Re: [mod_python] Making web site more useful. (Was: OS X / Apache 2 / mod_python bug)

[Nicolas Lehuen <ni...@gmail.com>]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:50:58 -0500, Graham Dumpleton
<gr...@dscpl.com.au> wrote:
> Scott Sanders wrote ..
> > I can help with this if there is a canonical patch for the issue in
> > JIRA.  Just point me at it, and I will integrate it into the
> > repository.
> 
> The solution to the original problem was already in the repository
> of as yet unreleased source code. It wasn't appreciated that it applied
> to the specific problem with that version of Python even though it
> was suggested early on that it be tried anyway.
> 
> What would help at the moment is for the web site to be updated
> to include the following:
> 
> 1. A link to the JIRA bug reporting page for mod_python. The only
> references to this are in past mailing list postings. Site should
> say to try and solve problem first by looking at mailing list
> archive and by discussion on mailing list to avoid reports which
> relate to a person understanding rather than a bug.
> 
> 2. A link to and instructions on how latest working copy of code
> could be checked out of subversion repository so people can
> try that if they want to, to see if it fixes their problems. Note
> sure it is common knowledge at all where the subversion
> repository is.
> 
> 3. A variant of the search box on the main web site which will
> look just in the archive of mailing list mail and which is marked
> as such. Ie., include the search term "inurl:pipermail". This would
> avoid the questions of how to search the mailing list. Comments
> on the site directing people to try searching the mailing list
> archive for solutions to problems would also help.
> 
> 4. For myself and others who help out, we should be more
> diligent in posting more FAQ entries on common problems.
> 
> Graham
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mod_python mailing list
> Mod_python@modpython.org
> http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python
> 

Grisha, we need help here... What is the procedure for updating
anything to www.modpython.org ?

Regards,
Nicolas

Re: [mod_python] Making web site more useful. (Was: OS X / Apache 2 / mod_python bug)

["Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org>]

I think your assessment is right on - quite a few people aspire to make 
great improvements to mod_python, yet very few actually deliver anything 
for those same old reasons (me included) - the job, the family, life, etc. 
BTW, I'm not discouraged by this, this is perfectly normal IMO.

Grisha


On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Graham Dumpleton wrote:

> I am a bit in overload myself at the moment and need to focus on my real
> job and getting an update done to my own web site.
>
> This doesn't mean I will not be able to do some stuff down the track when
> I have worked out my priorities. I would now though like to clear up a
> few things first about mod_python and its future.
>
> What I would like to know is who is actually involved in performing any
> maintenance and ongoing development of mod_python at the moment?
>
> What I believe I know so far as that your main focus is elsewhere these
> days and that Nicolas has write access to the source repository but is
> equally busy. Its seems I don't understand what Nicolas is doing as I
> thought he was taking over a bigger role than he is as far as looking
> after mod_python.
>
> Thus, is there anyone else actively involved? Is there any sort of plan for
> moving forward as far as fixing bugs, improving the web site, or development
> of any enhancements, with people actually assigned to these things?
>
> As much as I would like to see mod_python be improved, my intent is not
> to be critical of anyone or how things are being managed, but since I
> have stepped into what I saw as a hole and have been trying to give as
> much assistance as I could on the mailing list to people, I would like
> to get my facts straight so that I am not giving out wrong information.
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> On 18/03/2005, at 1:39 AM, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
>> 
>> Graham -
>> 
>> How about you send my your public ssh key and I arrange for access to 
>> www.modpython.org so you can make these changes yourself. I've been too 
>> busy this year too keep up and don't want to be the bottleneck...
>> 
>> Grisha
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Nicolas Lehuen wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:50:58 -0500, Graham Dumpleton
>>> <gr...@dscpl.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Scott Sanders wrote ..
>>>>> I can help with this if there is a canonical patch for the issue in
>>>>> JIRA.  Just point me at it, and I will integrate it into the
>>>>> repository.
>>>> 
>>>> The solution to the original problem was already in the repository
>>>> of as yet unreleased source code. It wasn't appreciated that it 
>>>> applied
>>>> to the specific problem with that version of Python even though it
>>>> was suggested early on that it be tried anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> What would help at the moment is for the web site to be updated
>>>> to include the following:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. A link to the JIRA bug reporting page for mod_python. The only
>>>> references to this are in past mailing list postings. Site should
>>>> say to try and solve problem first by looking at mailing list
>>>> archive and by discussion on mailing list to avoid reports which
>>>> relate to a person understanding rather than a bug.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. A link to and instructions on how latest working copy of code
>>>> could be checked out of subversion repository so people can
>>>> try that if they want to, to see if it fixes their problems. Note
>>>> sure it is common knowledge at all where the subversion
>>>> repository is.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. A variant of the search box on the main web site which will
>>>> look just in the archive of mailing list mail and which is marked
>>>> as such. Ie., include the search term "inurl:pipermail". This would
>>>> avoid the questions of how to search the mailing list. Comments
>>>> on the site directing people to try searching the mailing list
>>>> archive for solutions to problems would also help.
>>>> 
>>>> 4. For myself and others who help out, we should be more
>>>> diligent in posting more FAQ entries on common problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Mod_python mailing list
>>>> Mod_python@modpython.org
>>>> http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Grisha, we need help here... What is the procedure for updating
>>> anything to www.modpython.org ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nicolas
>>> 
>

Re: [mod_python] Making web site more useful. (Was: OS X / Apache 2 / mod_python bug)

["Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org>]

Graham -

How about you send my your public ssh key and I arrange for access to 
www.modpython.org so you can make these changes yourself. I've been too 
busy this year too keep up and don't want to be the bottleneck...

Grisha


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Nicolas Lehuen wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:50:58 -0500, Graham Dumpleton
> <gr...@dscpl.com.au> wrote:
>> Scott Sanders wrote ..
>>> I can help with this if there is a canonical patch for the issue in
>>> JIRA.  Just point me at it, and I will integrate it into the
>>> repository.
>>
>> The solution to the original problem was already in the repository
>> of as yet unreleased source code. It wasn't appreciated that it applied
>> to the specific problem with that version of Python even though it
>> was suggested early on that it be tried anyway.
>>
>> What would help at the moment is for the web site to be updated
>> to include the following:
>>
>> 1. A link to the JIRA bug reporting page for mod_python. The only
>> references to this are in past mailing list postings. Site should
>> say to try and solve problem first by looking at mailing list
>> archive and by discussion on mailing list to avoid reports which
>> relate to a person understanding rather than a bug.
>>
>> 2. A link to and instructions on how latest working copy of code
>> could be checked out of subversion repository so people can
>> try that if they want to, to see if it fixes their problems. Note
>> sure it is common knowledge at all where the subversion
>> repository is.
>>
>> 3. A variant of the search box on the main web site which will
>> look just in the archive of mailing list mail and which is marked
>> as such. Ie., include the search term "inurl:pipermail". This would
>> avoid the questions of how to search the mailing list. Comments
>> on the site directing people to try searching the mailing list
>> archive for solutions to problems would also help.
>>
>> 4. For myself and others who help out, we should be more
>> diligent in posting more FAQ entries on common problems.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Mod_python mailing list
>> Mod_python@modpython.org
>> http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python
>>
>
> Grisha, we need help here... What is the procedure for updating
> anything to www.modpython.org ?
>
> Regards,
> Nicolas
>