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Posted to dev@apr.apache.org by Randy Kobes <ra...@theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca> on 2004/11/26 06:58:09 UTC
apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32
I've been testing out some perl scripts to emulate
apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32 (under Apache/2.0.x),
and was wondering if there was any interest in developing
them within the appropriate httpd/apr sources. At present
they can be installed via a perl script
http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/install_apxs
This assumes an installed Apache binary with the associated
apr/aprutil libs, but it would be possible to separate out
the apxs from the apr/apu config utilties. In their present
form they're intended for building modules outside of the
httpd sources; they've been tested out on the c-modules
within the perl-framework under httpd-test, as well as those
under env/ of httpd-apreq-2, and they seem to work OK.
--
best regards,
randy kobes
Re: apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32
Posted by Randy Kobes <ra...@theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca>.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> At 11:51 AM 11/29/2004, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >Randy Kobes wrote:
> >>I've been testing out some perl scripts to emulate
> >>apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32 (under Apache/2.0.x),
> >>and was wondering if there was any interest in developing
> >>them within the appropriate httpd/apr sources. At present
> >>they can be installed via a perl script
> >> http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/install_apxs
> >>This assumes an installed Apache binary with the associated
> >>apr/aprutil libs, but it would be possible to separate out
> >>the apxs from the apr/apu config utilties. In their present
> >>form they're intended for building modules outside of the
> >>httpd sources; they've been tested out on the c-modules
> >>within the perl-framework under httpd-test, as well as those
> >>under env/ of httpd-apreq-2, and they seem to work OK.
> >
> >+1
> >
> >Randy is a long time committer to the mod_perl project,
> >so I'm sure that if the proposed scripts are integrated
> >with apr/httpd, Randy will be able to maintain those,
> >once the right karma is added. There are very few brave
> >folks who handle the win32 world, so let's make it easier
> >for them to help the disadventaged win32 users.
>
> ++1 - this is a wonderful thing.
>
> One note - I'd like to see this stripped to the point where you
> don't have a ton of dependencies on additional modules. Would
> be nice to distribute without the need to use Makemaker. Is
> this possible? (Putting necessary .pm stubs in the same tree
> as apxs and letting it run out-of-the-box?)
Yes, it's possible to strip it down, and in particular,
do away with MakeMaker. This is done in the version at
http://www.apache.org/~randyk/apxs.zip
When unpacked, running, eg,
perl apxs_install.pl D:\Path\to\installed\Apache2
will configure and install apxs, apr-config, and apu-config.
Here, D:\Path\to\installed\Apache2 is the top-level Apache2
installation directory, and it is assumed that things have
already been installed there (in order to get some version
information and library names). However, if desired, this
information could be extracted from files within the sources
instead, prior to installation.
This smaller version does away with some of the checks and
possible user prompting of the earlier version, by assuming
that the specified D:\Path\to\installed\Apache2 is the right
one. So it might be suitable to be invoked from
httpd-2.0.x/Makefile.win, using the $(INSTDIR) defined
there.
Note that there's a few variables, such as in the installed
$APACHE2/build/config_vars.mk, which I left blank, either
because I didn't know what the Win32 versions were, or
because they seemed Unix-specific. These can be easily
changed, though.
--
best regards,
randy
Re: apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32
Posted by Randy Kobes <ra...@theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca>.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> At 11:51 AM 11/29/2004, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >Randy Kobes wrote:
> >>I've been testing out some perl scripts to emulate
> >>apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32 (under Apache/2.0.x),
> >>and was wondering if there was any interest in developing
> >>them within the appropriate httpd/apr sources. At present
> >>they can be installed via a perl script
> >> http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/install_apxs
> >>This assumes an installed Apache binary with the associated
> >>apr/aprutil libs, but it would be possible to separate out
> >>the apxs from the apr/apu config utilties. In their present
> >>form they're intended for building modules outside of the
> >>httpd sources; they've been tested out on the c-modules
> >>within the perl-framework under httpd-test, as well as those
> >>under env/ of httpd-apreq-2, and they seem to work OK.
> >
> >+1
> >
> >Randy is a long time committer to the mod_perl project,
> >so I'm sure that if the proposed scripts are integrated
> >with apr/httpd, Randy will be able to maintain those,
> >once the right karma is added. There are very few brave
> >folks who handle the win32 world, so let's make it easier
> >for them to help the disadventaged win32 users.
>
> ++1 - this is a wonderful thing.
>
> One note - I'd like to see this stripped to the point where you
> don't have a ton of dependencies on additional modules. Would
> be nice to distribute without the need to use Makemaker. Is
> this possible? (Putting necessary .pm stubs in the same tree
> as apxs and letting it run out-of-the-box?)
Yes, it's possible to strip it down, and in particular,
do away with MakeMaker. This is done in the version at
http://www.apache.org/~randyk/apxs.zip
When unpacked, running, eg,
perl apxs_install.pl D:\Path\to\installed\Apache2
will configure and install apxs, apr-config, and apu-config.
Here, D:\Path\to\installed\Apache2 is the top-level Apache2
installation directory, and it is assumed that things have
already been installed there (in order to get some version
information and library names). However, if desired, this
information could be extracted from files within the sources
instead, prior to installation.
This smaller version does away with some of the checks and
possible user prompting of the earlier version, by assuming
that the specified D:\Path\to\installed\Apache2 is the right
one. So it might be suitable to be invoked from
httpd-2.0.x/Makefile.win, using the $(INSTDIR) defined
there.
Note that there's a few variables, such as in the installed
$APACHE2/build/config_vars.mk, which I left blank, either
because I didn't know what the Win32 versions were, or
because they seemed Unix-specific. These can be easily
changed, though.
--
best regards,
randy
Re: apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
At 11:51 AM 11/29/2004, Stas Bekman wrote:
>Randy Kobes wrote:
>>I've been testing out some perl scripts to emulate
>>apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32 (under Apache/2.0.x),
>>and was wondering if there was any interest in developing
>>them within the appropriate httpd/apr sources. At present
>>they can be installed via a perl script
>> http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/install_apxs
>>This assumes an installed Apache binary with the associated
>>apr/aprutil libs, but it would be possible to separate out
>>the apxs from the apr/apu config utilties. In their present
>>form they're intended for building modules outside of the
>>httpd sources; they've been tested out on the c-modules
>>within the perl-framework under httpd-test, as well as those
>>under env/ of httpd-apreq-2, and they seem to work OK.
>
>+1
>
>Randy is a long time committer to the mod_perl project, so I'm sure that if the proposed scripts are integrated with apr/httpd, Randy will be able to maintain those, once the right karma is added. There are very few brave folks who handle the win32 world, so let's make it easier for them to help the disadventaged win32 users.
++1 - this is a wonderful thing.
One note - I'd like to see this stripped to the point where you
don't have a ton of dependencies on additional modules. Would
be nice to distribute without the need to use Makemaker. Is
this possible? (Putting necessary .pm stubs in the same tree
as apxs and letting it run out-of-the-box?)
Bill
Re: apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
At 11:51 AM 11/29/2004, Stas Bekman wrote:
>Randy Kobes wrote:
>>I've been testing out some perl scripts to emulate
>>apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32 (under Apache/2.0.x),
>>and was wondering if there was any interest in developing
>>them within the appropriate httpd/apr sources. At present
>>they can be installed via a perl script
>> http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/install_apxs
>>This assumes an installed Apache binary with the associated
>>apr/aprutil libs, but it would be possible to separate out
>>the apxs from the apr/apu config utilties. In their present
>>form they're intended for building modules outside of the
>>httpd sources; they've been tested out on the c-modules
>>within the perl-framework under httpd-test, as well as those
>>under env/ of httpd-apreq-2, and they seem to work OK.
>
>+1
>
>Randy is a long time committer to the mod_perl project, so I'm sure that if the proposed scripts are integrated with apr/httpd, Randy will be able to maintain those, once the right karma is added. There are very few brave folks who handle the win32 world, so let's make it easier for them to help the disadventaged win32 users.
++1 - this is a wonderful thing.
One note - I'd like to see this stripped to the point where you
don't have a ton of dependencies on additional modules. Would
be nice to distribute without the need to use Makemaker. Is
this possible? (Putting necessary .pm stubs in the same tree
as apxs and letting it run out-of-the-box?)
Bill
Re: apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Randy Kobes wrote:
> I've been testing out some perl scripts to emulate
> apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32 (under Apache/2.0.x),
> and was wondering if there was any interest in developing
> them within the appropriate httpd/apr sources. At present
> they can be installed via a perl script
> http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/install_apxs
> This assumes an installed Apache binary with the associated
> apr/aprutil libs, but it would be possible to separate out
> the apxs from the apr/apu config utilties. In their present
> form they're intended for building modules outside of the
> httpd sources; they've been tested out on the c-modules
> within the perl-framework under httpd-test, as well as those
> under env/ of httpd-apreq-2, and they seem to work OK.
+1
Randy is a long time committer to the mod_perl project, so I'm sure that
if the proposed scripts are integrated with apr/httpd, Randy will be able
to maintain those, once the right karma is added. There are very few brave
folks who handle the win32 world, so let's make it easier for them to help
the disadventaged win32 users.
--
__________________________________________________________________
Stas Bekman JAm_pH ------> Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org
mailto:stas@stason.org http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com
http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
Re: apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Randy Kobes wrote:
> I've been testing out some perl scripts to emulate
> apxs/apr-config/apu-config on Win32 (under Apache/2.0.x),
> and was wondering if there was any interest in developing
> them within the appropriate httpd/apr sources. At present
> they can be installed via a perl script
> http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/install_apxs
> This assumes an installed Apache binary with the associated
> apr/aprutil libs, but it would be possible to separate out
> the apxs from the apr/apu config utilties. In their present
> form they're intended for building modules outside of the
> httpd sources; they've been tested out on the c-modules
> within the perl-framework under httpd-test, as well as those
> under env/ of httpd-apreq-2, and they seem to work OK.
+1
Randy is a long time committer to the mod_perl project, so I'm sure that
if the proposed scripts are integrated with apr/httpd, Randy will be able
to maintain those, once the right karma is added. There are very few brave
folks who handle the win32 world, so let's make it easier for them to help
the disadventaged win32 users.
--
__________________________________________________________________
Stas Bekman JAm_pH ------> Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org
mailto:stas@stason.org http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com
http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com