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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com> on 2010/01/29 04:09:45 UTC
Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
hi,
I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new Geronimo.
There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin project names,
artifact names, "j2eeType"...
So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
Any thoughts?
--
Lei Wang (Rex)
rwonly AT apache.org
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com>.
2010/1/29 David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>
> I think "j2eeType" in object names and abstract names mapped to object
> names is a literal specified in jsr77 so we shouldn't change it.
>
OK, I see..
> I'd be OK with javaee or ee in package names as long as we are sure it
> won't disrupt anyones ongoing development. So if you want to do this please
> figure out all the places that will change and make sure no one is working
> on them.
>
OK, I will open a jira and provide a patch first.
Thanks
-Rex
>
> Since this is a non-functional change I tend to consider it less important
> than getting all of the 2.2 functionality working in 3.0 and getting all of
> aries functionality integrated. However, it would be nice to have more up
> to date names.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Jack Cai wrote:
>
> I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee" or
> "ee".
>
> -Jack
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
>>
>> 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
>> 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new Geronimo.
>>> There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin project names,
>>> artifact names, "j2eeType"...
>>> So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lei Wang (Rex)
>>> rwonly AT apache.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shawn
>>
>
>
>
--
Lei Wang (Rex)
rwonly AT apache.org
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
I think "j2eeType" in object names and abstract names mapped to object
names is a literal specified in jsr77 so we shouldn't change it.
I'd be OK with javaee or ee in package names as long as we are sure it
won't disrupt anyones ongoing development. So if you want to do this
please figure out all the places that will change and make sure no one
is working on them.
Since this is a non-functional change I tend to consider it less
important than getting all of the 2.2 functionality working in 3.0 and
getting all of aries functionality integrated. However, it would be
nice to have more up to date names.
thanks
david jencks
On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Jack Cai wrote:
> I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee"
> or "ee".
>
> -Jack
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
>
> 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
> 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
>
> I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new Geronimo.
> There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin project
> names, artifact names, "j2eeType"...
> So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> --
> Lei Wang (Rex)
> rwonly AT apache.org
>
>
>
> --
> Shawn
>
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com>.
Sure
you can leave a message under when you finish.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-5058
thanks
2010/2/1 Ivan <xh...@gmail.com>
> Hi, Rex
> Currently, I am working on moving to javaee 6 xmlbeans, if possible,
> could you please do the changes after I finish it ?
> Thanks !
>
> 2010/2/1 Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com>
>
> Thanks, will use "javaee".
>>
>> -Rex
>>
>> 2010/1/29 Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>
>>
>> You cannot use JEE to refer to Java EE. We had several instances of the
>>> "JEE" usage on our OpenJPA website/docs and were politely reminded of
>>> the correct naming by one of our PMC members who works for Sun :-)
>>>
>>> For distribution names (like zip and plugin filenames) I agree that we
>>> need to come up with a consistent naming scheme that is compatible with
>>> the Sun guidelines.
>>>
>>> BUT, in the source code, I would argue we can use "jee" all we want, as
>>> they are internal variables/attribute names.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Donald
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/29/10 3:00 AM, Jack Cai wrote:
>>> > I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee" or
>>> "ee".
>>> >
>>> > -Jack
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <genspring@gmail.com
>>> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
>>> >
>>> > 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
>>> > 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rwonly@gmail.com
>>> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > hi,
>>> >
>>> > I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new
>>> > Geronimo.
>>> > There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin
>>> > project names, artifact names, "j2eeType"...
>>> > So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>>> >
>>> > Any thoughts?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Lei Wang (Rex)
>>> > rwonly AT apache.org <http://apache.org>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Shawn
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lei Wang (Rex)
>> rwonly AT apache.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ivan
>
--
Lei Wang (Rex)
rwonly AT apache.org
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Ivan <xh...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Rex
Currently, I am working on moving to javaee 6 xmlbeans, if possible,
could you please do the changes after I finish it ?
Thanks !
2010/2/1 Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com>
> Thanks, will use "javaee".
>
> -Rex
>
> 2010/1/29 Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>
>
> You cannot use JEE to refer to Java EE. We had several instances of the
>> "JEE" usage on our OpenJPA website/docs and were politely reminded of
>> the correct naming by one of our PMC members who works for Sun :-)
>>
>> For distribution names (like zip and plugin filenames) I agree that we
>> need to come up with a consistent naming scheme that is compatible with
>> the Sun guidelines.
>>
>> BUT, in the source code, I would argue we can use "jee" all we want, as
>> they are internal variables/attribute names.
>>
>>
>> -Donald
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/10 3:00 AM, Jack Cai wrote:
>> > I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee" or
>> "ee".
>> >
>> > -Jack
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <genspring@gmail.com
>> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
>> >
>> > 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
>> > 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rwonly@gmail.com
>> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new
>> > Geronimo.
>> > There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin
>> > project names, artifact names, "j2eeType"...
>> > So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lei Wang (Rex)
>> > rwonly AT apache.org <http://apache.org>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Shawn
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Lei Wang (Rex)
> rwonly AT apache.org
>
--
Ivan
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, will use "javaee".
-Rex
2010/1/29 Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>
> You cannot use JEE to refer to Java EE. We had several instances of the
> "JEE" usage on our OpenJPA website/docs and were politely reminded of
> the correct naming by one of our PMC members who works for Sun :-)
>
> For distribution names (like zip and plugin filenames) I agree that we
> need to come up with a consistent naming scheme that is compatible with
> the Sun guidelines.
>
> BUT, in the source code, I would argue we can use "jee" all we want, as
> they are internal variables/attribute names.
>
>
> -Donald
>
>
> On 1/29/10 3:00 AM, Jack Cai wrote:
> > I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee" or
> "ee".
> >
> > -Jack
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <genspring@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
> >
> > 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
> > 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rwonly@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new
> > Geronimo.
> > There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin
> > project names, artifact names, "j2eeType"...
> > So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lei Wang (Rex)
> > rwonly AT apache.org <http://apache.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shawn
> >
> >
>
--
Lei Wang (Rex)
rwonly AT apache.org
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
Come on just use javaee, and be done with it.
--jason
On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
> You cannot use JEE to refer to Java EE. We had several instances of the
> "JEE" usage on our OpenJPA website/docs and were politely reminded of
> the correct naming by one of our PMC members who works for Sun :-)
>
> For distribution names (like zip and plugin filenames) I agree that we
> need to come up with a consistent naming scheme that is compatible with
> the Sun guidelines.
>
> BUT, in the source code, I would argue we can use "jee" all we want, as
> they are internal variables/attribute names.
>
>
> -Donald
>
>
> On 1/29/10 3:00 AM, Jack Cai wrote:
>> I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee" or "ee".
>>
>> -Jack
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <genspring@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
>>
>> 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
>> 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rwonly@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new
>> Geronimo.
>> There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin
>> project names, artifact names, "j2eeType"...
>> So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lei Wang (Rex)
>> rwonly AT apache.org <http://apache.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shawn
>>
>>
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
You cannot use JEE to refer to Java EE. We had several instances of the
"JEE" usage on our OpenJPA website/docs and were politely reminded of
the correct naming by one of our PMC members who works for Sun :-)
For distribution names (like zip and plugin filenames) I agree that we
need to come up with a consistent naming scheme that is compatible with
the Sun guidelines.
BUT, in the source code, I would argue we can use "jee" all we want, as
they are internal variables/attribute names.
-Donald
On 1/29/10 3:00 AM, Jack Cai wrote:
> I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee" or "ee".
>
> -Jack
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <genspring@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
>
> 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
> 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rwonly@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new
> Geronimo.
> There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin
> project names, artifact names, "j2eeType"...
> So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> --
> Lei Wang (Rex)
> rwonly AT apache.org <http://apache.org>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Shawn
>
>
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Jack Cai <gr...@gmail.com>.
I remember that "jee" is not a good abbreviation. So maybe "javaee" or "ee".
-Jack
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
>
> 1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
> 2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new Geronimo.
>> There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin project names,
>> artifact names, "j2eeType"...
>> So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lei Wang (Rex)
>> rwonly AT apache.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Shawn
>
Re: Rename the term "j2ee" to "javaee" or "jee" in G3.0?
Posted by Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>.
Good idea if following concerns are addressed:
1, This might break some user's existing deployment plan.
2, Doc and Example need update as well after such a change.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Rex Wang <rw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
>
> I think it is a good time to stop calling "j2ee" in our new Geronimo.
> There are a lot of places using this term, such as plugin project names,
> artifact names, "j2eeType"...
> So which one is more appropriate, javaee or jee?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> --
> Lei Wang (Rex)
> rwonly AT apache.org
>
--
Shawn