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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Brian Behlendorf <br...@hyperreal.org> on 1998/03/09 21:33:20 UTC

Apache wins CNet award for excellence

http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Special/Iawards98/ss02.html

aarg, they called it "freeware".  Is it worth bothering them about?

	Brian


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Re: Apache wins CNet award for excellence

Posted by Alexei Kosut <ak...@leland.Stanford.EDU>.
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Brian Behlendorf wrote:

> http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Special/Iawards98/ss02.html
> 
> aarg, they called it "freeware".  Is it worth bothering them about?

Er... Apache *is* freeware, last I checked.

Unless someone decided to start charging for it, and didn't tell me. Which
would be bad, because if the Apache Group is going to start selling
Apache, I definitely want a cut ;)

-- Alexei Kosut <ak...@stanford.edu> <http://www.stanford.edu/~akosut/>
   Stanford University, Class of 2001 * Apache <http://www.apache.org> *



Re: Apache wins CNet award for excellence

Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Marc Slemko wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Dean Gaudet wrote:
> 
> > I kind of like "open source code", see www.opensource.org.
> 
> I don't like that term just because of the bad taste that the term "open"
> leaves in my ear.

Wow.  Do you listen with your nose?  Life must be really interesting.
<g>

#ken	P-)}

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Apache Group member         <http://www.apache.org/>
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Re: Apache wins CNet award for excellence

Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@organic.com>.
Right.  I'd also like a term which emphasized what really is cool about
Apache; not it's cost, but that the source code is published and available
to everyone.  Oh yeah, and it kicks ass.  Could we call it "kickassware"?

	Brian

At 04:56 PM 3/9/98 -0800, Dean Gaudet wrote:
>As opposed to microsoft calling IE freeware because it's free of cost? 
>Not that they have yet that I know of.  Personally I'd kind of like a term
>which has at least a legal meaning which can't be abused like that. 
>
>Dean
>
>On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Marc Slemko wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Dean Gaudet wrote:
>> 
>> > I kind of like "open source code", see www.opensource.org. 
>> 
>> I don't like that term just because of the bad taste that the term "open" 
>> leaves in my ear. 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Dean
>> > 
>> > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Marc Slemko wrote:
>> > 
>> > > It is really freeware.  I don't like the term either, but it is the
>> > > closest thing that fits.  Freeware does not imply not copyrighted.
public
>> > > domain implies that.
>> > > 
>> > > I prefer "freely available", but that is hard to explain.
>> > > 
>> > > I would have been more pleased if cnet went more into reasons why to
use
>> > > Apache (ie. not just it is free, everyone else does, and it works),
but it
>> > > is nice to see them making that pick even though it means little.
>> > > 
>> > > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Special/Iawards98/ss02.html
>> > > > 
>> > > > aarg, they called it "freeware".  Is it worth bothering them about?
>> > > > 
>> > > > 	Brian
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > >
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>> > > > "Optimism is a strategy for making
brian@apache.org
>> > > > a better future." - Noam Chomsky
brian@hyperreal.org
>> > > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > 
>> 
>> 
>
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Re: Apache wins CNet award for excellence

Posted by Dean Gaudet <dg...@arctic.org>.
As opposed to microsoft calling IE freeware because it's free of cost? 
Not that they have yet that I know of.  Personally I'd kind of like a term
which has at least a legal meaning which can't be abused like that. 

Dean

On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Marc Slemko wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Dean Gaudet wrote:
> 
> > I kind of like "open source code", see www.opensource.org. 
> 
> I don't like that term just because of the bad taste that the term "open" 
> leaves in my ear. 
> 
> > 
> > Dean
> > 
> > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Marc Slemko wrote:
> > 
> > > It is really freeware.  I don't like the term either, but it is the
> > > closest thing that fits.  Freeware does not imply not copyrighted.  public
> > > domain implies that.
> > > 
> > > I prefer "freely available", but that is hard to explain.
> > > 
> > > I would have been more pleased if cnet went more into reasons why to use
> > > Apache (ie. not just it is free, everyone else does, and it works), but it
> > > is nice to see them making that pick even though it means little.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> > > 
> > > > http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Special/Iawards98/ss02.html
> > > > 
> > > > aarg, they called it "freeware".  Is it worth bothering them about?
> > > > 
> > > > 	Brian
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
> > > > "Optimism is a strategy for making                         brian@apache.org
> > > > a better future." - Noam Chomsky                        brian@hyperreal.org
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 


Re: Apache wins CNet award for excellence

Posted by Marc Slemko <ma...@worldgate.com>.
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Dean Gaudet wrote:

> I kind of like "open source code", see www.opensource.org. 

I don't like that term just because of the bad taste that the term "open" 
leaves in my ear. 

> 
> Dean
> 
> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Marc Slemko wrote:
> 
> > It is really freeware.  I don't like the term either, but it is the
> > closest thing that fits.  Freeware does not imply not copyrighted.  public
> > domain implies that.
> > 
> > I prefer "freely available", but that is hard to explain.
> > 
> > I would have been more pleased if cnet went more into reasons why to use
> > Apache (ie. not just it is free, everyone else does, and it works), but it
> > is nice to see them making that pick even though it means little.
> > 
> > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> > 
> > > http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Special/Iawards98/ss02.html
> > > 
> > > aarg, they called it "freeware".  Is it worth bothering them about?
> > > 
> > > 	Brian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
> > > "Optimism is a strategy for making                         brian@apache.org
> > > a better future." - Noam Chomsky                        brian@hyperreal.org
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 


Re: Apache wins CNet award for excellence

Posted by Dean Gaudet <dg...@arctic.org>.
I kind of like "open source code", see www.opensource.org. 

Dean

On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Marc Slemko wrote:

> It is really freeware.  I don't like the term either, but it is the
> closest thing that fits.  Freeware does not imply not copyrighted.  public
> domain implies that.
> 
> I prefer "freely available", but that is hard to explain.
> 
> I would have been more pleased if cnet went more into reasons why to use
> Apache (ie. not just it is free, everyone else does, and it works), but it
> is nice to see them making that pick even though it means little.
> 
> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> 
> > http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Special/Iawards98/ss02.html
> > 
> > aarg, they called it "freeware".  Is it worth bothering them about?
> > 
> > 	Brian
> > 
> > 
> > --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
> > "Optimism is a strategy for making                         brian@apache.org
> > a better future." - Noam Chomsky                        brian@hyperreal.org
> > 
> 
> 


Re: Apache wins CNet award for excellence

Posted by Marc Slemko <ma...@worldgate.com>.
It is really freeware.  I don't like the term either, but it is the
closest thing that fits.  Freeware does not imply not copyrighted.  public
domain implies that.

I prefer "freely available", but that is hard to explain.

I would have been more pleased if cnet went more into reasons why to use
Apache (ie. not just it is free, everyone else does, and it works), but it
is nice to see them making that pick even though it means little.

On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Brian Behlendorf wrote:

> http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Special/Iawards98/ss02.html
> 
> aarg, they called it "freeware".  Is it worth bothering them about?
> 
> 	Brian
> 
> 
> --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
> "Optimism is a strategy for making                         brian@apache.org
> a better future." - Noam Chomsky                        brian@hyperreal.org
>