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Posted to users@directory.apache.org by Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com> on 2007/01/31 21:27:27 UTC
Microsoft AD
Hi,
I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link to download
it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse plugin, which
now links to directory.apache.org.
I understand that the website is new TODAY, and this seems to be under way,
but I would appreciate if someone could point me to a download.
A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio without the
front end - I want to query Active Directory without having the presentation
handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in my Struts web
application.
Thanks,
EC
Re: Fwd: Microsoft AD
Posted by Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>.
Why don't you just use the SUN JNDI LDAP provider to access the LDAP server?
Alex
Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> I forget to push this mail to the users ML. Done now
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>
> Date: Feb 1, 2007 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Microsoft AD
> To: Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com>
>
> So, I cannot use LDAPStudio classes for querying AD, and I should use
>> OpenLDAP or JNDI?
>
>
> Well, LdapStudio is meant to be a GUI, not an API, so if you want to use
> its
> code base to qyuey any ldap server, you will have to go deep into the code
> to do it. Of course this is possible, but this is not really the simplest
> way to go...
>
> The reason I wanted to use Apache Directory (LDAPStudio) classes is because
>> as an ASF project I know that there was a lot of thought put into the
>> design
>> of the code and that there will be an active mailing list for support
>> when
>> needed.
>
>
> Sure :) But it was not inended to be used the way you want. Anyway, it can
> be done. Let me find the place in the code where we build the ldap messages
> and send them to the server... (will take a little while)
>
> I feel that with all open source projects in the ASF you can turn to them
>> for help and somebody's always there for you.
>
>
> well, that's not exactly how it works :) but basically, you can push a
> mail,
> and if somebody has an answer, you will get it ... Remember that people at
> apache are all volunteers, and are also pretty busy ;)
>
> In addition, Apache will go through the trouble of finding the right
> code to
>> use, ie OpenLDAP and JNDI. So, using those classes that Apache builds
>> which
>> make the most of the underlying classes - much better than a beginner
>> would
>> - I would love to just take a pre-bundled project that is easy to use.
>
>
> Not sure that they are easy to use at all... (and I'm not really proud of
> this, as I wrote part of them ...) At some point, we should provide a kind
> of API like JLdap is.
>
> Remember that any API has a learning curve, and you won't avoid to spend
> some time on it. Apache won't do this for you :)
>
> Does that make sense?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> EC
>>
>> On 1/31/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <elecharny@gmail.com > wrote:
>> >
>> > Elie Ciment a écrit :
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link to
>> > > download
>> > > it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse plugin,
>> > which
>> > > now links to directory.apache.org .
>> >
>> > Well, the nighty build is - temporarily - available here :
>> > http://www.iktek.com/index.jsp?rubrique=ads
>> >
>> > This is *not* a release, but a build done every nigth at 2am UTC.
>> >
>> > The release will be available very soon.
>> >
>> > > A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio without
>> > the
>> > > front end - I want to query Active Directory without having the
>> > > presentation
>> > > handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in my
>> Struts
>> >
>> > > web
>> > > application.
>> >
>> > np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best solution
>> would
>> > be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the OpenLdap API
>> for
>> > java ( http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
>> >
>> > Emmanuel
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > EC
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Fwd: Microsoft AD
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
I forget to push this mail to the users ML. Done now
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 1, 2007 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft AD
To: Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com>
So, I cannot use LDAPStudio classes for querying AD, and I should use
> OpenLDAP or JNDI?
Well, LdapStudio is meant to be a GUI, not an API, so if you want to use its
code base to qyuey any ldap server, you will have to go deep into the code
to do it. Of course this is possible, but this is not really the simplest
way to go...
The reason I wanted to use Apache Directory (LDAPStudio) classes is because
> as an ASF project I know that there was a lot of thought put into the design
> of the code and that there will be an active mailing list for support when
> needed.
Sure :) But it was not inended to be used the way you want. Anyway, it can
be done. Let me find the place in the code where we build the ldap messages
and send them to the server... (will take a little while)
I feel that with all open source projects in the ASF you can turn to them
> for help and somebody's always there for you.
well, that's not exactly how it works :) but basically, you can push a mail,
and if somebody has an answer, you will get it ... Remember that people at
apache are all volunteers, and are also pretty busy ;)
In addition, Apache will go through the trouble of finding the right code to
> use, ie OpenLDAP and JNDI. So, using those classes that Apache builds which
> make the most of the underlying classes - much better than a beginner would
> - I would love to just take a pre-bundled project that is easy to use.
Not sure that they are easy to use at all... (and I'm not really proud of
this, as I wrote part of them ...) At some point, we should provide a kind
of API like JLdap is.
Remember that any API has a learning curve, and you won't avoid to spend
some time on it. Apache won't do this for you :)
Does that make sense?
>
> Thanks,
> EC
>
> On 1/31/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <elecharny@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > Elie Ciment a écrit :
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link to
> > > download
> > > it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse plugin,
> > which
> > > now links to directory.apache.org .
> >
> > Well, the nighty build is - temporarily - available here :
> > http://www.iktek.com/index.jsp?rubrique=ads
> >
> > This is *not* a release, but a build done every nigth at 2am UTC.
> >
> > The release will be available very soon.
> >
> > > A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio without
> > the
> > > front end - I want to query Active Directory without having the
> > > presentation
> > > handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in my Struts
> >
> > > web
> > > application.
> >
> > np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best solution would
> > be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the OpenLdap API for
> > java ( http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
> >
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > EC
> > >
> >
> >
>
--
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
--
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
Fwd: Microsoft AD
Posted by Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com>.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 1, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: Fwd: Microsoft AD
To: users@directory.apache.org
Also forward this mail to users ML
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From: Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 1, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft AD
To: elecharny@iktek.com
Aha. Any suggested code to get me started? Say, using JNDI. I don't know
much about LDAP or JNDI; what I do know is that I can access AD through
Java, because I have opened up the LDAPBrowser in Eclipse and can see
everything.
My problem is that I am not looking for a browser, but rather for the
functionality of the browser. I want to be able to take an invrentory of the
network based on the entries found in Active Directory - which means, I will
need to provide (within the Web based app I am writing) a view of the
hierarchy/architecture of the Directory and let the administrator choose
exactly which OUs to scan for computers/workstations.
Anything to get me started would really be a big help, with all your
expertise in the matter. You are definitely correct in saying that using a
GUI's undocumented API (or even if it were documented) to try and accomplish
the task of simply querying AD might not be the way to go, but I don't know
exactly what is the way to go.
Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it. And, yes, I do know that this is
all on a volunteer basis; what I meant was that the community (in other
projects and I am sure here as well) is always on hand and really passionate
about the project on which they work. I myself have answered (asked more
than answered) questions posed on various mailing lists. Needless to say, I
do not always have the answers, but I understand that this is not something
you are paid to do - that makes it all the more appreciated.
Thanks,
EC
On 2/1/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> oops. I guess I just click on reply...
>
> I don't know... It has worked for me a few minutes ago. The sad point is
> that apacheds-tools is buggy on the nighty build. I just opened an issue
> about it :
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSERVER-838
>
> On 2/1/07, Elie Ciment < eciment@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > By the way, I just realized - yo replied to me personally, and not the
> > user list.
> >
> > And, once I've got you - I can't seem to download the nightly from iktek
> > - it just hangs for a while. Any ideas?
> >
> > -EC
> >
> > On 2/1/07, Elie Ciment <eciment@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help. I'll check out the others, now, I guess...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > On 2/1/07, Emmanuel Lecharny < elecharny@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, I cannot use LDAPStudio classes for querying AD, and I should
> > > > > use OpenLDAP or JNDI?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, LdapStudio is meant to be a GUI, not an API, so if you want to
> > > > use its code base to qyuey any ldap server, you will have to go deep
into
> > > > the code to do it. Of course this is possible, but this is not
really the
> > > > simplest way to go...
> > > >
> > > > The reason I wanted to use Apache Directory (LDAPStudio) classes is
> > > > > because as an ASF project I know that there was a lot of thought
put into
> > > > > the design of the code and that there will be an active mailing
list for
> > > > > support when needed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure :) But it was not inended to be used the way you want. Anyway,
> > > > it can be done. Let me find the place in the code where we build the
ldap
> > > > messages and send them to the server... (will take a little while)
> > > >
> > > > I feel that with all open source projects in the ASF you can turn to
> > > > > them for help and somebody's always there for you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > well, that's not exactly how it works :) but basically, you can push
> > > > a mail, and if somebody has an answer, you will get it ... Remember
that
> > > > people at apache are all volunteers, and are also pretty busy ;)
> > > >
> > > > In addition, Apache will go through the trouble of finding the right
> > > > > code to use, ie OpenLDAP and JNDI. So, using those classes that
Apache
> > > > > builds which make the most of the underlying classes - much better
than a
> > > > > beginner would - I would love to just take a pre-bundled project
that is
> > > > > easy to use.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not sure that they are easy to use at all... (and I'm not really
> > > > proud of this, as I wrote part of them ...) At some point, we should
provide
> > > > a kind of API like JLdap is.
> > > >
> > > > Remember that any API has a learning curve, and you won't avoid to
> > > > spend some time on it. Apache won't do this for you :)
> > > >
> > > > Does that make sense?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > EC
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/31/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <elecharny@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elie Ciment a écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse
> > > > > > plugin, which
> > > > > > > now links to directory.apache.org .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, the nighty build is - temporarily - available here :
> > > > > > http://www.iktek.com/index.jsp?rubrique=ads
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is *not* a release, but a build done every nigth at 2am
> > > > > > UTC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The release will be available very soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio
> > > > > > without the
> > > > > > > front end - I want to query Active Directory without having
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > presentation
> > > > > > > handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in
> > > > > > my Struts
> > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best
> > > > > > solution would
> > > > > > be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the OpenLdap
> > > > > > API for
> > > > > > java ( http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emmanuel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > EC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cordialement,
> > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > > www.iktek.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
--
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
Fwd: Microsoft AD
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Also forward this mail to users ML
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 1, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Microsoft AD
To: elecharny@iktek.com
Aha. Any suggested code to get me started? Say, using JNDI. I don't know
much about LDAP or JNDI; what I do know is that I can access AD through
Java, because I have opened up the LDAPBrowser in Eclipse and can see
everything.
My problem is that I am not looking for a browser, but rather for the
functionality of the browser. I want to be able to take an invrentory of the
network based on the entries found in Active Directory - which means, I will
need to provide (within the Web based app I am writing) a view of the
hierarchy/architecture of the Directory and let the administrator choose
exactly which OUs to scan for computers/workstations.
Anything to get me started would really be a big help, with all your
expertise in the matter. You are definitely correct in saying that using a
GUI's undocumented API (or even if it were documented) to try and accomplish
the task of simply querying AD might not be the way to go, but I don't know
exactly what is the way to go.
Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it. And, yes, I do know that this is
all on a volunteer basis; what I meant was that the community (in other
projects and I am sure here as well) is always on hand and really passionate
about the project on which they work. I myself have answered (asked more
than answered) questions posed on various mailing lists. Needless to say, I
do not always have the answers, but I understand that this is not something
you are paid to do - that makes it all the more appreciated.
Thanks,
EC
On 2/1/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> oops. I guess I just click on reply...
>
> I don't know... It has worked for me a few minutes ago. The sad point is
> that apacheds-tools is buggy on the nighty build. I just opened an issue
> about it :
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSERVER-838
>
> On 2/1/07, Elie Ciment < eciment@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > By the way, I just realized - yo replied to me personally, and not the
> > user list.
> >
> > And, once I've got you - I can't seem to download the nightly from iktek
> > - it just hangs for a while. Any ideas?
> >
> > -EC
> >
> > On 2/1/07, Elie Ciment <eciment@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help. I'll check out the others, now, I guess...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > On 2/1/07, Emmanuel Lecharny < elecharny@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, I cannot use LDAPStudio classes for querying AD, and I should
> > > > > use OpenLDAP or JNDI?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, LdapStudio is meant to be a GUI, not an API, so if you want to
> > > > use its code base to qyuey any ldap server, you will have to go deep into
> > > > the code to do it. Of course this is possible, but this is not really the
> > > > simplest way to go...
> > > >
> > > > The reason I wanted to use Apache Directory (LDAPStudio) classes is
> > > > > because as an ASF project I know that there was a lot of thought put into
> > > > > the design of the code and that there will be an active mailing list for
> > > > > support when needed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure :) But it was not inended to be used the way you want. Anyway,
> > > > it can be done. Let me find the place in the code where we build the ldap
> > > > messages and send them to the server... (will take a little while)
> > > >
> > > > I feel that with all open source projects in the ASF you can turn to
> > > > > them for help and somebody's always there for you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > well, that's not exactly how it works :) but basically, you can push
> > > > a mail, and if somebody has an answer, you will get it ... Remember that
> > > > people at apache are all volunteers, and are also pretty busy ;)
> > > >
> > > > In addition, Apache will go through the trouble of finding the right
> > > > > code to use, ie OpenLDAP and JNDI. So, using those classes that Apache
> > > > > builds which make the most of the underlying classes - much better than a
> > > > > beginner would - I would love to just take a pre-bundled project that is
> > > > > easy to use.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not sure that they are easy to use at all... (and I'm not really
> > > > proud of this, as I wrote part of them ...) At some point, we should provide
> > > > a kind of API like JLdap is.
> > > >
> > > > Remember that any API has a learning curve, and you won't avoid to
> > > > spend some time on it. Apache won't do this for you :)
> > > >
> > > > Does that make sense?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > EC
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/31/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <elecharny@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elie Ciment a écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse
> > > > > > plugin, which
> > > > > > > now links to directory.apache.org .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, the nighty build is - temporarily - available here :
> > > > > > http://www.iktek.com/index.jsp?rubrique=ads
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is *not* a release, but a build done every nigth at 2am
> > > > > > UTC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The release will be available very soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio
> > > > > > without the
> > > > > > > front end - I want to query Active Directory without having
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > presentation
> > > > > > > handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in
> > > > > > my Struts
> > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best
> > > > > > solution would
> > > > > > be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the OpenLdap
> > > > > > API for
> > > > > > java ( http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emmanuel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > EC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cordialement,
> > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > > www.iktek.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>
--
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
Re: Microsoft AD
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
On 2/1/07, Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Aha. Any suggested code to get me started? Say, using JNDI. I don't know
> much about LDAP or JNDI; what I do know is that I can access AD through
> Java, because I have opened up the LDAPBrowser in Eclipse and can see
> everything.
the best place to get a quick start is :
http://java.sun.com/products/jndi/tutorial/
This tutorial is really good, and will allow you to write your first
requests very fast and easily.
My problem is that I am not looking for a browser, but rather for the
> functionality of the browser. I want to be able to take an invrentory of the
> network based on the entries found in Active Directory - which means, I will
> need to provide (within the Web based app I am writing) a view of the
> hierarchy/architecture of the Directory and let the administrator choose
> exactly which OUs to scan for computers/workstations.
I understand. Anyway, I do think that JNDI is the way to go. JNDI is the
standard LDAP API (not only Ldap, but that's another story), as JDBC is for
DataBase. Any other API will be specific, and the number of people being
able to give you an hand will be less important. You have many mailing lists
where you can post a question about JNDI, only one for ADS, and we are only
a few being able to help you :(
Anything to get me started would really be a big help, with all your
> expertise in the matter. You are definitely correct in saying that using a
> GUI's undocumented API (or even if it were documented) to try and accomplish
> the task of simply querying AD might not be the way to go, but I don't know
> exactly what is the way to go.
JNDI Tutorial, trust me. Not that I wan't to dump you, but even ADS is based
on JNDI as an API to send requests to it. LdapStudio is even more
complicated : requests are first converted to DSML, then to an internal
format, then translated to byte[], and sent to the server using a socket.
i'm not sure you want to handle all these dirty tricks, aren't you ?
Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it. And, yes, I do know that this is
> all on a volunteer basis; what I meant was that the community (in other
> projects and I am sure here as well) is always on hand and really passionate
> about the project on which they work. I myself have answered (asked more
> than answered) questions posed on various mailing lists. Needless to say, I
> do not always have the answers, but I understand that this is not something
> you are paid to do - that makes it all the more appreciated.
That's my pleasure !
Emmanuel
Thanks,
> EC
>
> On 2/1/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > oops. I guess I just click on reply...
> >
> > I don't know... It has worked for me a few minutes ago. The sad point is
> > that apacheds-tools is buggy on the nighty build. I just opened an issue
> > about it :
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSERVER-838
> >
> > On 2/1/07, Elie Ciment < eciment@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > By the way, I just realized - yo replied to me personally, and not the
> > > user list.
> > >
> > > And, once I've got you - I can't seem to download the nightly from
> > > iktek - it just hangs for a while. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > -EC
> > >
> > > On 2/1/07, Elie Ciment <eciment@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help. I'll check out the others, now, I guess...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > On 2/1/07, Emmanuel Lecharny < elecharny@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I cannot use LDAPStudio classes for querying AD, and I should
> > > > > > use OpenLDAP or JNDI?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, LdapStudio is meant to be a GUI, not an API, so if you want
> > > > > to use its code base to qyuey any ldap server, you will have to go deep into
> > > > > the code to do it. Of course this is possible, but this is not really the
> > > > > simplest way to go...
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason I wanted to use Apache Directory (LDAPStudio) classes
> > > > > > is because as an ASF project I know that there was a lot of thought put into
> > > > > > the design of the code and that there will be an active mailing list for
> > > > > > support when needed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure :) But it was not inended to be used the way you want.
> > > > > Anyway, it can be done. Let me find the place in the code where we build the
> > > > > ldap messages and send them to the server... (will take a little while)
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel that with all open source projects in the ASF you can turn
> > > > > > to them for help and somebody's always there for you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > well, that's not exactly how it works :) but basically, you can
> > > > > push a mail, and if somebody has an answer, you will get it ... Remember
> > > > > that people at apache are all volunteers, and are also pretty busy ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, Apache will go through the trouble of finding the
> > > > > > right code to use, ie OpenLDAP and JNDI. So, using those classes that Apache
> > > > > > builds which make the most of the underlying classes - much better than a
> > > > > > beginner would - I would love to just take a pre-bundled project that is
> > > > > > easy to use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure that they are easy to use at all... (and I'm not really
> > > > > proud of this, as I wrote part of them ...) At some point, we should provide
> > > > > a kind of API like JLdap is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember that any API has a learning curve, and you won't avoid to
> > > > > spend some time on it. Apache won't do this for you :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does that make sense?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > EC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 1/31/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <elecharny@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Elie Ciment a écrit :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the
> > > > > > > link to
> > > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse
> > > > > > > plugin, which
> > > > > > > > now links to directory.apache.org .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, the nighty build is - temporarily - available here :
> > > > > > > http://www.iktek.com/index.jsp?rubrique=ads
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is *not* a release, but a build done every nigth at 2am
> > > > > > > UTC.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The release will be available very soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio
> > > > > > > without the
> > > > > > > > front end - I want to query Active Directory without having
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > presentation
> > > > > > > > handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in
> > > > > > > my Struts
> > > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > application.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best
> > > > > > > solution would
> > > > > > > be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the
> > > > > > > OpenLdap API for
> > > > > > > java ( http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Emmanuel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > EC
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Cordialement,
> > > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > > > www.iktek.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement,
> > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > www.iktek.com
> >
>
>
--
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
Re: Microsoft AD
Posted by Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com>.
>
> > A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio without the
> > front end - I want to query Active Directory without having the
> > presentation
> > handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in my Struts
> > web
> > application.
>
> np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best solution would
> be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the OpenLdap API for
> java (http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
>
> Emmanuel
So, I cannot use LDAPStudio classes for querying AD, and I should use
OpenLDAP or JNDI? The reason I wanted to use Apache Directory (LDAPStudio)
classes is because as an ASF project I know that there was a lot of thought
put into the design of the code and that there will be an active mailing
list for support when needed. I feel that with all open source projects in
the ASF you can turn to them for help and somebody's always there for you.
In addition, Apache will go through the trouble of finding the right code to
use, ie OpenLDAP and JNDI. So, using those classes that Apache builds which
make the most of the underlying classes - much better than a beginner would
- I would love to just take a pre-bundled project that is easy to use.
Does that make sense?
Thanks,
EC
On 1/31/07, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Elie Ciment a écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link to
> > download
> > it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse plugin,
> which
> > now links to directory.apache.org .
>
> Well, the nighty build is - temporarily - available here :
> http://www.iktek.com/index.jsp?rubrique=ads
>
> This is *not* a release, but a build done every nigth at 2am UTC.
>
> The release will be available very soon.
>
> > A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio without the
> > front end - I want to query Active Directory without having the
> > presentation
> > handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in my Struts
> > web
> > application.
>
> np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best solution would
> be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the OpenLdap API for
> java (http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
>
> Emmanuel
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > EC
> >
>
>
Re: Microsoft AD
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Elie Ciment a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link to
> download
> it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse plugin, which
> now links to directory.apache.org .
Well, the nighty build is - temporarily - available here :
http://www.iktek.com/index.jsp?rubrique=ads
This is *not* a release, but a build done every nigth at 2am UTC.
The release will be available very soon.
> A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio without the
> front end - I want to query Active Directory without having the
> presentation
> handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in my Struts
> web
> application.
np at all, but no need to use LdapStudio at all. The best solution would
be either to use JNDI or (in my mind, much better), the OpenLdap API for
java (http://www.openldap.org/jldap/)
Emmanuel
>
> Thanks,
> EC
>
Microsoft AD
Posted by Elie Ciment <ec...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I am new to the LDAP Studio, and actually cannot find the link to download
it right now. I currently use / have been using the Eclipse plugin, which
now links to directory.apache.org .
I understand that the website is new TODAY, and this seems to be under way,
but I would appreciate if someone could point me to a download.
A question I have is can I leverage the code for this Studio without the
front end - I want to query Active Directory without having the presentation
handle it, but only the underlying code to incorporate it in my Struts web
application.
Thanks,
EC