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[DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot, what
will we call it?
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a french
nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun Owl"
due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which some
people thought made it look like it had been shot.
Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted as a
mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
Heh, I don't draw anymore but it wouldn't seem that hard for a good cartoonist.
Matt
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
> :-D that would either look funny or ridiculous but worth evaluating.
>
> Are you or is someone else able provide a rendering which a Jewish-looking
> owl? Woody Allen style, for example.
>
> Michael
>
> Am 2014-11-25 um 21:51 schrieb Matt Benson:
>
>> How about a rabbinical owl?
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
>>>> naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That was me and I still highly dislike the connection between the owl
>>> (Greek
>>> wisdom) and Yiddish background.
>>>
>>> This always leads me the same question: Why the owl? Having sad that, I
>>> would love to see a stylized version of a Woody Allen type:
>>>
>>> http://popchassid.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
:-D that would either look funny or ridiculous but worth evaluating.
Are you or is someone else able provide a rendering which a
Jewish-looking owl? Woody Allen style, for example.
Michael
Am 2014-11-25 um 21:51 schrieb Matt Benson:
> How about a rabbinical owl?
>
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson:
>>>>
>>>> From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
>>>
>>> mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
>>> naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
>>
>>
>> That was me and I still highly dislike the connection between the owl (Greek
>> wisdom) and Yiddish background.
>>
>> This always leads me the same question: Why the owl? Having sad that, I
>> would love to see a stylized version of a Woody Allen type:
>> http://popchassid.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
:-D that would either look funny or ridiculous but worth evaluating.
Are you or is someone else able provide a rendering which a
Jewish-looking owl? Woody Allen style, for example.
Michael
Am 2014-11-25 um 21:51 schrieb Matt Benson:
> How about a rabbinical owl?
>
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson:
>>>>
>>>> From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
>>>
>>> mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
>>> naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
>>
>>
>> That was me and I still highly dislike the connection between the owl (Greek
>> wisdom) and Yiddish background.
>>
>> This always leads me the same question: Why the owl? Having sad that, I
>> would love to see a stylized version of a Woody Allen type:
>> http://popchassid.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
How about a rabbinical owl?
Matt
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson:
>>>
>>> From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
>>
>> mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
>> naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
>
>
> That was me and I still highly dislike the connection between the owl (Greek
> wisdom) and Yiddish background.
>
> This always leads me the same question: Why the owl? Having sad that, I
> would love to see a stylized version of a Woody Allen type:
> http://popchassid.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
>
> Michael
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
How about a rabbinical owl?
Matt
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson:
>>>
>>> From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
>>
>> mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
>> naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
>
>
> That was me and I still highly dislike the connection between the owl (Greek
> wisdom) and Yiddish background.
>
> This always leads me the same question: Why the owl? Having sad that, I
> would love to see a stylized version of a Woody Allen type:
> http://popchassid.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
>
> Michael
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson:
>>From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
> mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
> naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
That was me and I still highly dislike the connection between the owl
(Greek wisdom) and Yiddish background.
This always leads me the same question: Why the owl? Having sad that, I
would love to see a stylized version of a Woody Allen type:
http://popchassid.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
Michael
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
Am 2014-11-25 um 20:56 schrieb Matt Benson:
>>From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
> mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
> naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
That was me and I still highly dislike the connection between the owl
(Greek wisdom) and Yiddish background.
This always leads me the same question: Why the owl? Having sad that, I
would love to see a stylized version of a Woody Allen type:
http://popchassid.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
Michael
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
>From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
Matt
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
>
> When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a french
> nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
>
> Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun Owl"
> due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which some
> people thought made it look like it had been shot.
>
> Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
>
> As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
>
> Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted as a
> mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
>
> I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
>From the peanut gallery: someone had complained that the owl as a
mascot disregarded the Yiddish origin of the term "Maven." How about
naming the owl something like Abraham, Jacob, or Moses? :D
Matt
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
>
> When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a french
> nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
>
> Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun Owl"
> due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which some
> people thought made it look like it had been shot.
>
> Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
>
> As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
>
> Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted as a
> mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
>
> I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
I really don't think we need to name the owl, do we? Are we just naming it
for fun or is there a reason we want to?
Cheers,
Paul
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Jeroen Hoek <je...@lable.org> wrote:
>
> > I would recommend leaving it without a name.
>
>
> I think that the name Pandora's box is already open, I suspect in the
> absence of a concrete alternative, "shotgun" will be the name
>
>
> > The mascot can help in
> > providing Maven with a stronger visual identity, but I'm not convinced
> > naming it is helpful.
> >
> > On the contrary, it might come across as 'silly' or 'unprofessional',
> > which for me goes against the nature of Maven: a mature tool many use
> > as one of the steps towards stabilizing and professionalizing their
> > code base.
> >
> > Why not call it simply 'The Maven Owl'?
>
>
> Ok, we'll add that suggestion into the pot.
>
>
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jeroen Hoek
> > Lable
> >
> > 2014-11-25 12:05 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <
> > stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
> > >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
> > >
> > > When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a
> > french
> > > nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
> > >
> > > Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun
> Owl"
> > > due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which
> some
> > > people thought made it look like it had been shot.
> > >
> > > Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
> > >
> > > As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> > > rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
> > >
> > > Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted
> as
> > a
> > > mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
> > >
> > > I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
I really don't think we need to name the owl, do we? Are we just naming it
for fun or is there a reason we want to?
Cheers,
Paul
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Jeroen Hoek <je...@lable.org> wrote:
>
> > I would recommend leaving it without a name.
>
>
> I think that the name Pandora's box is already open, I suspect in the
> absence of a concrete alternative, "shotgun" will be the name
>
>
> > The mascot can help in
> > providing Maven with a stronger visual identity, but I'm not convinced
> > naming it is helpful.
> >
> > On the contrary, it might come across as 'silly' or 'unprofessional',
> > which for me goes against the nature of Maven: a mature tool many use
> > as one of the steps towards stabilizing and professionalizing their
> > code base.
> >
> > Why not call it simply 'The Maven Owl'?
>
>
> Ok, we'll add that suggestion into the pot.
>
>
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jeroen Hoek
> > Lable
> >
> > 2014-11-25 12:05 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <
> > stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
> > >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
> > >
> > > When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a
> > french
> > > nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
> > >
> > > Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun
> Owl"
> > > due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which
> some
> > > people thought made it look like it had been shot.
> > >
> > > Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
> > >
> > > As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> > > rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
> > >
> > > Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted
> as
> > a
> > > mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
> > >
> > > I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Jeroen Hoek <je...@lable.org> wrote:
> I would recommend leaving it without a name.
I think that the name Pandora's box is already open, I suspect in the
absence of a concrete alternative, "shotgun" will be the name
> The mascot can help in
> providing Maven with a stronger visual identity, but I'm not convinced
> naming it is helpful.
>
> On the contrary, it might come across as 'silly' or 'unprofessional',
> which for me goes against the nature of Maven: a mature tool many use
> as one of the steps towards stabilizing and professionalizing their
> code base.
>
> Why not call it simply 'The Maven Owl'?
Ok, we'll add that suggestion into the pot.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jeroen Hoek
> Lable
>
> 2014-11-25 12:05 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
> >
> > When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a
> french
> > nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
> >
> > Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun Owl"
> > due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which some
> > people thought made it look like it had been shot.
> >
> > Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
> >
> > As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> > rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
> >
> > Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted as
> a
> > mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
> >
> > I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Jeroen Hoek <je...@lable.org> wrote:
> I would recommend leaving it without a name.
I think that the name Pandora's box is already open, I suspect in the
absence of a concrete alternative, "shotgun" will be the name
> The mascot can help in
> providing Maven with a stronger visual identity, but I'm not convinced
> naming it is helpful.
>
> On the contrary, it might come across as 'silly' or 'unprofessional',
> which for me goes against the nature of Maven: a mature tool many use
> as one of the steps towards stabilizing and professionalizing their
> code base.
>
> Why not call it simply 'The Maven Owl'?
Ok, we'll add that suggestion into the pot.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jeroen Hoek
> Lable
>
> 2014-11-25 12:05 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>>:
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
> >
> > When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a
> french
> > nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
> >
> > Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun Owl"
> > due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which some
> > people thought made it look like it had been shot.
> >
> > Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
> >
> > As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> > rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
> >
> > Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted as
> a
> > mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
> >
> > I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Jeroen Hoek <je...@lable.org>.
I would recommend leaving it without a name. The mascot can help in
providing Maven with a stronger visual identity, but I'm not convinced
naming it is helpful.
On the contrary, it might come across as 'silly' or 'unprofessional',
which for me goes against the nature of Maven: a mature tool many use
as one of the steps towards stabilizing and professionalizing their
code base.
Why not call it simply 'The Maven Owl'?
Kind regards,
Jeroen Hoek
Lable
2014-11-25 12:05 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
>
> When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a french
> nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
>
> Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun Owl"
> due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which some
> people thought made it look like it had been shot.
>
> Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
>
> As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
>
> Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted as a
> mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
>
> I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
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Re: [DISCUSS] In the event of adopting the owl as project mascot,
what will we call it?
Posted by Andreas Gudian <an...@gmail.com>.
I suggest Darth Mowl. But not seriously ;-).
Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014 schrieb Stephen Connolly :
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-final-large.png
>
> When I created this owl, I gave it the name "Couché Tard" which is a french
> nickname for an owl (literal translation: "Sleeps Late")....
>
> Early versions of this owl have ended up with the nickname "Shotgun Owl"
> due to the belly feathers being white in the initial versions, which some
> people thought made it look like it had been shot.
>
> Some people feel that we shouldn't name a mascot...
>
> As creator of the graphic, I could force the issue... but I would much
> rather if the community has a name that the community wants.
>
> Please provide your suggestions in this thread. If the owl is adopted as a
> mascot, we will have a second vote thread to confirm its name.
>
> I personally recommend a gender neutral name.
>