Does -r reject or discard

[Steven Stern <su...@sterndata.com>]

We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10".  Does this reject the message 
(causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just discard it? If it's a 
reject, how can I change it to a discard?

I'm asking because I'm seeing stuff in our outgoing mail queue that 
looks like reject messages.

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    Steve

Re: Does -r reject or discard

[Ed Kasky <ed...@esson.net>]

At 07:56 AM Friday, 4/15/2005, you wrote -=>
>We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10".  Does this reject the message 
>(causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just discard it? If it's a reject, 
>how can I change it to a discard?
>
>I'm asking because I'm seeing stuff in our outgoing mail queue that looks 
>like reject messages.

Neither.  From the man page:

-r, --report  Report message as spam

Spamassassin does not handle the rejection or deletion of email.  If you 
are using sendmail and procmail, then you would create a procmail recipe to 
accomplish the actual handling of the mail based on your criteria for 
rejection/deletion.

However, as has been discussed on this list, automatic rejection based on a 
spam score alone is not advisable if you want to prevent rejecting false 
positives.  I still get an occasional false positive.

Ed Kasky
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Re: Does -r reject or discard

[Steven Stern <su...@sterndata.com>]

Todd Lyons wrote:
> Steven Stern wanted us to know:
> 
> 
>>We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10".  Does this reject the message 
>>(causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just discard it? If it's a 
>>reject, how can I change it to a discard?
> 
> 
> It rejects it at the SMTP level before sendmail ever accepts it, so the
> sending MTA is responsible for generating the bounce message, not your
> machine.
> 
> 
>>I'm asking because I'm seeing stuff in our outgoing mail queue that 
>>looks like reject messages.
> 
> 
> That means that something that your system tried to send something and
> some other MTA rejected the message.
>

Thanks to everyone.  Turns out this was a false alarm. The stuff in the
outgoing mail queue as an artifact of a side effect of a screw up in
main mail server. The edge server couldn't relay to the Exchange server
that hosts the mail accounts and the messages I saw were the "couldn't
deliver for 4 hours" messages that were being bounced back to spam
messages that were below the rejection threshold.

-- 

    Steve

RE: Does -r reject or discard

[martin smith <ma...@ntlworld.com>]

M>-----Original Message-----
M>From: Steven Stern 
M>Sent: 15 April 2005 15:56
M>To: spamass-milt-list@nongnu.org; spamass
M>Subject: Does -r reject or discard
M>
M>We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10".  Does this reject 
M>the message (causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just 
M>discard it? If it's a reject, how can I change it to a discard?
M>
M>I'm asking because I'm seeing stuff in our outgoing mail 
M>queue that looks like reject messages.
M>
M>-- 
M>
M>    Steve
M>

Hi Steve

-r option tells sendmail to reject the message if it exceeds a given score.

Best I can see u can do is redirect a tagged msg with -b maybe to a none
excistent address, but that would be at whatever score u have spamassassin
set to tag spam

Martin