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Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
???
Hi,
I noticed that since last week I got always an extensions update for the
bundled English dictionary when I work/test with a new profile.
We bundle 2 dictionaries which seems to be English. I am not sure what
the difference is or which one should be used. I am wondering why it is
different and why nl and ru doesn't bundle the same as en*, de or it.
[ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ]
3c3f841f5d40403bcc4d6bb685a38160
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/1/dict-en.oxt/download
"dict-en.oxt"
# English (USA, en_US) dictionary
[ language==nl || language==ru ]
e2eab80772ab1aa09716954219351a80
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/1470/1/en_US.oxt/download
"en_US.oxt"
But more confusing do I find the fact that the notified update download
a dictionary with the name "dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt". What is
this for an dictionary and is it correct that it uses the same extension
identifier than "dict-en.oxt". Why is the name part of the file name?
If this is the intended new one I would suggest to update the existing
"dict-en.oxt" asap that we bundle this new one. Or if not use a
different extension identifier.
We should avoid that we bundle an old dictionary with 4.1 and all new
users get directly an extension update.
Any further information from people who knows more about the details?
Juergen
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 2/4/14 2:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> I noticed that since last week I got always an extensions update for the
>> bundled English dictionary when I work/test with a new profile.
>
> This is expected and it has been discussed extensively on both the l10n
> and dev list. The best way to catch up is probably that you look for
> messages from Marco Pinto.
>
>> We bundle 2 dictionaries which seems to be English. I am not sure what
>> the difference is or which one should be used. I am wondering why it is
>> different and why nl and ru doesn't bundle the same as en*, de or it.
>
> One is a dictionary for multiple variants of English (en-US, en-GB...);
> the other one is for en-US only.
>
>> [ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ]
>> 3c3f841f5d40403bcc4d6bb685a38160
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/1/dict-en.oxt/download
>>
>> "dict-en.oxt"
>
> This needs to be updated, it's documented here
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127
> and I will take care of it later this week.
>
>> But more confusing do I find the fact that the notified update download
>> a dictionary with the name "dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt". What is
>> this for an dictionary and is it correct that it uses the same extension
>> identifier than "dict-en.oxt". Why is the name part of the file name?
>
> It is correct, since the extension was reassigned to Marco after he
> volunteered to make new releases. The fact that the OXT is named
> dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt and not simply dict-en.oxt should
> indeed be fixed, it doesn't harm but it's easier to be consistent.
>
>> If this is the intended new one I would suggest to update the existing
>> "dict-en.oxt" asap that we bundle this new one. Or if not use a
>> different extension identifier.
>
> Identifier must be the same, see above. But indeed let's simplify the
> name in Marco's next release.
>
>> We should avoid that we bundle an old dictionary with 4.1 and all new
>> users get directly an extension update.
>
> Obviously. Again, this has been discussed at length on the l10n and dev
> lists.
>
>> Any further information from people who knows more about the details?
>
> I think I summarized most of the discussion. But looking for messages
> from Marco in the l10n and dev archives will bring you up-to-date. And
> the next actions would be:
> 1) Marco releases his next update during this week (or at his earliest
> convenience) and names it simply dict-en.oxt
> 2) I address https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127
> bundling his new version.
> 3) We keep the dictionary frozen until 4.1 is released, publishing new
> versions only some weeks after release.
>
thanks for the summary, I haven't followed the related thread in detail.
All is fine to me, I just wanted to raise awareness for this once again
because we are going closer towards AOO 4.1.
Juergen
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
???
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> I noticed that since last week I got always an extensions update for the
> bundled English dictionary when I work/test with a new profile.
This is expected and it has been discussed extensively on both the l10n
and dev list. The best way to catch up is probably that you look for
messages from Marco Pinto.
> We bundle 2 dictionaries which seems to be English. I am not sure what
> the difference is or which one should be used. I am wondering why it is
> different and why nl and ru doesn't bundle the same as en*, de or it.
One is a dictionary for multiple variants of English (en-US, en-GB...);
the other one is for en-US only.
> [ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ]
> 3c3f841f5d40403bcc4d6bb685a38160
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/1/dict-en.oxt/download
> "dict-en.oxt"
This needs to be updated, it's documented here
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127
and I will take care of it later this week.
> But more confusing do I find the fact that the notified update download
> a dictionary with the name "dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt". What is
> this for an dictionary and is it correct that it uses the same extension
> identifier than "dict-en.oxt". Why is the name part of the file name?
It is correct, since the extension was reassigned to Marco after he
volunteered to make new releases. The fact that the OXT is named
dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt and not simply dict-en.oxt should
indeed be fixed, it doesn't harm but it's easier to be consistent.
> If this is the intended new one I would suggest to update the existing
> "dict-en.oxt" asap that we bundle this new one. Or if not use a
> different extension identifier.
Identifier must be the same, see above. But indeed let's simplify the
name in Marco's next release.
> We should avoid that we bundle an old dictionary with 4.1 and all new
> users get directly an extension update.
Obviously. Again, this has been discussed at length on the l10n and dev
lists.
> Any further information from people who knows more about the details?
I think I summarized most of the discussion. But looking for messages
from Marco in the l10n and dev archives will bring you up-to-date. And
the next actions would be:
1) Marco releases his next update during this week (or at his earliest
convenience) and names it simply dict-en.oxt
2) I address https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127
bundling his new version.
3) We keep the dictionary frozen until 4.1 is released, publishing new
versions only some weeks after release.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
> Also, when I try the direct link which worked in the past, it says I am
> not authorised (access denied):
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice
Everything works normally for me now. I see the new version and I will
update the OpenOffice source code accordingly as soon as possible.
Follow-up in the issue page.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
???
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
> Also, when I try the direct link which worked in the past, it says I am
> not authorised (access denied):
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice
Everything works normally for me now. I see the new version and I will
update the OpenOffice source code accordingly as soon as possible.
Follow-up in the issue page.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by "Marco A.G.Pinto" <ma...@mail.telepac.pt>.
Hello Andrea,
I did like you told me.
I was able to make it appear in my account moments ago, but it says to
e-mail the aooadmin@users.sourceforge.net.
Also, when I try the direct link which worked in the past, it says I am
not authorised (access denied):
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice
Could you help?
Thanks!
Kind regards,
>Marco A.G.Pinto
-----------------------
On 09/02/2014 23:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 04/02/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
>> In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
>> V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
>> new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
>
> To be clear: what we want to avoid is that 4.1 is released and people
> downloading it are immediately prompted for a dictionary update. This,
> at least, for the first few weeks after release.
>
> I've now updated the dictionary in the source code to Marco's latest
> release. So (this is mainly for Marco):
> - if you have important updates that you want in 4.1 please upload a
> new release immediately and reopen
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 ; otherwise, 4.1
> will ship with the current version (your latest version so far).
> - please name the OXT file simply "dict-en.oxt" in future versions;
> there is no need for a unique name, and I currently rename it to
> "dict-en.oxt" during the build process. We check the MD5 hash to make
> sure we have the right file.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Anyway, I confirm Pedro fixed it in the new release
That was meant to be "Marco". By the way, even though this is fixed now,
I'd like to check this since in other cases we bundle dictionaries that
we have no control on, so in those cases the "rename at bootstrap time"
trick could be helpful, provided someone confirms it works.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 11/02/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 2/10/14 9:17 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
>> On 10.02.2014 00:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> - please name the OXT file simply "dict-en.oxt" in future versions;
>>> there is no need for a unique name, and I currently rename it to
>>> "dict-en.oxt" during the build process. ...
>> When we will build
>> patches, a different dictionary file name would result in the dictionary
> ... The upcoming snapshot build
> uses the wrong name and the patch will be bigger than normally and
> potential test will be different.
Why? We rename it at ./bootstrap time, so the filename the extension has
on the Extensions site should be totally irrelevant.
Anyway, I confirm Pedro fixed it in the new release, that is already
integrated in trunk but not in the coming snapshot (it will be in the
next one, if somebody is confused).
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 2/10/14 9:17 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
> On 10.02.2014 00:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 04/02/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
>>> In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
>>> V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
>>> new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
>>
>> To be clear: what we want to avoid is that 4.1 is released and people
>> downloading it are immediately prompted for a dictionary update. This,
>> at least, for the first few weeks after release.
>>
>> I've now updated the dictionary in the source code to Marco's latest
>> release. So (this is mainly for Marco):
>> - if you have important updates that you want in 4.1 please upload a
>> new release immediately and reopen
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 ; otherwise, 4.1
>> will ship with the current version (your latest version so far).
>> - please name the OXT file simply "dict-en.oxt" in future versions;
>> there is no need for a unique name, and I currently rename it to
>> "dict-en.oxt" during the build process. We check the MD5 hash to make
>> sure we have the right file.
>
> By the way, keeping the old name is not just important to avoid
> confusion of developers or release managers. When we will build
> patches, a different dictionary file name would result in the dictionary
> appearing twice in the patch: the old dictionary as negative diff (to
> remove it) and the new dictionary as regular, positive diff (to add
> it). That might easily double the size of the patch.
I saw that the name is changed back thanks. But it would have been nice
to avoid such useless changes the next time. The upcoming snapshot build
uses the wrong name and the patch will be bigger than normally and
potential test will be different.
Building and providing the whole stuff is no fun and maybe some other
people will volunteer for this after 4.1 ;-)
Juergen
>
> -Andre
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>.
On 10.02.2014 00:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 04/02/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
>> In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
>> V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
>> new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
>
> To be clear: what we want to avoid is that 4.1 is released and people
> downloading it are immediately prompted for a dictionary update. This,
> at least, for the first few weeks after release.
>
> I've now updated the dictionary in the source code to Marco's latest
> release. So (this is mainly for Marco):
> - if you have important updates that you want in 4.1 please upload a
> new release immediately and reopen
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 ; otherwise, 4.1
> will ship with the current version (your latest version so far).
> - please name the OXT file simply "dict-en.oxt" in future versions;
> there is no need for a unique name, and I currently rename it to
> "dict-en.oxt" during the build process. We check the MD5 hash to make
> sure we have the right file.
By the way, keeping the old name is not just important to avoid
confusion of developers or release managers. When we will build
patches, a different dictionary file name would result in the dictionary
appearing twice in the patch: the old dictionary as negative diff (to
remove it) and the new dictionary as regular, positive diff (to add
it). That might easily double the size of the patch.
-Andre
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by "Marco A.G.Pinto" <ma...@mail.telepac.pt>.
Hello Andrea,
I did like you told me.
I was able to make it appear in my account moments ago, but it says to
e-mail the aooadmin@users.sourceforge.net.
Also, when I try the direct link which worked in the past, it says I am
not authorised (access denied):
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice
Could you help?
Thanks!
Kind regards,
>Marco A.G.Pinto
-----------------------
On 09/02/2014 23:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 04/02/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
>> In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
>> V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
>> new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
>
> To be clear: what we want to avoid is that 4.1 is released and people
> downloading it are immediately prompted for a dictionary update. This,
> at least, for the first few weeks after release.
>
> I've now updated the dictionary in the source code to Marco's latest
> release. So (this is mainly for Marco):
> - if you have important updates that you want in 4.1 please upload a
> new release immediately and reopen
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 ; otherwise, 4.1
> will ship with the current version (your latest version so far).
> - please name the OXT file simply "dict-en.oxt" in future versions;
> there is no need for a unique name, and I currently rename it to
> "dict-en.oxt" during the build process. We check the MD5 hash to make
> sure we have the right file.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
???
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 04/02/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
> In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
> V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
> new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
To be clear: what we want to avoid is that 4.1 is released and people
downloading it are immediately prompted for a dictionary update. This,
at least, for the first few weeks after release.
I've now updated the dictionary in the source code to Marco's latest
release. So (this is mainly for Marco):
- if you have important updates that you want in 4.1 please upload a new
release immediately and reopen
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 ; otherwise, 4.1
will ship with the current version (your latest version so far).
- please name the OXT file simply "dict-en.oxt" in future versions;
there is no need for a unique name, and I currently rename it to
"dict-en.oxt" during the build process. We check the MD5 hash to make
sure we have the right file.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
???
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 04/02/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
> In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
> V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
> new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
To be clear: what we want to avoid is that 4.1 is released and people
downloading it are immediately prompted for a dictionary update. This,
at least, for the first few weeks after release.
I've now updated the dictionary in the source code to Marco's latest
release. So (this is mainly for Marco):
- if you have important updates that you want in 4.1 please upload a new
release immediately and reopen
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127 ; otherwise, 4.1
will ship with the current version (your latest version so far).
- please name the OXT file simply "dict-en.oxt" in future versions;
there is no need for a unique name, and I currently rename it to
"dict-en.oxt" during the build process. We check the MD5 hash to make
sure we have the right file.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
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Posted by "Marco A.G.Pinto" <ma...@mail.telepac.pt>.
Hello Jürgen,
This is what the update is about:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice
*"*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*
**English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.**
**
**These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.**
**
**It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)**
**
**
**This is a locally hosted copy of the <a
href="http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785">English
dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and phonetic
suggestion support</a> extension.**
**"*
In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
The site of my project, so that you know why I have embraced the project is:
http://marcoagpinto.cidadevirtual.pt/proofingtoolgui.html
I spoke yesterday on IRC with JZA (Alexandro Colorado) about some things
that need to be improved.
I wanted also to update the en_US and add a New Zealand dictionary too,
but I need some time to write a big e-mail contacting the right people
and planning some things.
If you need any more information, just ask :-P
Thanks!
Kind regards,
>Marco A.G.Pinto
-----------------------
On 04/02/2014 12:30, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that since last week I got always an extensions update for the
> bundled English dictionary when I work/test with a new profile.
>
> We bundle 2 dictionaries which seems to be English. I am not sure what
> the difference is or which one should be used. I am wondering why it is
> different and why nl and ru doesn't bundle the same as en*, de or it.
>
> [ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ]
> 3c3f841f5d40403bcc4d6bb685a38160
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/1/dict-en.oxt/download
> "dict-en.oxt"
>
> # English (USA, en_US) dictionary
> [ language==nl || language==ru ]
> e2eab80772ab1aa09716954219351a80
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/1470/1/en_US.oxt/download
> "en_US.oxt"
>
> But more confusing do I find the fact that the notified update download
> a dictionary with the name "dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt". What is
> this for an dictionary and is it correct that it uses the same extension
> identifier than "dict-en.oxt". Why is the name part of the file name?
>
> If this is the intended new one I would suggest to update the existing
> "dict-en.oxt" asap that we bundle this new one. Or if not use a
> different extension identifier.
>
> We should avoid that we bundle an old dictionary with 4.1 and all new
> users get directly an extension update.
>
> Any further information from people who knows more about the details?
>
> Juergen
>
> PS: follow up on the dev mailing list please
>
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
???
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> I noticed that since last week I got always an extensions update for the
> bundled English dictionary when I work/test with a new profile.
This is expected and it has been discussed extensively on both the l10n
and dev list. The best way to catch up is probably that you look for
messages from Marco Pinto.
> We bundle 2 dictionaries which seems to be English. I am not sure what
> the difference is or which one should be used. I am wondering why it is
> different and why nl and ru doesn't bundle the same as en*, de or it.
One is a dictionary for multiple variants of English (en-US, en-GB...);
the other one is for en-US only.
> [ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ]
> 3c3f841f5d40403bcc4d6bb685a38160
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/1/dict-en.oxt/download
> "dict-en.oxt"
This needs to be updated, it's documented here
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127
and I will take care of it later this week.
> But more confusing do I find the fact that the notified update download
> a dictionary with the name "dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt". What is
> this for an dictionary and is it correct that it uses the same extension
> identifier than "dict-en.oxt". Why is the name part of the file name?
It is correct, since the extension was reassigned to Marco after he
volunteered to make new releases. The fact that the OXT is named
dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt and not simply dict-en.oxt should
indeed be fixed, it doesn't harm but it's easier to be consistent.
> If this is the intended new one I would suggest to update the existing
> "dict-en.oxt" asap that we bundle this new one. Or if not use a
> different extension identifier.
Identifier must be the same, see above. But indeed let's simplify the
name in Marco's next release.
> We should avoid that we bundle an old dictionary with 4.1 and all new
> users get directly an extension update.
Obviously. Again, this has been discussed at length on the l10n and dev
lists.
> Any further information from people who knows more about the details?
I think I summarized most of the discussion. But looking for messages
from Marco in the l10n and dev archives will bring you up-to-date. And
the next actions would be:
1) Marco releases his next update during this week (or at his earliest
convenience) and names it simply dict-en.oxt
2) I address https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124127
bundling his new version.
3) We keep the dictionary frozen until 4.1 is released, publishing new
versions only some weeks after release.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Bundled dictionaries and forced extension update for en-US dictionary
???
Posted by "Marco A.G.Pinto" <ma...@mail.telepac.pt>.
Hello Jürgen,
This is what the update is about:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice
*"*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.*
*These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.*
*It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)*
*This is a locally hosted copy of the **English dictionaries with fixed
dash handling and new ligature and phonetic suggestion support
<http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785>**extension.*
*- See more at:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice#sthash.Ny8W0L9C.dpuf*
*
**English dictionaries for Apache OpenOffice 4.x and later, in a form
suitable for inclusion as individual extension.**
**
**These are the dictionary files bundled with the English version of
Apache OpenOffice.**
**
**It includes:**
**- en_AU (Australian)**
**- en_CA (Canadian)**
**- en_GB (British) (updated on 2014-01-01)**
**- en_US (American)**
**- en_ZA (South African)**
**
**
**This is a locally hosted copy of the <a
href="http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/3785">English
dictionaries with fixed dash handling and new ligature and phonetic
suggestion support</a> extension.**
**"*
In this release, only the en_GB has been updated to V2.08. V2.09 or
V2.10 will appear shortly after AOO 4.1 is released. I try to release a
new version every month or so, with hundreds of new words.
The site of my project, so that you know why I have embraced the project is:
http://marcoagpinto.cidadevirtual.pt/proofingtoolgui.html
I spoke yesterday on IRC with JZA (Alexandro Colorado) about some things
that need to be improved.
I wanted also to update the en_US and add a New Zealand dictionary too,
but I need some time to write a big e-mail contacting the right people
and planning some things.
If you need any more information, just ask :-P
Thanks!
Kind regards,
>Marco A.G.Pinto
-----------------------
On 04/02/2014 12:30, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that since last week I got always an extensions update for the
> bundled English dictionary when I work/test with a new profile.
>
> We bundle 2 dictionaries which seems to be English. I am not sure what
> the difference is or which one should be used. I am wondering why it is
> different and why nl and ru doesn't bundle the same as en*, de or it.
>
> [ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ]
> 3c3f841f5d40403bcc4d6bb685a38160
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/1/dict-en.oxt/download
> "dict-en.oxt"
>
> # English (USA, en_US) dictionary
> [ language==nl || language==ru ]
> e2eab80772ab1aa09716954219351a80
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/1470/1/en_US.oxt/download
> "en_US.oxt"
>
> But more confusing do I find the fact that the notified update download
> a dictionary with the name "dict-en-marcoagpinto-20140107.oxt". What is
> this for an dictionary and is it correct that it uses the same extension
> identifier than "dict-en.oxt". Why is the name part of the file name?
>
> If this is the intended new one I would suggest to update the existing
> "dict-en.oxt" asap that we bundle this new one. Or if not use a
> different extension identifier.
>
> We should avoid that we bundle an old dictionary with 4.1 and all new
> users get directly an extension update.
>
> Any further information from people who knows more about the details?
>
> Juergen
>
> PS: follow up on the dev mailing list please
>
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