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[wiki] policy proposals (fwd)

>From what I can tell, a Tapestry wiki space, using moin moin (my favorite Wiki) is prettymuch free for the asking.  Actually, they discussed that a PMC could request Wiki space, but I suspect if we vote to request a wiki space, we'll get one.

Moin moin is a much better wiki than the PHP Wiki that currently exists at SF.net. It is much better performant, has better syntax, and supports easy file uploads (as both inline images and attachements).  I've used it succesfully at WebCT for well over a year.

Of course, we would "lose" the content of the SF.net wiki ... it would be necessary to manually move pages from one to the other, updating the content to match the moin moin syntax. I can live with that (my frustration with the PHP wiki has meant that I've added very little to it in the last several months).
----------------------  Forwarded Message:  ---------------------
From:    Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>
To:      Apache Infrastructure <in...@apache.org>
Subject: [wiki] policy proposals
Date:    Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:42:29 +0100

Hi gang,

there are a few things left I believe the infrastructure
team should sign-off on or at least be aware of:

 * the infrastructure team will assume oversight
   responsibility for the oversight of
   wiki.apache.org/general.

   Makes most sense to me; after all, infrastructure are
   already in charge of the oversight on the main website(s).

   this 'general' wiki is at the moment empty and intended
   to remain mostly empty. It needs to exist basically to
   have somewhere to direct wiki.apache.org at.

   An alternative would be a seperate "president's committee"
   of some kind, or no 'general' wiki but instead some
   static pages that live in CVS. Disadvantage of that is
   the maintainance inconsistency.

 * Wikis at a more granular level (ie, wiki.apache.org/geronimo)
   are not a problem, as long as PMCs request it, the oversight
   responsibility is clear, and all this happens in good
   coordination with the infrastructure team

(I assume lazy consensus can apply, by-the-way :D).

I would also like to know if there's anything in particular
people would like to see done that is not yet mentioned in
the wiki STATUS file (I plan to get most i's dotted and t's
crossed this weekend).

enjoy sinterklaasavond!

- LSD



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Re: [wiki] policy proposals (fwd)

Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
+1

Geoff
----- Original Message -----
From: <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "Tapestry-Dev" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: [wiki] policy proposals (fwd)


> From what I can tell, a Tapestry wiki space, using moin moin (my favorite
Wiki) is prettymuch free for the asking.  Actually, they discussed that a
PMC could request Wiki space, but I suspect if we vote to request a wiki
space, we'll get one.
>
> Moin moin is a much better wiki than the PHP Wiki that currently exists at
SF.net. It is much better performant, has better syntax, and supports easy
file uploads (as both inline images and attachements).  I've used it
succesfully at WebCT for well over a year.
>
> Of course, we would "lose" the content of the SF.net wiki ... it would be
necessary to manually move pages from one to the other, updating the content
to match the moin moin syntax. I can live with that (my frustration with the
PHP wiki has meant that I've added very little to it in the last several
months).
> ----------------------  Forwarded Message:  ---------------------
> From:    Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>
> To:      Apache Infrastructure <in...@apache.org>
> Subject: [wiki] policy proposals
> Date:    Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:42:29 +0100
>
> Hi gang,
>
> there are a few things left I believe the infrastructure
> team should sign-off on or at least be aware of:
>
>  * the infrastructure team will assume oversight
>    responsibility for the oversight of
>    wiki.apache.org/general.
>
>    Makes most sense to me; after all, infrastructure are
>    already in charge of the oversight on the main website(s).
>
>    this 'general' wiki is at the moment empty and intended
>    to remain mostly empty. It needs to exist basically to
>    have somewhere to direct wiki.apache.org at.
>
>    An alternative would be a seperate "president's committee"
>    of some kind, or no 'general' wiki but instead some
>    static pages that live in CVS. Disadvantage of that is
>    the maintainance inconsistency.
>
>  * Wikis at a more granular level (ie, wiki.apache.org/geronimo)
>    are not a problem, as long as PMCs request it, the oversight
>    responsibility is clear, and all this happens in good
>    coordination with the infrastructure team
>
> (I assume lazy consensus can apply, by-the-way :D).
>
> I would also like to know if there's anything in particular
> people would like to see done that is not yet mentioned in
> the wiki STATUS file (I plan to get most i's dotted and t's
> crossed this weekend).
>
> enjoy sinterklaasavond!
>
> - LSD
>
>
>
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Re: [wiki] policy proposals (fwd)

Posted by Richard Lewis-Shell <rl...@mac.com>.
+1

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "Tapestry-Dev" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:11 AM
Subject: [wiki] policy proposals (fwd)


> From what I can tell, a Tapestry wiki space, using moin moin (my favorite
Wiki) is prettymuch free for the asking.  Actually, they discussed that a
PMC could request Wiki space, but I suspect if we vote to request a wiki
space, we'll get one.
>
> Moin moin is a much better wiki than the PHP Wiki that currently exists at
SF.net. It is much better performant, has better syntax, and supports easy
file uploads (as both inline images and attachements).  I've used it
succesfully at WebCT for well over a year.
>
> Of course, we would "lose" the content of the SF.net wiki ... it would be
necessary to manually move pages from one to the other, updating the content
to match the moin moin syntax. I can live with that (my frustration with the
PHP wiki has meant that I've added very little to it in the last several
months).
> ----------------------  Forwarded Message:  ---------------------
> From:    Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>
> To:      Apache Infrastructure <in...@apache.org>
> Subject: [wiki] policy proposals
> Date:    Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:42:29 +0100
>
> Hi gang,
>
> there are a few things left I believe the infrastructure
> team should sign-off on or at least be aware of:
>
>  * the infrastructure team will assume oversight
>    responsibility for the oversight of
>    wiki.apache.org/general.
>
>    Makes most sense to me; after all, infrastructure are
>    already in charge of the oversight on the main website(s).
>
>    this 'general' wiki is at the moment empty and intended
>    to remain mostly empty. It needs to exist basically to
>    have somewhere to direct wiki.apache.org at.
>
>    An alternative would be a seperate "president's committee"
>    of some kind, or no 'general' wiki but instead some
>    static pages that live in CVS. Disadvantage of that is
>    the maintainance inconsistency.
>
>  * Wikis at a more granular level (ie, wiki.apache.org/geronimo)
>    are not a problem, as long as PMCs request it, the oversight
>    responsibility is clear, and all this happens in good
>    coordination with the infrastructure team
>
> (I assume lazy consensus can apply, by-the-way :D).
>
> I would also like to know if there's anything in particular
> people would like to see done that is not yet mentioned in
> the wiki STATUS file (I plan to get most i's dotted and t's
> crossed this weekend).
>
> enjoy sinterklaasavond!
>
> - LSD
>
>
>
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Re: [wiki] policy proposals (fwd)

Posted by Mindbridge <mi...@yahoo.com>.
I am +1 for this.

Besides the positives, having the docs and discussion at one place makes a
lot of sense. The transfer of the Wiki content would also allow for it to be
updated and made more contemporary where there is need. I would be happy to
help when need arises.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "Tapestry-Dev" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:11 PM
Subject: [wiki] policy proposals (fwd)


> From what I can tell, a Tapestry wiki space, using moin moin (my favorite
Wiki) is prettymuch free for the asking.  Actually, they discussed that a
PMC could request Wiki space, but I suspect if we vote to request a wiki
space, we'll get one.
>
> Moin moin is a much better wiki than the PHP Wiki that currently exists at
SF.net. It is much better performant, has better syntax, and supports easy
file uploads (as both inline images and attachements).  I've used it
succesfully at WebCT for well over a year.
>
> Of course, we would "lose" the content of the SF.net wiki ... it would be
necessary to manually move pages from one to the other, updating the content
to match the moin moin syntax. I can live with that (my frustration with the
PHP wiki has meant that I've added very little to it in the last several
months).
> ----------------------  Forwarded Message:  ---------------------
> From:    Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>
> To:      Apache Infrastructure <in...@apache.org>
> Subject: [wiki] policy proposals
> Date:    Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:42:29 +0100
>
> Hi gang,
>
> there are a few things left I believe the infrastructure
> team should sign-off on or at least be aware of:
>
>  * the infrastructure team will assume oversight
>    responsibility for the oversight of
>    wiki.apache.org/general.
>
>    Makes most sense to me; after all, infrastructure are
>    already in charge of the oversight on the main website(s).
>
>    this 'general' wiki is at the moment empty and intended
>    to remain mostly empty. It needs to exist basically to
>    have somewhere to direct wiki.apache.org at.
>
>    An alternative would be a seperate "president's committee"
>    of some kind, or no 'general' wiki but instead some
>    static pages that live in CVS. Disadvantage of that is
>    the maintainance inconsistency.
>
>  * Wikis at a more granular level (ie, wiki.apache.org/geronimo)
>    are not a problem, as long as PMCs request it, the oversight
>    responsibility is clear, and all this happens in good
>    coordination with the infrastructure team
>
> (I assume lazy consensus can apply, by-the-way :D).
>
> I would also like to know if there's anything in particular
> people would like to see done that is not yet mentioned in
> the wiki STATUS file (I plan to get most i's dotted and t's
> crossed this weekend).
>
> enjoy sinterklaasavond!
>
> - LSD
>
>
>
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Re: [wiki] policy proposals (fwd)

Posted by Harish Krishnaswamy <hk...@comcast.net>.
+1

-Harish

hlship@comcast.net wrote:
>>>From what I can tell, a Tapestry wiki space, using moin moin (my favorite Wiki) is prettymuch free for the asking.  Actually, they discussed that a PMC could request Wiki space, but I suspect if we vote to request a wiki space, we'll get one.
> 
> Moin moin is a much better wiki than the PHP Wiki that currently exists at SF.net. It is much better performant, has better syntax, and supports easy file uploads (as both inline images and attachements).  I've used it succesfully at WebCT for well over a year.
> 
> Of course, we would "lose" the content of the SF.net wiki ... it would be necessary to manually move pages from one to the other, updating the content to match the moin moin syntax. I can live with that (my frustration with the PHP wiki has meant that I've added very little to it in the last several months).
> ----------------------  Forwarded Message:  ---------------------
> From:    Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>
> To:      Apache Infrastructure <in...@apache.org>
> Subject: [wiki] policy proposals
> Date:    Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:42:29 +0100
> 
> Hi gang,
> 
> there are a few things left I believe the infrastructure
> team should sign-off on or at least be aware of:
> 
>  * the infrastructure team will assume oversight
>    responsibility for the oversight of
>    wiki.apache.org/general.
> 
>    Makes most sense to me; after all, infrastructure are
>    already in charge of the oversight on the main website(s).
> 
>    this 'general' wiki is at the moment empty and intended
>    to remain mostly empty. It needs to exist basically to
>    have somewhere to direct wiki.apache.org at.
> 
>    An alternative would be a seperate "president's committee"
>    of some kind, or no 'general' wiki but instead some
>    static pages that live in CVS. Disadvantage of that is
>    the maintainance inconsistency.
> 
>  * Wikis at a more granular level (ie, wiki.apache.org/geronimo)
>    are not a problem, as long as PMCs request it, the oversight
>    responsibility is clear, and all this happens in good
>    coordination with the infrastructure team
> 
> (I assume lazy consensus can apply, by-the-way :D).
> 
> I would also like to know if there's anything in particular
> people would like to see done that is not yet mentioned in
> the wiki STATUS file (I plan to get most i's dotted and t's
> crossed this weekend).
> 
> enjoy sinterklaasavond!
> 
> - LSD
> 
> 
> 
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