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[TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Hi *,
I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
Especially I would be interested in:
- file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
- including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
(obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
- serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's RI, right?
regards,
Martin
Re: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by Simon Lessard <si...@gmail.com>.
Hello Martin,
Our two portlets experts for Trinidad are Jeanne Waldman and Scott O'Brian.
Personally I did not work with portlets and the features you're mentioning
so I cannot really answer them except maybe the "including the
script/style-elements in the header of the page" part. I think I saw a patch
about that, allowing the portal to include a special parameter in the
portlet request that tell it to not compress its skin selectors. As a
result, the portal can be in charge of defining the look of its portlets,
which is prety cool imho. I don't know about the script however, but I think
you have to inline them in the body... even if this is against HTML
4.01Strict I think.
Regards,
~ Simon
Re: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
@Scott: If there is any link to some documentation somewhere - could
you possibly send this link over to me? I'd take care of interlinking
this documentation better with the Trinidad website then.
regards,
Martin
On 5/29/07, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jeanne,
>
> that all sounds as if Trinidad should basically work in portlets
> without special ado? How would the resources be loaded in portlets?
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 5/28/07, Jeanne Waldman <je...@oracle.com> wrote:
> > Scott O'Bryan is working on the aspects of portals that you are asking
> > about.
> >
> > I am working on the skinning piece, that is, when we are inside a portal
> > we output the
> > portal styleclasses where we can. portlet-form-field, etc.
> >
> > Also, there is a feature we are working on
> > where the portal container "the consumer" can tell the portlet
> > "the producer" that it wants it to use a particular skin, like
> > purple.desktop.
> > The use case is when the consumer is using the purple.desktop skin and
> > it wants all the
> > producers to use the same skin (instead of the very plain portlet skin)
> > if possible so that they will have the same look.
> >
> > I know we run our urls through an encoder, but I don't know how they are
> > being
> > encoded exactly.
> >
> > I'll forward your question on to Scott in case he hasn't seen it and he can
> > answer your questions.
> >
> > - Jeanne
> >
> > Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > > yeah, well. It would be great to hear from some Trinidad team members
> > > - I do think I could adapt the tomahawk-portlet-bridge to Trinidad,
> > > but I'd just love to know if there exists one or not.
> > >
> > > I'll try on the dev-list, if nothing happens the next few days.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 5/25/07, Alexander Wallace <aw...@rwmotloc.com> wrote:
> > >> there is a tomahawk bridge, that cares about those... it doesn't mean
> > >> all components work with no issues, but some do... right now the tab
> > >> pane is behaving wierd sometimes... I ignore if the same bridge could
> > >> be used with trinidad tho...
> > >>
> > >> On May 25, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Yes, well - do they take care about resource-loading so that it works
> > >> > with Trinidad?
> > >> >
> > >> > regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Martin
> > >> >
> > >> > On 5/25/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
> > >> > <al...@credit-suisse.com> wrote:
> > >> >> Don't know about Trinidad..., but
> > >> >>
> > >> >> portlet-bridges:
> > >> >> there are quite a few bridges, namely:
> > >> >> - Sun: <https://jsfportletbridge.dev.java.net/>
> > >> >> - Apache:
> > >> >> <http://portals.apache.org/bridges/multiproject/portals-bridges-
> > >> >> jsf/inde
> > >> >> x.html>
> > >> >> Samples use MyFaces
> > >> >>
> > >> >> hth
> > >> >> Alexander
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
> > >> >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:16 AM
> > >> >> To: MyFaces Discussion
> > >> >> Subject: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hi *,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
> > >> >> haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
> > >> >> anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
> > >> >> Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Especially I would be interested in:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
> > >> >> - including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
> > >> >> (obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
> > >> >> - serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
> > >> >> that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's
> > >> >> RI, right?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> regards,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Martin
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.irian.at
> > >> >
> > >> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > >> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > >> > Courses in English and German
> > >> >
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> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
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JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
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Re: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jeanne,
that all sounds as if Trinidad should basically work in portlets
without special ado? How would the resources be loaded in portlets?
regards,
Martin
On 5/28/07, Jeanne Waldman <je...@oracle.com> wrote:
> Scott O'Bryan is working on the aspects of portals that you are asking
> about.
>
> I am working on the skinning piece, that is, when we are inside a portal
> we output the
> portal styleclasses where we can. portlet-form-field, etc.
>
> Also, there is a feature we are working on
> where the portal container "the consumer" can tell the portlet
> "the producer" that it wants it to use a particular skin, like
> purple.desktop.
> The use case is when the consumer is using the purple.desktop skin and
> it wants all the
> producers to use the same skin (instead of the very plain portlet skin)
> if possible so that they will have the same look.
>
> I know we run our urls through an encoder, but I don't know how they are
> being
> encoded exactly.
>
> I'll forward your question on to Scott in case he hasn't seen it and he can
> answer your questions.
>
> - Jeanne
>
> Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > yeah, well. It would be great to hear from some Trinidad team members
> > - I do think I could adapt the tomahawk-portlet-bridge to Trinidad,
> > but I'd just love to know if there exists one or not.
> >
> > I'll try on the dev-list, if nothing happens the next few days.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 5/25/07, Alexander Wallace <aw...@rwmotloc.com> wrote:
> >> there is a tomahawk bridge, that cares about those... it doesn't mean
> >> all components work with no issues, but some do... right now the tab
> >> pane is behaving wierd sometimes... I ignore if the same bridge could
> >> be used with trinidad tho...
> >>
> >> On May 25, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes, well - do they take care about resource-loading so that it works
> >> > with Trinidad?
> >> >
> >> > regards,
> >> >
> >> > Martin
> >> >
> >> > On 5/25/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
> >> > <al...@credit-suisse.com> wrote:
> >> >> Don't know about Trinidad..., but
> >> >>
> >> >> portlet-bridges:
> >> >> there are quite a few bridges, namely:
> >> >> - Sun: <https://jsfportletbridge.dev.java.net/>
> >> >> - Apache:
> >> >> <http://portals.apache.org/bridges/multiproject/portals-bridges-
> >> >> jsf/inde
> >> >> x.html>
> >> >> Samples use MyFaces
> >> >>
> >> >> hth
> >> >> Alexander
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:16 AM
> >> >> To: MyFaces Discussion
> >> >> Subject: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi *,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
> >> >> haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
> >> >> anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
> >> >> Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
> >> >>
> >> >> Especially I would be interested in:
> >> >>
> >> >> - file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
> >> >> - including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
> >> >> (obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
> >> >> - serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
> >> >> that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
> >> >>
> >> >> I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's
> >> >> RI, right?
> >> >>
> >> >> regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Martin
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > http://www.irian.at
> >> >
> >> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> >> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> >> > Courses in English and German
> >> >
> >> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
--
http://www.irian.at
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JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
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Re: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by Jeanne Waldman <je...@oracle.com>.
Scott O'Bryan is working on the aspects of portals that you are asking
about.
I am working on the skinning piece, that is, when we are inside a portal
we output the
portal styleclasses where we can. portlet-form-field, etc.
Also, there is a feature we are working on
where the portal container "the consumer" can tell the portlet
"the producer" that it wants it to use a particular skin, like
purple.desktop.
The use case is when the consumer is using the purple.desktop skin and
it wants all the
producers to use the same skin (instead of the very plain portlet skin)
if possible so that they will have the same look.
I know we run our urls through an encoder, but I don't know how they are
being
encoded exactly.
I'll forward your question on to Scott in case he hasn't seen it and he can
answer your questions.
- Jeanne
Martin Marinschek wrote:
> yeah, well. It would be great to hear from some Trinidad team members
> - I do think I could adapt the tomahawk-portlet-bridge to Trinidad,
> but I'd just love to know if there exists one or not.
>
> I'll try on the dev-list, if nothing happens the next few days.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 5/25/07, Alexander Wallace <aw...@rwmotloc.com> wrote:
>> there is a tomahawk bridge, that cares about those... it doesn't mean
>> all components work with no issues, but some do... right now the tab
>> pane is behaving wierd sometimes... I ignore if the same bridge could
>> be used with trinidad tho...
>>
>> On May 25, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Martin Marinschek wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, well - do they take care about resource-loading so that it works
>> > with Trinidad?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > On 5/25/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
>> > <al...@credit-suisse.com> wrote:
>> >> Don't know about Trinidad..., but
>> >>
>> >> portlet-bridges:
>> >> there are quite a few bridges, namely:
>> >> - Sun: <https://jsfportletbridge.dev.java.net/>
>> >> - Apache:
>> >> <http://portals.apache.org/bridges/multiproject/portals-bridges-
>> >> jsf/inde
>> >> x.html>
>> >> Samples use MyFaces
>> >>
>> >> hth
>> >> Alexander
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:16 AM
>> >> To: MyFaces Discussion
>> >> Subject: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
>> >>
>> >> Hi *,
>> >>
>> >> I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
>> >> haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
>> >> anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
>> >> Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
>> >>
>> >> Especially I would be interested in:
>> >>
>> >> - file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
>> >> - including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
>> >> (obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
>> >> - serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
>> >> that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
>> >>
>> >> I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's
>> >> RI, right?
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >>
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > http://www.irian.at
>> >
>> > Your JSF powerhouse -
>> > JSF Consulting, Development and
>> > Courses in English and German
>> >
>> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
yeah, well. It would be great to hear from some Trinidad team members
- I do think I could adapt the tomahawk-portlet-bridge to Trinidad,
but I'd just love to know if there exists one or not.
I'll try on the dev-list, if nothing happens the next few days.
regards,
Martin
On 5/25/07, Alexander Wallace <aw...@rwmotloc.com> wrote:
> there is a tomahawk bridge, that cares about those... it doesn't mean
> all components work with no issues, but some do... right now the tab
> pane is behaving wierd sometimes... I ignore if the same bridge could
> be used with trinidad tho...
>
> On May 25, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Martin Marinschek wrote:
>
> > Yes, well - do they take care about resource-loading so that it works
> > with Trinidad?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 5/25/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
> > <al...@credit-suisse.com> wrote:
> >> Don't know about Trinidad..., but
> >>
> >> portlet-bridges:
> >> there are quite a few bridges, namely:
> >> - Sun: <https://jsfportletbridge.dev.java.net/>
> >> - Apache:
> >> <http://portals.apache.org/bridges/multiproject/portals-bridges-
> >> jsf/inde
> >> x.html>
> >> Samples use MyFaces
> >>
> >> hth
> >> Alexander
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:16 AM
> >> To: MyFaces Discussion
> >> Subject: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
> >>
> >> Hi *,
> >>
> >> I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
> >> haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
> >> anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
> >> Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
> >>
> >> Especially I would be interested in:
> >>
> >> - file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
> >> - including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
> >> (obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
> >> - serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
> >> that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
> >>
> >> I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's
> >> RI, right?
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by Alexander Wallace <aw...@rwmotloc.com>.
there is a tomahawk bridge, that cares about those... it doesn't mean
all components work with no issues, but some do... right now the tab
pane is behaving wierd sometimes... I ignore if the same bridge could
be used with trinidad tho...
On May 25, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> Yes, well - do they take care about resource-loading so that it works
> with Trinidad?
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 5/25/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
> <al...@credit-suisse.com> wrote:
>> Don't know about Trinidad..., but
>>
>> portlet-bridges:
>> there are quite a few bridges, namely:
>> - Sun: <https://jsfportletbridge.dev.java.net/>
>> - Apache:
>> <http://portals.apache.org/bridges/multiproject/portals-bridges-
>> jsf/inde
>> x.html>
>> Samples use MyFaces
>>
>> hth
>> Alexander
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:16 AM
>> To: MyFaces Discussion
>> Subject: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
>>
>> Hi *,
>>
>> I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
>> haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
>> anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
>> Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
>>
>> Especially I would be interested in:
>>
>> - file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
>> - including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
>> (obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
>> - serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
>> that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
>>
>> I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's
>> RI, right?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
Re: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Yes, well - do they take care about resource-loading so that it works
with Trinidad?
regards,
Martin
On 5/25/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)
<al...@credit-suisse.com> wrote:
> Don't know about Trinidad..., but
>
> portlet-bridges:
> there are quite a few bridges, namely:
> - Sun: <https://jsfportletbridge.dev.java.net/>
> - Apache:
> <http://portals.apache.org/bridges/multiproject/portals-bridges-jsf/inde
> x.html>
> Samples use MyFaces
>
> hth
> Alexander
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:16 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
>
> Hi *,
>
> I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
> haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
> anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
> Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
>
> Especially I would be interested in:
>
> - file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
> - including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
> (obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
> - serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
> that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
>
> I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's
> RI, right?
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
RE: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Posted by "Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)" <al...@credit-suisse.com>.
Don't know about Trinidad..., but
portlet-bridges:
there are quite a few bridges, namely:
- Sun: <https://jsfportletbridge.dev.java.net/>
- Apache:
<http://portals.apache.org/bridges/multiproject/portals-bridges-jsf/inde
x.html>
Samples use MyFaces
hth
Alexander
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 11:16 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: [TRINIDAD] Portlets and Trinidad
Hi *,
I have skimmed through the online documentation for Trinidad, but
haven't found anything useful about portlet compatibility. Is there
anyone in the Trinidad team who knows more about using portlets with
Trinidad, and can provide a link to more information?
Especially I would be interested in:
- file-upload - how's that handled in portlets?
- including the script/style-elements in the header of the page
(obviously, tr:document won't help in a portlet environment, right?)
- serving out resources with the resources servlet/filter (it's clear
that neither one will work in a portlet environment)
I've heard about some jsf-portlet-bridge helping out here, but that's
RI, right?
regards,
Martin