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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> on 2005/07/15 14:06:31 UTC
WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)
Simon,
This is not the right forum, we should move this to legal-discuss. i
will answer here since we are still treating TSIK under incubation.
All public knowledge about about WS-Security are just "claims"[1]. No
one has given us OR made any public statement of specific patents
(from BM/MSFT/Versign) that are applicable to WS-Security. If u ask me
it is FUD till they tell us which patents are infringed. Please note
that the IPR statement is dated "OASIS 26 June 2002". So EVEN if they
have applications pending on that date, they would have been resolved
one way or another by now. BUT yet, there is stony silence on which
specific patents are in question.
thanks,
dims
[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/ipr.php
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Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:51 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Great!!! So we can make a release of WSS4J and get the code from TSIK.
> Right?
AFAIK, yes. +1 from me.
....Roy
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Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:51 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Great!!! So we can make a release of WSS4J and get the code from TSIK.
> Right?
AFAIK, yes. +1 from me.
....Roy
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Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Great!!! So we can make a release of WSS4J and get the code from TSIK. Right?
-- dims
On 7/15/05, Roy T. Fielding <fi...@gbiv.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:06 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > All public knowledge about about WS-Security are just "claims"[1]. No
> > one has given us OR made any public statement of specific patents
> > (from BM/MSFT/Versign) that are applicable to WS-Security.
>
> > [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/ipr.php
>
> Umm, that statement isn't even a claim. It is a commitment to license
> if there ever will be a claim. You can and should ignore it.
>
> > If u ask me
> > it is FUD till they tell us which patents are infringed. Please note
> > that the IPR statement is dated "OASIS 26 June 2002". So EVEN if they
> > have applications pending on that date, they would have been resolved
> > one way or another by now. BUT yet, there is stony silence on which
> > specific patents are in question.
>
> That's because there are no public patents in question, so they
> cannot respond to your queries. The only ones you need to worry
> about are the actual approved patents that the patent holder
> does specifically claim.
>
> ....Roy
>
>
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Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Great!!! So we can make a release of WSS4J and get the code from TSIK. Right?
-- dims
On 7/15/05, Roy T. Fielding <fi...@gbiv.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:06 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > All public knowledge about about WS-Security are just "claims"[1]. No
> > one has given us OR made any public statement of specific patents
> > (from BM/MSFT/Versign) that are applicable to WS-Security.
>
> > [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/ipr.php
>
> Umm, that statement isn't even a claim. It is a commitment to license
> if there ever will be a claim. You can and should ignore it.
>
> > If u ask me
> > it is FUD till they tell us which patents are infringed. Please note
> > that the IPR statement is dated "OASIS 26 June 2002". So EVEN if they
> > have applications pending on that date, they would have been resolved
> > one way or another by now. BUT yet, there is stony silence on which
> > specific patents are in question.
>
> That's because there are no public patents in question, so they
> cannot respond to your queries. The only ones you need to worry
> about are the actual approved patents that the patent holder
> does specifically claim.
>
> ....Roy
>
>
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Re: WS-Security / TSIK (Re: [VOTE] Graduate Beehive into a TLP)
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:06 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> All public knowledge about about WS-Security are just "claims"[1]. No
> one has given us OR made any public statement of specific patents
> (from BM/MSFT/Versign) that are applicable to WS-Security.
> [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/wss/ipr.php
Umm, that statement isn't even a claim. It is a commitment to license
if there ever will be a claim. You can and should ignore it.
> If u ask me
> it is FUD till they tell us which patents are infringed. Please note
> that the IPR statement is dated "OASIS 26 June 2002". So EVEN if they
> have applications pending on that date, they would have been resolved
> one way or another by now. BUT yet, there is stony silence on which
> specific patents are in question.
That's because there are no public patents in question, so they
cannot respond to your queries. The only ones you need to worry
about are the actual approved patents that the patent holder
does specifically claim.
....Roy
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