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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net> on 2006/10/18 21:54:17 UTC
JSTL 1.2 for JEE 5
I'm looking at what it would take to include an implementation of JSTL
1.2 (JSR 52) for compliance with JEE 5 in Geronimo. We currently
include the Jakarta implementation of the 1.1 spec in some of our web
applications (such as the web console) but not directly in the Geronimo
J2EE server.
I think the first order of business is to see if I can pick up an open
source implementation and spec from someplace. I asked on the Jakarta
taglibs user mailing list and was told that there is not an effort
underway to implement the 1.2 version of this spec. They then pointed
me to Glassfish.
So, I'm planning to investigate what it would take to include the
Glassfish implementation into Geronimo. If any body has any
concerns/objections/recommendations/insight/etc... please speak up.
Thanks,
Joe
Re: JSTL 1.2 for JEE 5
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Thanks for the info. It looks like we both found the same thing at
about the same time :-)
Joe
Kevan Miller wrote:
>
> On Oct 19, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
>>
>> However, using Glassfish may not be that simple either. So far I
>> haven't seen the Glassfish published JSTL in any public repo. I also
>> haven't found a way to download just the JSTL impl from Glassfish
>> apart from downloading the entire image.
>
>
> Joe,
> Have a look at https://maven-repository.dev.java.net/nonav/repository/
>
> --kevan
>
>
>
Re: JSTL 1.2 for JEE 5
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 19, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
> However, using Glassfish may not be that simple either. So far I
> haven't seen the Glassfish published JSTL in any public repo. I
> also haven't found a way to download just the JSTL impl from
> Glassfish apart from downloading the entire image.
Joe,
Have a look at https://maven-repository.dev.java.net/nonav/repository/
--kevan
Re: JSTL 1.2 for JEE 5
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Ok, I've found jstl on the java.net repo at this location:
https://maven-repository.dev.java.net/repository/jstl/
Are there any issues with downloading items from java.net?
Unfortunately it's substantially larger that what we had with JSTL 1.1
and it appears that the reason is it includes a whole lot more stuff
(strangely most of it under an org\apache\... path).
THe other strange thing is that this jstl jar doesn't match the content
of the one included with the full Glassfish download (which is a good
thing since the jar in the full image only seems to include the extra
gorp and not the classes that we need from the spec).
Joe
Joe Bohn wrote:
> Yes, we could look at implementing our own or building on the 1.1
> Jakarta impl. I'm a little hesitant to do that given that the Jakarta
> folks themselves have considered this and apparently decided not to
> pursue that path. I figure they know more about this than I do.
>
> However, using Glassfish may not be that simple either. So far I
> haven't seen the Glassfish published JSTL in any public repo. I also
> haven't found a way to download just the JSTL impl from Glassfish apart
> from downloading the entire image.
>
> Still investigating ....
>
> Joe
>
> Prasad Kashyap wrote:
>
>> Here's another option. Depending on how much the spec has changed
>> between 1.1 and 1.2, we could fork jakarta and provide our own
>> implementation. Just a thought.
>>
>> Then again, what are the pros and cons of picking up Glassfish ?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Prasad
>>
>> On 10/19/06, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know of an alternative to Glassfish's JSTL 1.2? Also, I
>>> wonder if Jakarta might consider providing an implementation if we
>>> expressed interest in using it in Geronimo?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 10/18/06, Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'm looking at what it would take to include an implementation of JSTL
>>> > 1.2 (JSR 52) for compliance with JEE 5 in Geronimo. We currently
>>> > include the Jakarta implementation of the 1.1 spec in some of our web
>>> > applications (such as the web console) but not directly in the
>>> Geronimo
>>> > J2EE server.
>>> >
>>> > I think the first order of business is to see if I can pick up an open
>>> > source implementation and spec from someplace. I asked on the Jakarta
>>> > taglibs user mailing list and was told that there is not an effort
>>> > underway to implement the 1.2 version of this spec. They then pointed
>>> > me to Glassfish.
>>> >
>>> > So, I'm planning to investigate what it would take to include the
>>> > Glassfish implementation into Geronimo. If any body has any
>>> > concerns/objections/recommendations/insight/etc... please speak up.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Joe
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: JSTL 1.2 for JEE 5
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Yes, we could look at implementing our own or building on the 1.1
Jakarta impl. I'm a little hesitant to do that given that the Jakarta
folks themselves have considered this and apparently decided not to
pursue that path. I figure they know more about this than I do.
However, using Glassfish may not be that simple either. So far I
haven't seen the Glassfish published JSTL in any public repo. I also
haven't found a way to download just the JSTL impl from Glassfish apart
from downloading the entire image.
Still investigating ....
Joe
Prasad Kashyap wrote:
> Here's another option. Depending on how much the spec has changed
> between 1.1 and 1.2, we could fork jakarta and provide our own
> implementation. Just a thought.
>
> Then again, what are the pros and cons of picking up Glassfish ?
>
> Cheers
> Prasad
>
> On 10/19/06, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of an alternative to Glassfish's JSTL 1.2? Also, I
>> wonder if Jakarta might consider providing an implementation if we
>> expressed interest in using it in Geronimo?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 10/18/06, Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at what it would take to include an implementation of JSTL
>> > 1.2 (JSR 52) for compliance with JEE 5 in Geronimo. We currently
>> > include the Jakarta implementation of the 1.1 spec in some of our web
>> > applications (such as the web console) but not directly in the Geronimo
>> > J2EE server.
>> >
>> > I think the first order of business is to see if I can pick up an open
>> > source implementation and spec from someplace. I asked on the Jakarta
>> > taglibs user mailing list and was told that there is not an effort
>> > underway to implement the 1.2 version of this spec. They then pointed
>> > me to Glassfish.
>> >
>> > So, I'm planning to investigate what it would take to include the
>> > Glassfish implementation into Geronimo. If any body has any
>> > concerns/objections/recommendations/insight/etc... please speak up.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Joe
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: JSTL 1.2 for JEE 5
Posted by Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>.
Here's another option. Depending on how much the spec has changed
between 1.1 and 1.2, we could fork jakarta and provide our own
implementation. Just a thought.
Then again, what are the pros and cons of picking up Glassfish ?
Cheers
Prasad
On 10/19/06, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know of an alternative to Glassfish's JSTL 1.2? Also, I
> wonder if Jakarta might consider providing an implementation if we
> expressed interest in using it in Geronimo?
>
> Paul
>
> On 10/18/06, Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking at what it would take to include an implementation of JSTL
> > 1.2 (JSR 52) for compliance with JEE 5 in Geronimo. We currently
> > include the Jakarta implementation of the 1.1 spec in some of our web
> > applications (such as the web console) but not directly in the Geronimo
> > J2EE server.
> >
> > I think the first order of business is to see if I can pick up an open
> > source implementation and spec from someplace. I asked on the Jakarta
> > taglibs user mailing list and was told that there is not an effort
> > underway to implement the 1.2 version of this spec. They then pointed
> > me to Glassfish.
> >
> > So, I'm planning to investigate what it would take to include the
> > Glassfish implementation into Geronimo. If any body has any
> > concerns/objections/recommendations/insight/etc... please speak up.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe
> >
>
Re: JSTL 1.2 for JEE 5
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Does anyone know of an alternative to Glassfish's JSTL 1.2? Also, I
wonder if Jakarta might consider providing an implementation if we
expressed interest in using it in Geronimo?
Paul
On 10/18/06, Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I'm looking at what it would take to include an implementation of JSTL
> 1.2 (JSR 52) for compliance with JEE 5 in Geronimo. We currently
> include the Jakarta implementation of the 1.1 spec in some of our web
> applications (such as the web console) but not directly in the Geronimo
> J2EE server.
>
> I think the first order of business is to see if I can pick up an open
> source implementation and spec from someplace. I asked on the Jakarta
> taglibs user mailing list and was told that there is not an effort
> underway to implement the 1.2 version of this spec. They then pointed
> me to Glassfish.
>
> So, I'm planning to investigate what it would take to include the
> Glassfish implementation into Geronimo. If any body has any
> concerns/objections/recommendations/insight/etc... please speak up.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>