it
> > > >>>>>>>> during
> > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> IBM Software Engineer
> Guadalajara, Jalisco
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>.
Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple repos:
> >
> > - Git Tags
> > - Atomic commits
> > - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
>
> Also:
> - Expectations from external contributors
> - Transitioning from what we have today
> - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
>
> And some specific questions to discuss today:
> - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward calls to
> dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or should it
> itself implement those modules?
> - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
> - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
> implementations?
> - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git magic)
> - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip or joke?
> - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
> - Testing
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <pu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the start.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <sosah.victor@gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April
> > 17,
> > >>>> 14:00 ET?
> > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <
> tommy@devgeeks.org
> > >:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Cruel.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is
> > Jesse
> > >>>>> and Brian.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> - tommy
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (
> kamrik@google.com)
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > >>>> tomorrow
> > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got
> > the
> > >>>>> time zones right).
> > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> For the calendars:
> > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we
> > publish
> > >>>> as
> > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> > extraction
> > >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib
> > and
> > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
> > >>>>> generally
> > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Brian
> > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules",
> "common".
> > >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> > >>> convention
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
> > >>>>> matching
> > >>>>>>> location within repo?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> {
> > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > >>>>>>> ..
> > >>>>>>> }
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> {
> > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > >>>>>>> ..
> > >>>>>>> }
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> plugman
> > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > >>>>>>>> etc
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> > >>> change/remove
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>>> us
> > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
> > >>>>>> pacakge
> > >>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> |cli
> > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>> if you have
> > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a
> > >>>>> still
> > >>>>>>>> needs
> > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish
> > >>> time
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same
> > >>> time
> > >>>>> not
> > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in
> > >>> same
> > >>>>> repo
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> > >>>>>> interesting
> > >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> > >>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
> > >>>> window
> > >>>>>> open
> > >>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
> > >>> away
> > >>>>>> sounds
> > >>>>>>>>> very
> > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
> > >>>> after
> > >>>>>> git
> > >>>>>>>>> clone;
> > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>> sharing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > >>> b@brian.io
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > >>>>>> responses
> > >>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> add
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> > >>>> it's
> > >>>>>>>> better
> > >>>>>>>>>> off
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
> > >>>>> like
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> > >>>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> > >>> discuss
> > >>>> it
> > >>>>>>>> during
> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> > >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > >> IBM Software Engineer
> > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> >
>
--
Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
IBM Software Engineer
Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>.
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple repos:
>
> - Git Tags
> - Atomic commits
> - Going back in time (checking out points in history)
> - Co-ordinating Pull Requests
Also:
- Expectations from external contributors
- Transitioning from what we have today
- Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module
And some specific questions to discuss today:
- should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward calls to
dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or should it
itself implement those modules?
- If we start with a single code repo for npm modules:
- do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just
implementations?
- How do we import module implementation and retain history (git magic)
- node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip or joke?
- name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm?
- Testing
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <pu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> > How can they not list time zones in the UI?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Great!! Thanks Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
> >>
> >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the start.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April
> 17,
> >>>> 14:00 ET?
> >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <tommy@devgeeks.org
> >:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Cruel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is
> Jesse
> >>>>> and Brian.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - tommy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik@google.com)
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> >>>> tomorrow
> >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got
> the
> >>>>> time zones right).
> >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the calendars:
> >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we
> publish
> >>>> as
> >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module
> extraction
> >>>>>> called cordova-lib
> >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib
> and
> >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
> >>>>> generally
> >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> >>> csantana23@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Brian
> >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
> >>>>>>> "common-lib"
> >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> >>> convention
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
> >>>>> matching
> >>>>>>> location within repo?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> >>>>>>> ..
> >>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
> >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> >>>>>>> ..
> >>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> plugman
> >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> cordova-cli
> >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> cordova-lib
> >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
> >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> >>>>>>>> etc
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> >>>> plugman/cordova-cli
> >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> >>> change/remove
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> us
> >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
> >>>>>> pacakge
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> |cli
> >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> >>>>>>>>> |plugman
> >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
> >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>> if you have
> >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a
> >>>>> still
> >>>>>>>> needs
> >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish
> >>> time
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same
> >>> time
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in
> >>> same
> >>>>> repo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> >>>>>> interesting
> >>>>>>>>> feedback.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> >>>>>>> (Suggesting
> >>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
> >>>> window
> >>>>>> open
> >>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> >>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
> >>> away
> >>>>>> sounds
> >>>>>>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
> >>>> after
> >>>>>> git
> >>>>>>>>> clone;
> >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> >>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> >>> Thanks
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> sharing
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> >>> b@brian.io
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> >>>>>> responses
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> add
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
> >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> >>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> >>>> it's
> >>>>>>>> better
> >>>>>>>>>> off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
> >>>>> like
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> >>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
> >>>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> >>> discuss
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>>> during
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> >>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Carlos Santana
> >>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> >>>> IBM Software Engineer
> >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> >> IBM Software Engineer
> >> Guadalajara, Jalisco
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple repos:
- Git Tags
- Atomic commits
- Going back in time (checking out points in history)
- Co-ordinating Pull Requests
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
> How can they not list time zones in the UI?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Great!! Thanks Mark
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
>>
>>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the start.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April 17,
>>>> 14:00 ET?
>>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Cruel.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse
>>>>> and Brian.
>>>>>
>>>>> This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
>>>>>
>>>>> - tommy
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik@google.com)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
>>>> tomorrow
>>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the
>>>>> time zones right).
>>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the calendars:
>>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
>>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish
>>>> as
>>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
>>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
>>>>>> called cordova-lib
>>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
>>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
>>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
>>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
>>>>> generally
>>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
>>> csantana23@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
>>>>>>> "common-lib"
>>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
>>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
>>> convention
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
>>>>> matching
>>>>>>> location within repo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
>>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
>>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> plugman
>>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cordova-cli
>>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cordova-lib
>>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
>>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
>>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
>>>> plugman/cordova-cli
>>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
>>> change/remove
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work
>>>> for
>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
>>>>>> pacakge
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> |cli
>>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
>>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>>> |plugman
>>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
>>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
>>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> if you have
>>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a
>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish
>>> time
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same
>>> time
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in
>>> same
>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Carlos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
>>>>>>> (Suggesting
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
>>>> window
>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
>>> away
>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
>>>> after
>>>>>> git
>>>>>>>>> clone;
>>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
>>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
>>> Thanks
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
>>> b@brian.io
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
>>>>>> responses
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
>>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
>>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
>>>>> like
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
>>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
>>> discuss
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
>>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
>>>> IBM Software Engineer
>>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
>> IBM Software Engineer
>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by purplecabbage <pu...@gmail.com>.
Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow.
How can they not list time zones in the UI?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great!! Thanks Mark
>
>
> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
>
>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the start.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April 17,
>>> 14:00 ET?
>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>:
>>>
>>>> Cruel.
>>>>
>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse
>>>> and Brian.
>>>>
>>>> This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
>>>>
>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
>>>>
>>>> - tommy
>>>>
>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik@google.com)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
>>> tomorrow
>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the
>>>> time zones right).
>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> For the calendars:
>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish
>>> as
>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
>>>>> called cordova-lib
>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
>>>> generally
>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
>> csantana23@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
>>>>>> "common-lib"
>>>>>> I think we are on the same page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
>> convention
>>>> for
>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
>>>> matching
>>>>>> location within repo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
>>>>>> ..
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1",
>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
>>>>>> ..
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> plugman
>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cordova-cli
>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cordova-lib
>>>>>>> |-plugin-install
>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
>>> plugman/cordova-cli
>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
>> change/remove
>>>> the
>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
>>>> csantana23@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work
>>> for
>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
>>>>> pacakge
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> |cli
>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>> |plugman
>>>>>>>> | '-package.json
>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> if you have
>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a
>>>> still
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish
>> time
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same
>> time
>>>> not
>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in
>> same
>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Carlos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
>>>>>> (Suggesting
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
>>> window
>>>>> open
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Thu. =(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
>>>>> kamrik@google.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
>> away
>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
>>> after
>>>>> git
>>>>>>>> clone;
>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
>>>>>> stevengill97@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
>> Thanks
>>>> for
>>>>>>>> sharing
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
>> b@brian.io
>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
>>>>> responses
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion:
>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
>>> it's
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
>>>> like
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
>>>>>>>>> kamrik@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal<
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
>> discuss
>>> it
>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana
>>>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Carlos Santana
>>>>>> <cs...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
>>> IBM Software Engineer
>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
>
>
>
> --
> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> IBM Software Engineer
> Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>.
Great!! Thanks Mark
2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>:
> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the start.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April 17,
> > 14:00 ET?
> > Who's going to send the hangout invite?
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>:
> >
> > > Cruel.
> > >
> > > The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse
> > > and Brian.
> > >
> > > This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> > >
> > > 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> > >
> > > - tommy
> > >
> > > On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik@google.com)
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> > tomorrow
> > > 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the
> > > time zones right).
> > > Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> > >
> > > For the calendars:
> > > Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > > Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > > >
> > > > 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish
> > as
> > > > discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > > > 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
> > > > called cordova-lib
> > > > 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
> > > > prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > > cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > > > 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
> > > generally
> > > > useful status and get their own git repos
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > > yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
> > > > > "common-lib"
> > > > > I think we are on the same page.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> > > > > cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > > >
> > > > > no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a
> convention
> > > for
> > > > > the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
> > > matching
> > > > > location within repo?
> > > > >
> > > > > {
> > > > > "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > > ..
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > {
> > > > > "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > > "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > > ..
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > plugman
> > > > > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cordova-cli
> > > > > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cordova-lib
> > > > > > |-plugin-install
> > > > > > | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> > plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we
> change/remove
> > > the
> > > > > > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work
> > for
> > > > us
> > > > > > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
> > > > pacakge
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the repo then its fine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > |cli
> > > > > > > | '-package.json
> > > > > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > |plugman
> > > > > > > | '-package.json
> > > > > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > > > plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > > cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > if you have
> > > > > > > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a
> > > still
> > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish
> time
> > > to
> > > > > > > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same
> time
> > > not
> > > > > > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in
> same
> > > repo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> > > > interesting
> > > > > > > feedback.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Carlos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > > > > (Suggesting
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
> > window
> > > > open
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > Thu. =(
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right
> away
> > > > sounds
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
> > after
> > > > git
> > > > > > > clone;
> > > > > > > > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > > stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet.
> Thanks
> > > for
> > > > > > > sharing
> > > > > > > > > > Brian!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> b@brian.io
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > > > responses
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > add
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > the discussion:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> > it's
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
> > > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > > > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's
> discuss
> > it
> > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> > IBM Software Engineer
> > Guadalajara, Jalisco
> >
>
--
Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
IBM Software Engineer
Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>.
I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the start.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April 17,
> 14:00 ET?
> Who's going to send the hangout invite?
>
>
> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>:
>
> > Cruel.
> >
> > The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse
> > and Brian.
> >
> > This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
> >
> > 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
> >
> > - tommy
> >
> > On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik@google.com)
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3>
> tomorrow
> > 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the
> > time zones right).
> > Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
> >
> > For the calendars:
> > Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> > Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> > >
> > > 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish
> as
> > > discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > > 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
> > > called cordova-lib
> > > 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
> > > prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > > cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > > 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
> > generally
> > > useful status and get their own git repos
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Brian
> > > > yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
> > > > "common-lib"
> > > > I think we are on the same page.
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> > > > cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > > >
> > > > no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention
> > for
> > > > the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
> > matching
> > > > location within repo?
> > > >
> > > > {
> > > > "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > > ..
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > {
> > > > "version": "0.0.1",
> > > > "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > > ..
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > plugman
> > > > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > >
> > > > > cordova-cli
> > > > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > > >
> > > > > cordova-lib
> > > > > |-plugin-install
> > > > > | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > > etc
> > > > >
> > > > > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and
> plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove
> > the
> > > > > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work
> for
> > > us
> > > > > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
> > > pacakge
> > > > in
> > > > > > the repo then its fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > |cli
> > > > > > | '-package.json
> > > > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > |plugman
> > > > > > | '-package.json
> > > > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > > plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > > cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > if you have
> > > > > > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a
> > still
> > > > > needs
> > > > > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time
> > to
> > > > > > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time
> > not
> > > > > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same
> > repo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> > > interesting
> > > > > > feedback.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Carlos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > > > (Suggesting
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour
> window
> > > open
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > Thu. =(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away
> > > sounds
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right
> after
> > > git
> > > > > > clone;
> > > > > > > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > > stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks
> > for
> > > > > > sharing
> > > > > > > > > Brian!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > > responses
> > > > to
> > > > > > add
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > the discussion:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think
> it's
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
> > like
> > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss
> it
> > > > > during
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
> IBM Software Engineer
> Guadalajara, Jalisco
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Victor Sosa <so...@gmail.com>.
Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April 17,
14:00 ET?
Who's going to send the hangout invite?
2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>:
> Cruel.
>
> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse
> and Brian.
>
> This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
>
> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
>
> - tommy
>
> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik@google.com) wrote:
>
> Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3> tomorrow
> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the
> time zones right).
> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
>
> For the calendars:
> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
> >
> > 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish as
> > discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> > 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
> > called cordova-lib
> > 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
> > prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> > cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> > 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more
> generally
> > useful status and get their own git repos
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Brian
> > > yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
> > > "common-lib"
> > > I think we are on the same page.
> > >
> > > What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> > > cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> > >
> > > no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention
> for
> > > the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and
> matching
> > > location within repo?
> > >
> > > {
> > > "version": "0.0.1",
> > > "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > > ..
> > > }
> > >
> > > {
> > > "version": "0.0.1",
> > > "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > > ..
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > > >
> > > > plugman
> > > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > >
> > > > cordova-cli
> > > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > > >
> > > > cordova-lib
> > > > |-plugin-install
> > > > | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > > etc
> > > >
> > > > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-cli
> > > > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove
> the
> > > > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for
> > us
> > > > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
> > pacakge
> > > in
> > > > > the repo then its fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > |cli
> > > > > | '-package.json
> > > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > > |plugman
> > > > > | '-package.json
> > > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > >
> > > > > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > > plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > > cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > > >
> > > > > or
> > > > > if you have
> > > > > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a
> still
> > > > needs
> > > > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > > >
> > > > > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time
> to
> > > > > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> > > > >
> > > > > Or maybe I missed something.
> > > > >
> > > > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time
> not
> > > > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same
> repo
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> > interesting
> > > > > feedback.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Carlos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > > (Suggesting
> > > > we
> > > > > > use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window
> > open
> > > > on
> > > > > > Thu. =(
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > kamrik@google.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away
> > sounds
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after
> > git
> > > > > clone;
> > > > > > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > > stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks
> for
> > > > > sharing
> > > > > > > > Brian!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> > responses
> > > to
> > > > > add
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > the discussion:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's
> > > > better
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd
> like
> > to
> > > > > > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it
> > > > during
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Santana
> > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > >
> >
>
>
--
Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
IBM Software Engineer
Guadalajara, Jalisco
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by tommy-carlos williams <to...@devgeeks.org>.
Cruel.
The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse and Brian.
This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)
4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?
- tommy
On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik@google.com) wrote:
Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3> tomorrow
14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the
time zones right).
Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
For the calendars:
Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
>
> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish as
> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
> called cordova-lib
> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more generally
> useful status and get their own git repos
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Brian
> > yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
> > "common-lib"
> > I think we are on the same page.
> >
> > What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> > cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> >
> > no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention for
> > the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and matching
> > location within repo?
> >
> > {
> > "version": "0.0.1",
> > "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > ..
> > }
> >
> > {
> > "version": "0.0.1",
> > "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > ..
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > >
> > > plugman
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > >
> > > cordova-cli
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > >
> > > cordova-lib
> > > |-plugin-install
> > > | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > etc
> > >
> > > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-cli
> > > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove the
> > > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for
> us
> > > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
> pacakge
> > in
> > > > the repo then its fine.
> > > >
> > > > |cli
> > > > | '-package.json
> > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > |plugman
> > > > | '-package.json
> > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > >
> > > > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > > if you have
> > > > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a still
> > > needs
> > > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > >
> > > > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time to
> > > > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> > > >
> > > > Or maybe I missed something.
> > > >
> > > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time not
> > > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same repo
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> interesting
> > > > feedback.
> > > >
> > > > --Carlos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > (Suggesting
> > > we
> > > > > use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window
> open
> > > on
> > > > > Thu. =(
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> kamrik@google.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away
> sounds
> > > > very
> > > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after
> git
> > > > clone;
> > > > > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for
> > > > sharing
> > > > > > > Brian!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> responses
> > to
> > > > add
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the discussion:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's
> > > better
> > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like
> to
> > > > > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it
> > > during
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Santana
> > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>.
Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3> tomorrow
14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the
time zones right).
Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.
For the calendars:
Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET
Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
>
> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish as
> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
> called cordova-lib
> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more generally
> useful status and get their own git repos
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Brian
> > yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
> > "common-lib"
> > I think we are on the same page.
> >
> > What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> > cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
> >
> > no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention for
> > the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and matching
> > location within repo?
> >
> > {
> > "version": "0.0.1",
> > "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> > ..
> > }
> >
> > {
> > "version": "0.0.1",
> > "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> > ..
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> > >
> > > plugman
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > >
> > > cordova-cli
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> > >
> > > cordova-lib
> > > |-plugin-install
> > > | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > > etc
> > >
> > > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-cli
> > > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove the
> > > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for
> us
> > > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm
> pacakge
> > in
> > > > the repo then its fine.
> > > >
> > > > |cli
> > > > | '-package.json
> > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > > |plugman
> > > > | '-package.json
> > > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > >
> > > > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > > plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > > cli/node_modules/util_a
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > > if you have
> > > > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a still
> > > needs
> > > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > > >
> > > > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time to
> > > > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> > > >
> > > > Or maybe I missed something.
> > > >
> > > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time not
> > > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same repo
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter
> interesting
> > > > feedback.
> > > >
> > > > --Carlos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> > (Suggesting
> > > we
> > > > > use npm to manage deps.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window
> open
> > > on
> > > > > Thu. =(
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> kamrik@google.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away
> sounds
> > > > very
> > > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after
> git
> > > > clone;
> > > > > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> > stevengill97@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for
> > > > sharing
> > > > > > > Brian!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting
> responses
> > to
> > > > add
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the discussion:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's
> > > better
> > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like
> to
> > > > > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it
> > > during
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Santana
> > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
To clear up my intent, I'm proposing
1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish as
discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)
2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction
called cordova-lib
3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and
prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example
cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)
4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more generally
useful status and get their own git repos
Thoughts?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Brian
> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
> "common-lib"
> I think we are on the same page.
>
> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
> cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
>
> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention for
> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and matching
> location within repo?
>
> {
> "version": "0.0.1",
> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
> ..
> }
>
> {
> "version": "0.0.1",
> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
> ..
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
> >
> > plugman
> > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> >
> > cordova-cli
> > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
> >
> > cordova-lib
> > |-plugin-install
> > | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> > etc
> >
> > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-cli
> > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove the
> > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for us
> > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm pacakge
> in
> > > the repo then its fine.
> > >
> > > |cli
> > > | '-package.json
> > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > > |plugman
> > > | '-package.json
> > > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > >
> > > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > > plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > > cli/node_modules/util_a
> > >
> > > or
> > > if you have
> > > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a still
> > needs
> > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> > >
> > > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time to
> > > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> > >
> > > Or maybe I missed something.
> > >
> > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time not
> > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same repo
> > >
> > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter interesting
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > > --Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.
> (Suggesting
> > we
> > > > use npm to manage deps.)
> > > >
> > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window open
> > on
> > > > Thu. =(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <kamrik@google.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away sounds
> > > very
> > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after git
> > > clone;
> > > > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > > > >
> > > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <
> stevengill97@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for
> > > sharing
> > > > > > Brian!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses
> to
> > > add
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > the discussion:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <agrieve@chromium.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's
> > better
> > > > off
> > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> > > > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it
> > during
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Santana
> > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Santana
> <cs...@gmail.com>
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
Brian
yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".
"common-lib"
I think we are on the same page.
What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as
cordova-lib-plugin-install)"
no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention for
the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and matching
location within repo?
{
"version": "0.0.1",
"name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",
..
}
{
"version": "0.0.1",
"name": "cordova-lib-util-a",
..
}
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
>
> plugman
> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
>
> cordova-cli
> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
>
> cordova-lib
> |-plugin-install
> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
> etc
>
> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-cli
> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove the
> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for us
> > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm pacakge in
> > the repo then its fine.
> >
> > |cli
> > | '-package.json
> > | '-node_modules/util_a
> > |plugman
> > | '-package.json
> > | '-node_modules/util_a
> >
> > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> > plugman/node_modules/util_a
> > cli/node_modules/util_a
> >
> > or
> > if you have
> > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a still
> needs
> > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
> >
> > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time to
> > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
> >
> > Or maybe I missed something.
> >
> > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time not
> > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same repo
> >
> > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter interesting
> > feedback.
> >
> > --Carlos
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky. (Suggesting
> we
> > > use npm to manage deps.)
> > >
> > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window open
> on
> > > Thu. =(
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away sounds
> > very
> > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after git
> > clone;
> > > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > > >
> > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for
> > sharing
> > > > > Brian!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses to
> > add
> > > > to
> > > > > > the discussion:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's
> better
> > > off
> > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> > > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > > kamrik@google.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it
> during
> > > the
> > > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Santana
> > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >
>
--
Carlos Santana
<cs...@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:
plugman
'-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
cordova-cli
'-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install
cordova-lib
|-plugin-install
| '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)
etc
Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-cli
become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove the
already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for us
> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm pacakge in
> the repo then its fine.
>
> |cli
> | '-package.json
> | '-node_modules/util_a
> |plugman
> | '-package.json
> | '-node_modules/util_a
>
> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
> plugman/node_modules/util_a
> cli/node_modules/util_a
>
> or
> if you have
> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a still needs
> to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
>
> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time to
> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
>
> Or maybe I missed something.
>
> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time not
> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same repo
>
> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter interesting
> feedback.
>
> --Carlos
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky. (Suggesting we
> > use npm to manage deps.)
> >
> > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window open on
> > Thu. =(
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away sounds
> very
> > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after git
> clone;
> > > npm install with no extra magic.
> > >
> > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for
> sharing
> > > > Brian!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses to
> add
> > > to
> > > > > the discussion:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > > >
> > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's better
> > off
> > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> > > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> > kamrik@google.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during
> > the
> > > > > > hangout
> > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Santana
> <cs...@gmail.com>
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for us
since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm pacakge in
the repo then its fine.
|cli
| '-package.json
| '-node_modules/util_a
|plugman
| '-package.json
| '-node_modules/util_a
means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo
plugman/node_modules/util_a
cli/node_modules/util_a
or
if you have
node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a still needs
to be done for cli and plugman node modules.
that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time to
populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman
Or maybe I missed something.
The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time not
necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same repo
Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter interesting
feedback.
--Carlos
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky. (Suggesting we
> use npm to manage deps.)
>
> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window open on
> Thu. =(
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away sounds very
> > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after git clone;
> > npm install with no extra magic.
> >
> > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for sharing
> > > Brian!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses to add
> > to
> > > > the discussion:
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > > >
> > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's better
> off
> > > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > > >
> > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> > > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <
> kamrik@google.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > A short proposal<
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during
> the
> > > > > hangout
> > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Carlos Santana
<cs...@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky. (Suggesting we
use npm to manage deps.)
Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window open on
Thu. =(
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com> wrote:
> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away sounds very
> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after git clone;
> npm install with no extra magic.
>
> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for sharing
> > Brian!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> > >
> > >
> > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses to add
> to
> > > the discussion:
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> > >
> > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's better off
> > > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > > >
> > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > >
> > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <kamrik@google.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > A short proposal<
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during the
> > > > hangout
> > > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>.
The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away sounds very
useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after git clone;
npm install with no extra magic.
This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for sharing
> Brian!
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
> >
> >
> > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses to add to
> > the discussion:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
> >
> > (Nothing really negative or positive.)
> >
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's better off
> > > as its own hangout anyways.
> > >
> > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> > > participate in the discussion.
> > >
> > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > A short proposal<
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > > >
> > > > for
> > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during the
> > > hangout
> > > > today. Feel free to comment.
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for sharing
Brian!
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
>
>
> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses to add to
> the discussion:
>
> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
>
> (Nothing really negative or positive.)
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's better off
> > as its own hangout anyways.
> >
> > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> > participate in the discussion.
> >
> > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>
> > wrote:
> > > A short proposal<
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> > >
> > > for
> > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during the
> > hangout
> > > today. Feel free to comment.
> >
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?
I asked around for opinions and got some interesting responses to add to
the discussion:
https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312
(Nothing really negative or positive.)
On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's better off
> as its own hangout anyways.
>
> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
> participate in the discussion.
>
> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com>
> wrote:
> > A short proposal<
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
> >
> > for
> > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during the
> hangout
> > today. Feel free to comment.
>
Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's better off
as its own hangout anyways.
Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like to
participate in the discussion.
http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <ka...@google.com> wrote:
> A short proposal<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit>
> for
> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it during the hangout
> today. Feel free to comment.