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Posted to rivet-dev@tcl.apache.org by Michael Link <ml...@synthemesc.com> on 2005/10/13 17:30:44 UTC
Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Pedro Guillem" <pm...@bayesinf.com>
> Date: October 13, 2005 5:05:04 AM CDT
> To: <ml...@apache.org>
> Subject: Rivet/Tk
>
>
> Hello Michael.
>
> Before i say anything, receive my most sincere congratulations for
> the developement of Rivet.
>
> My name is Pedro Guillem,
>
> I work as a Junior Programmer for Bayes Forecast, a Business
> Intelligence consutant in Madrid, Spain.
> We work to imporoove our open source project named TOL (Time
> Oriented Language) www.tol-project.org
> which's core was coded in C++. I kindly encourage you to visit the
> web for more details and specs.
> Feel free to get our daily compile from our CVS.
>
> The visuals of our software has a strong Tcl and Tk basis, for this
> reason, we dediced to implement Rivet to port a
> web user interface. No need to rebuild the whole Tcl cake, you know
> what i mean.
> We impressed ourselves when we saw Rivet succesfully loading our
> custom made packages. amazing work.
>
> Out own tcl widgets (toltcl packages) work like a charm with rivet,
> for obvious reasons, there is no way of opening a tk console
> to display visuals from a server side generated page... it wouldnt
> make any sense. still.. we have a lot of work already
> developed to display all the graphical interface using tk.
>
> We figured we couldnt achieve half the realiability by spitting
> "tcl puts" with html code in it. And less possible, display
> Stochastical
> Graphs ...
>
> My question is:
> Does rivet implements or will implement some kind of tk/html
> parsing extension?. kind of like php/tk ??
> This way all the tk coded visuals could swim into html, at least
> the basic ones. Is there any method of parsing tk visuals over Rivet?.
>
> I know this is kind of unethical, but nobody seems to speak about
> this and i taught in asking the source.
> I appreciate your time, effort, and any help you could provide to
> your open source compliant spanish companions!! :-)
>
> Best Regards
>
> Pedro Manuel Guillem
> S&S
> Bayes Forecast
> Madrid - Spain
>
> PS: We would are grateful to contribute and promote the use of
> rivet technology.
>
Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by "David N. Welton" <da...@dedasys.com>.
Pedro Guillem wrote:
> Hello David
>
> I belive can start translating the manual.
> You mentioned on an early mailing list that the version availiable in the
> sub version was a little more up to date. Could you Explain briefly how to
> get the doc using this method?
svn co http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tcl/rivet/trunk tcl-rivet
will check out a copy of Rivet in tcl-rivet.
the docs are in doc/
BTW, if you want to do other stuff instead of translating to help out,
that's welcome too, and perhaps a little bit less involved than
translating a big DocBook document. For instance, looking over the
english version of the manual to see if (where!) it could be improved -
I wrote a lot of it myself, and since I know Rivet pretty well,
sometimes it's difficult to think about things from the point of view of
someone who doesn't know it as well.
Thanks,
--
David N. Welton
- http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
Linux, Open Source Consulting
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Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by Pedro Guillem <pm...@bayesinf.com>.
Hello David
I belive can start translating the manual.
You mentioned on an early mailing list that the version availiable in the
sub version was a little more up to date. Could you Explain briefly how to
get the doc using this method?
Thanx in advance
Pedro Guillem
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Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by Pedro Guillem <pm...@bayesinf.com>.
Looks like we all take the cofee at the same time in Europe!
Have great Monday.
Regards
Pedro
----- Original Message -----
From: "David N. Welton" <da...@dedasys.com>
To: "Pedro Guillem" <pm...@bayesinf.com>
Cc: <rc...@bayesinf.com>; <rk...@psislidell.com>; <ml...@synthemesc.com>;
<ri...@tcl.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
> Pedro Guillem wrote:
> > Hello David and Roy.
> > Thank you for the quick response!. (too Quick if i may add :-D )
>
> > I went thru Roy's code and as you warned, it's really close to what we
were
> > looking for, that being, a way to implement
> > tk code at server side for web-enambling the GUI of our tcl app.
> > We will add some some lines, and then we'll mail it back or put it in
the
> > Rivet CVS (if Roy agrees, offcourse).
> > Thank you Very much!. we promise it will be handled as a special guest
by
> > our hads ;-).
>
> Well, to add this stuff to the Rivet repository, we'd need a few forms
> filled out for the Apache Software Foundation, but perhaps it's best to
> wait and see if it comes to fruition before bothering with the
> beaurocracy...
>
> > Yes, i mentioned php/tk as an example of the kind of bind which would be
> > really useful to have in Rivet in order to implement Web-tk code
> > or make basic tk widgets availiable in web pages. I heard (not seen)
that
> > Websh can do some of this... (ej. mind game example at Websh page).
>
> PHP Tk has nothing to do with the web. It does not display Tk widgets
> on the web, but on your local display.
>
> > Still, we all know a TCL application server, or a way of Web enambling
Tcl
> > appz (besides the tcl-plugin) is far away from hitting the road.
> > (would be an interesting project thou... some kind of Jboss in TCL...if
you
> > ever taught about it, count me in).
> >
> > We went over the TCL plugin a couple of weeks ago and found out it was
> > somehow insecure for DB issues
> > (since all the conns had to originate from client side). Also, the way
> > security policies apply suggest creating a custom plugin-pack
> > to be distributed to the users (among with the needed tcl packages,
since
> > nothing would be executed at server side).
> >
> > As for the Castellano translation of the Rivet Manual, i'd be glad to
help
> > :-).
> > I will take the availiable version of the manual from the web and start
> > translating asap, work is allways good when u like what you do ;-).
>
> Be sure to get the manual from subversion, as that's more recent than
> what's on the web. If you need instructions on how to use subversion,
> let me know...
>
> > A channel to the dev-team would be nice, it'll sing up right away to the
> > Rivet-dev mail.
>
> Great, welcome:-)
> --
> David N. Welton
> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>
> Linux, Open Source Consulting
> - http://www.dedasys.com/
>
>
>
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Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by "David N. Welton" <da...@dedasys.com>.
Pedro Guillem wrote:
> Hello David and Roy.
> Thank you for the quick response!. (too Quick if i may add :-D )
> I went thru Roy's code and as you warned, it's really close to what we were
> looking for, that being, a way to implement
> tk code at server side for web-enambling the GUI of our tcl app.
> We will add some some lines, and then we'll mail it back or put it in the
> Rivet CVS (if Roy agrees, offcourse).
> Thank you Very much!. we promise it will be handled as a special guest by
> our hads ;-).
Well, to add this stuff to the Rivet repository, we'd need a few forms
filled out for the Apache Software Foundation, but perhaps it's best to
wait and see if it comes to fruition before bothering with the
beaurocracy...
> Yes, i mentioned php/tk as an example of the kind of bind which would be
> really useful to have in Rivet in order to implement Web-tk code
> or make basic tk widgets availiable in web pages. I heard (not seen) that
> Websh can do some of this... (ej. mind game example at Websh page).
PHP Tk has nothing to do with the web. It does not display Tk widgets
on the web, but on your local display.
> Still, we all know a TCL application server, or a way of Web enambling Tcl
> appz (besides the tcl-plugin) is far away from hitting the road.
> (would be an interesting project thou... some kind of Jboss in TCL...if you
> ever taught about it, count me in).
>
> We went over the TCL plugin a couple of weeks ago and found out it was
> somehow insecure for DB issues
> (since all the conns had to originate from client side). Also, the way
> security policies apply suggest creating a custom plugin-pack
> to be distributed to the users (among with the needed tcl packages, since
> nothing would be executed at server side).
>
> As for the Castellano translation of the Rivet Manual, i'd be glad to help
> :-).
> I will take the availiable version of the manual from the web and start
> translating asap, work is allways good when u like what you do ;-).
Be sure to get the manual from subversion, as that's more recent than
what's on the web. If you need instructions on how to use subversion,
let me know...
> A channel to the dev-team would be nice, it'll sing up right away to the
> Rivet-dev mail.
Great, welcome:-)
--
David N. Welton
- http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
Linux, Open Source Consulting
- http://www.dedasys.com/
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Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by Roy Keene <rk...@psislidell.com>.
Mr. Guillem,
I have no problem with you doing whatever with that "tkweb.tcl"
script. I consider it public domain, and even made a little note in the
on-line version of that file now about such.
Also, I'm not sure what you're talking about with PHP/Tk as PHP/Tk
doesn't allow you to display Tk widgets on a webpage as far as I can tell.
PHP/Tk allows you to display Tk widgets on a Tk toplevel window which is
rendered by your graphical environment (X, Win32, Aqua, whatever). Where
as "tkweb" allows you to generate Tk widgets on a webpage and interact
with them.
I should note that I gave up writing "tkweb" at its current state
because I decided it was the wrong way to solve the problem. The right
way would take way more time than I was interested in devoting to such a
toy (I wrote "tkweb" over a boring weekend, whereas the proper
implementation would take several days before it became usable). It was a
fun little amusement at the time (somewhere around 2000), though. If you
can get something productive out of it, so much the better.
Roy Keene
Planning Systems Inc
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Pedro Guillem wrote:
> Hello David and Roy.
> Thank you for the quick response!. (too Quick if i may add :-D )
>
> I went thru Roy's code and as you warned, it's really close to what we were
> looking for, that being, a way to implement
> tk code at server side for web-enambling the GUI of our tcl app.
> We will add some some lines, and then we'll mail it back or put it in the
> Rivet CVS (if Roy agrees, offcourse).
> Thank you Very much!. we promise it will be handled as a special guest by
> our hads ;-).
>
> Yes, i mentioned php/tk as an example of the kind of bind which would be
> really useful to have in Rivet in order to implement Web-tk code
> or make basic tk widgets availiable in web pages. I heard (not seen) that
> Websh can do some of this... (ej. mind game example at Websh page).
>
> Still, we all know a TCL application server, or a way of Web enambling Tcl
> appz (besides the tcl-plugin) is far away from hitting the road.
> (would be an interesting project thou... some kind of Jboss in TCL...if you
> ever taught about it, count me in).
>
> We went over the TCL plugin a couple of weeks ago and found out it was
> somehow insecure for DB issues
> (since all the conns had to originate from client side). Also, the way
> security policies apply suggest creating a custom plugin-pack
> to be distributed to the users (among with the needed tcl packages, since
> nothing would be executed at server side).
>
> As for the Castellano translation of the Rivet Manual, i'd be glad to help
> :-).
> I will take the availiable version of the manual from the web and start
> translating asap, work is allways good when u like what you do ;-).
> A channel to the dev-team would be nice, it'll sing up right away to the
> Rivet-dev mail.
>
> Glad to be in touch!
> Grazie ancora
>
> Pedro Manuel Guillem
> S&S
> Bayes Forecast - Madrid
> http://www.bayesforecast.com
> http://tol-project.org
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David N. Welton" <da...@dedasys.com>
> To: "Roy Keene" <rk...@psislidell.com>
> Cc: "Michael Link" <ml...@synthemesc.com>; "Pedro Guillem"
> <pm...@bayesinf.com>; <ri...@tcl.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
>
>
>> Roy Keene wrote:
>>> I once began a Tcl/Tk under Tcl/CGI tool, but never finished it.
>>>
>>> It can be seen here:
>>> http://www.rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/tkweb.tcl.htm
>>>
>>> I wrote it years ago so I don't remember anything about it, but it does
>>> work for some basic things.
>>>
>>> Good luck with that.
>>
>>> Roy Keene
>>> Planning Systems Inc
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Michael Link wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> From: "Pedro Guillem" <pm...@bayesinf.com>
>>>>> Date: October 13, 2005 5:05:04 AM CDT
>>>>> To: <ml...@apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: Rivet/Tk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Michael.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before i say anything, receive my most sincere congratulations for
>>>>> the developement of Rivet.
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is Pedro Guillem,
>>>>>
>>>>> I work as a Junior Programmer for Bayes Forecast, a Business
>>>>> Intelligence consutant in Madrid, Spain.
>>>>> We work to imporoove our open source project named TOL (Time Oriented
>>>>> Language) www.tol-project.org
>>>>> which's core was coded in C++. I kindly encourage you to visit the
>>>>> web for more details and specs.
>>>>> Feel free to get our daily compile from our CVS.
>>>>>
>>>>> The visuals of our software has a strong Tcl and Tk basis, for this
>>>>> reason, we dediced to implement Rivet to port a
>>>>> web user interface. No need to rebuild the whole Tcl cake, you know
>>>>> what i mean.
>>>>> We impressed ourselves when we saw Rivet succesfully loading our
>>>>> custom made packages. amazing work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Out own tcl widgets (toltcl packages) work like a charm with rivet,
>>>>> for obvious reasons, there is no way of opening a tk console
>>>>> to display visuals from a server side generated page... it wouldnt
>>>>> make any sense. still.. we have a lot of work already
>>>>> developed to display all the graphical interface using tk.
>>>>>
>>>>> We figured we couldnt achieve half the realiability by spitting "tcl
>>>>> puts" with html code in it. And less possible, display Stochastical
>>>>> Graphs ...
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is:
>>>>> Does rivet implements or will implement some kind of tk/html parsing
>>>>> extension?. kind of like php/tk ??
>>>>> This way all the tk coded visuals could swim into html, at least the
>>>>> basic ones. Is there any method of parsing tk visuals over Rivet?.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know this is kind of unethical, but nobody seems to speak about
>>>>> this and i taught in asking the source.
>>>>> I appreciate your time, effort, and any help you could provide to
>>>>> your open source compliant spanish companions!! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Manuel Guillem
>>>>> S&S
>>>>> Bayes Forecast
>>>>> Madrid - Spain
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: We would are grateful to contribute and promote the use of rivet
>>>>> technology.
>>
>> [Responding to Roy]
>> I think actually the one interested in it was Pedro Guillem - if I
>> understand correctly, Michael Link forwarded his mail on to us at the
>> rivet-dev list.
>>
>> [Responding to Pedro]
>> Anyway, Pedro, Roy's Tk/CGI thing is pretty snazzy, and worth a look,
>> but I don't think it's complete...and it's by far the best of that kind
>> of tool I've seen - I think you'd have to continue his work if you want
>> to output to the web.
>>
>> I'm a bit confused as to just what you want, though - you mention PHP/Tk
>> - that's just a TK binding for PHP so that you can write GUI's with PHP.
>>
>> Something else that's worth checking out that might be what you need is
>> this, the Tcl browser plugin:
>>
>> http://www.tcl.tk/software/plugin/
>>
>> I'm glad you like Rivet and are happy with it. Anything you'd like to
>> do to help out is welcome. One possibility would be translating the
>> manual into Castellano, although that's a big effort and is likely to
>> mean lots of maintainance work too. The first thing to do in any case
>> is to get involved by signing up for the rivet-dev mailing list!
>>
>> Bienvenido, in any case!
>>
>> --
>> David N. Welton
>> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>>
>> Linux, Open Source Consulting
>> - http://www.dedasys.com/
>>
>
>
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Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by Pedro Guillem <pm...@bayesinf.com>.
Hello David and Roy.
Thank you for the quick response!. (too Quick if i may add :-D )
I went thru Roy's code and as you warned, it's really close to what we were
looking for, that being, a way to implement
tk code at server side for web-enambling the GUI of our tcl app.
We will add some some lines, and then we'll mail it back or put it in the
Rivet CVS (if Roy agrees, offcourse).
Thank you Very much!. we promise it will be handled as a special guest by
our hads ;-).
Yes, i mentioned php/tk as an example of the kind of bind which would be
really useful to have in Rivet in order to implement Web-tk code
or make basic tk widgets availiable in web pages. I heard (not seen) that
Websh can do some of this... (ej. mind game example at Websh page).
Still, we all know a TCL application server, or a way of Web enambling Tcl
appz (besides the tcl-plugin) is far away from hitting the road.
(would be an interesting project thou... some kind of Jboss in TCL...if you
ever taught about it, count me in).
We went over the TCL plugin a couple of weeks ago and found out it was
somehow insecure for DB issues
(since all the conns had to originate from client side). Also, the way
security policies apply suggest creating a custom plugin-pack
to be distributed to the users (among with the needed tcl packages, since
nothing would be executed at server side).
As for the Castellano translation of the Rivet Manual, i'd be glad to help
:-).
I will take the availiable version of the manual from the web and start
translating asap, work is allways good when u like what you do ;-).
A channel to the dev-team would be nice, it'll sing up right away to the
Rivet-dev mail.
Glad to be in touch!
Grazie ancora
Pedro Manuel Guillem
S&S
Bayes Forecast - Madrid
http://www.bayesforecast.com
http://tol-project.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "David N. Welton" <da...@dedasys.com>
To: "Roy Keene" <rk...@psislidell.com>
Cc: "Michael Link" <ml...@synthemesc.com>; "Pedro Guillem"
<pm...@bayesinf.com>; <ri...@tcl.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
> Roy Keene wrote:
> > I once began a Tcl/Tk under Tcl/CGI tool, but never finished it.
> >
> > It can be seen here:
> > http://www.rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/tkweb.tcl.htm
> >
> > I wrote it years ago so I don't remember anything about it, but it does
> > work for some basic things.
> >
> > Good luck with that.
>
> > Roy Keene
> > Planning Systems Inc
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Michael Link wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: "Pedro Guillem" <pm...@bayesinf.com>
> >>> Date: October 13, 2005 5:05:04 AM CDT
> >>> To: <ml...@apache.org>
> >>> Subject: Rivet/Tk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello Michael.
> >>>
> >>> Before i say anything, receive my most sincere congratulations for
> >>> the developement of Rivet.
> >>>
> >>> My name is Pedro Guillem,
> >>>
> >>> I work as a Junior Programmer for Bayes Forecast, a Business
> >>> Intelligence consutant in Madrid, Spain.
> >>> We work to imporoove our open source project named TOL (Time Oriented
> >>> Language) www.tol-project.org
> >>> which's core was coded in C++. I kindly encourage you to visit the
> >>> web for more details and specs.
> >>> Feel free to get our daily compile from our CVS.
> >>>
> >>> The visuals of our software has a strong Tcl and Tk basis, for this
> >>> reason, we dediced to implement Rivet to port a
> >>> web user interface. No need to rebuild the whole Tcl cake, you know
> >>> what i mean.
> >>> We impressed ourselves when we saw Rivet succesfully loading our
> >>> custom made packages. amazing work.
> >>>
> >>> Out own tcl widgets (toltcl packages) work like a charm with rivet,
> >>> for obvious reasons, there is no way of opening a tk console
> >>> to display visuals from a server side generated page... it wouldnt
> >>> make any sense. still.. we have a lot of work already
> >>> developed to display all the graphical interface using tk.
> >>>
> >>> We figured we couldnt achieve half the realiability by spitting "tcl
> >>> puts" with html code in it. And less possible, display Stochastical
> >>> Graphs ...
> >>>
> >>> My question is:
> >>> Does rivet implements or will implement some kind of tk/html parsing
> >>> extension?. kind of like php/tk ??
> >>> This way all the tk coded visuals could swim into html, at least the
> >>> basic ones. Is there any method of parsing tk visuals over Rivet?.
> >>>
> >>> I know this is kind of unethical, but nobody seems to speak about
> >>> this and i taught in asking the source.
> >>> I appreciate your time, effort, and any help you could provide to
> >>> your open source compliant spanish companions!! :-)
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>>
> >>> Pedro Manuel Guillem
> >>> S&S
> >>> Bayes Forecast
> >>> Madrid - Spain
> >>>
> >>> PS: We would are grateful to contribute and promote the use of rivet
> >>> technology.
>
> [Responding to Roy]
> I think actually the one interested in it was Pedro Guillem - if I
> understand correctly, Michael Link forwarded his mail on to us at the
> rivet-dev list.
>
> [Responding to Pedro]
> Anyway, Pedro, Roy's Tk/CGI thing is pretty snazzy, and worth a look,
> but I don't think it's complete...and it's by far the best of that kind
> of tool I've seen - I think you'd have to continue his work if you want
> to output to the web.
>
> I'm a bit confused as to just what you want, though - you mention PHP/Tk
> - that's just a TK binding for PHP so that you can write GUI's with PHP.
>
> Something else that's worth checking out that might be what you need is
> this, the Tcl browser plugin:
>
> http://www.tcl.tk/software/plugin/
>
> I'm glad you like Rivet and are happy with it. Anything you'd like to
> do to help out is welcome. One possibility would be translating the
> manual into Castellano, although that's a big effort and is likely to
> mean lots of maintainance work too. The first thing to do in any case
> is to get involved by signing up for the rivet-dev mailing list!
>
> Bienvenido, in any case!
>
> --
> David N. Welton
> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>
> Linux, Open Source Consulting
> - http://www.dedasys.com/
>
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Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by "David N. Welton" <da...@dedasys.com>.
Roy Keene wrote:
> I once began a Tcl/Tk under Tcl/CGI tool, but never finished it.
>
> It can be seen here:
> http://www.rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/tkweb.tcl.htm
>
> I wrote it years ago so I don't remember anything about it, but it does
> work for some basic things.
>
> Good luck with that.
> Roy Keene
> Planning Systems Inc
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Michael Link wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "Pedro Guillem" <pm...@bayesinf.com>
>>> Date: October 13, 2005 5:05:04 AM CDT
>>> To: <ml...@apache.org>
>>> Subject: Rivet/Tk
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Michael.
>>>
>>> Before i say anything, receive my most sincere congratulations for
>>> the developement of Rivet.
>>>
>>> My name is Pedro Guillem,
>>>
>>> I work as a Junior Programmer for Bayes Forecast, a Business
>>> Intelligence consutant in Madrid, Spain.
>>> We work to imporoove our open source project named TOL (Time Oriented
>>> Language) www.tol-project.org
>>> which's core was coded in C++. I kindly encourage you to visit the
>>> web for more details and specs.
>>> Feel free to get our daily compile from our CVS.
>>>
>>> The visuals of our software has a strong Tcl and Tk basis, for this
>>> reason, we dediced to implement Rivet to port a
>>> web user interface. No need to rebuild the whole Tcl cake, you know
>>> what i mean.
>>> We impressed ourselves when we saw Rivet succesfully loading our
>>> custom made packages. amazing work.
>>>
>>> Out own tcl widgets (toltcl packages) work like a charm with rivet,
>>> for obvious reasons, there is no way of opening a tk console
>>> to display visuals from a server side generated page... it wouldnt
>>> make any sense. still.. we have a lot of work already
>>> developed to display all the graphical interface using tk.
>>>
>>> We figured we couldnt achieve half the realiability by spitting "tcl
>>> puts" with html code in it. And less possible, display Stochastical
>>> Graphs ...
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>> Does rivet implements or will implement some kind of tk/html parsing
>>> extension?. kind of like php/tk ??
>>> This way all the tk coded visuals could swim into html, at least the
>>> basic ones. Is there any method of parsing tk visuals over Rivet?.
>>>
>>> I know this is kind of unethical, but nobody seems to speak about
>>> this and i taught in asking the source.
>>> I appreciate your time, effort, and any help you could provide to
>>> your open source compliant spanish companions!! :-)
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Pedro Manuel Guillem
>>> S&S
>>> Bayes Forecast
>>> Madrid - Spain
>>>
>>> PS: We would are grateful to contribute and promote the use of rivet
>>> technology.
[Responding to Roy]
I think actually the one interested in it was Pedro Guillem - if I
understand correctly, Michael Link forwarded his mail on to us at the
rivet-dev list.
[Responding to Pedro]
Anyway, Pedro, Roy's Tk/CGI thing is pretty snazzy, and worth a look,
but I don't think it's complete...and it's by far the best of that kind
of tool I've seen - I think you'd have to continue his work if you want
to output to the web.
I'm a bit confused as to just what you want, though - you mention PHP/Tk
- that's just a TK binding for PHP so that you can write GUI's with PHP.
Something else that's worth checking out that might be what you need is
this, the Tcl browser plugin:
http://www.tcl.tk/software/plugin/
I'm glad you like Rivet and are happy with it. Anything you'd like to
do to help out is welcome. One possibility would be translating the
manual into Castellano, although that's a big effort and is likely to
mean lots of maintainance work too. The first thing to do in any case
is to get involved by signing up for the rivet-dev mailing list!
Bienvenido, in any case!
--
David N. Welton
- http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
Linux, Open Source Consulting
- http://www.dedasys.com/
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Re: Fwd: Rivet/Tk
Posted by Roy Keene <rk...@psislidell.com>.
I once began a Tcl/Tk under Tcl/CGI tool, but never finished it.
It can be seen here:
http://www.rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/tkweb.tcl.htm
I wrote it years ago so I don't remember anything about it, but it does
work for some basic things.
Good luck with that.
Roy Keene
Planning Systems Inc
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Michael Link wrote:
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "Pedro Guillem" <pm...@bayesinf.com>
>> Date: October 13, 2005 5:05:04 AM CDT
>> To: <ml...@apache.org>
>> Subject: Rivet/Tk
>>
>>
>> Hello Michael.
>>
>> Before i say anything, receive my most sincere congratulations for the
>> developement of Rivet.
>>
>> My name is Pedro Guillem,
>>
>> I work as a Junior Programmer for Bayes Forecast, a Business Intelligence
>> consutant in Madrid, Spain.
>> We work to imporoove our open source project named TOL (Time Oriented
>> Language) www.tol-project.org
>> which's core was coded in C++. I kindly encourage you to visit the web for
>> more details and specs.
>> Feel free to get our daily compile from our CVS.
>>
>> The visuals of our software has a strong Tcl and Tk basis, for this reason,
>> we dediced to implement Rivet to port a
>> web user interface. No need to rebuild the whole Tcl cake, you know what i
>> mean.
>> We impressed ourselves when we saw Rivet succesfully loading our custom
>> made packages. amazing work.
>>
>> Out own tcl widgets (toltcl packages) work like a charm with rivet, for
>> obvious reasons, there is no way of opening a tk console
>> to display visuals from a server side generated page... it wouldnt make any
>> sense. still.. we have a lot of work already
>> developed to display all the graphical interface using tk.
>>
>> We figured we couldnt achieve half the realiability by spitting "tcl puts"
>> with html code in it. And less possible, display Stochastical
>> Graphs ...
>>
>> My question is:
>> Does rivet implements or will implement some kind of tk/html parsing
>> extension?. kind of like php/tk ??
>> This way all the tk coded visuals could swim into html, at least the basic
>> ones. Is there any method of parsing tk visuals over Rivet?.
>>
>> I know this is kind of unethical, but nobody seems to speak about this and
>> i taught in asking the source.
>> I appreciate your time, effort, and any help you could provide to your open
>> source compliant spanish companions!! :-)
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Pedro Manuel Guillem
>> S&S
>> Bayes Forecast
>> Madrid - Spain
>>
>> PS: We would are grateful to contribute and promote the use of rivet
>> technology.
>>
>
>
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