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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Matthias Bauer <ma...@livinglogic.de> on 2003/12/15 14:57:13 UTC
Re: [Struts Workflow Extension] Any volunteers for furtherdevelopment
and maintenance?
Martin and others who have replied to me off-list:
The Struts Workflow Extension relies on the same ideas of open source
than the Struts framework does: I had to deal with workflow issues in
several web applications I developed with Struts about two and a half
years ago. I noticed that workflow control is needed in almost any web
application and thus started to develop this extension that focuses on
solving these issues in a generic and reusable way. I released it as
open source because of two reasons: The first one is that I (as being a
consumer of the open source framework Struts) wanted to give something
back to the community. That's only fair. The second reason to share a
piece of software is the hope that other people use it, test it and help
improve it. My company is going on using this software, but there is
nobody here who feels like being the maintainer of this package, puting
in time answering questions on this list or privately, doing bugfixes or
implementing features that are not directly necessary for one of the
projects implemented here.
I am not asking someone to raise his hand and say: "Ok. I am a really
good guy, so I will put in a lot of time to maintain a software package
that is of no use to me." I am addressing the people that contacted me
during the last months/years, asking questions about the Struts Workflow
Extension, reported bugs, donated code and gave all kinds of other
precious feedback. These people are using this extension and might be
interested in maintaining it in the future. All I am asking is: Is one
of these guys willing to be the maintainer of the package, no matter if
(like up to now) as an extension or a part of the Struts code base (like
Tiles)?
All the others: Please stop bugging me with: "How much will I get paid
for?", "What are the conditions?", ... Hey this is open source software.
The same as Struts.
--- Matthias
Martin Gainty wrote:
>Matthias:
>The problem with most of us is that rent isnt free and food isnt free (at
>least not in the US)
>Assuming this effort isnt a loaded government project and is more 'academic'
>in nature
>How much would your company say this effort is worth?
>Saludos,
>Martin Gainty
>001-617-852-7822
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Marcus Peixoto" <mp...@pcltda.com.br>
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [Struts Workflow Extension] Any volunteers for
>furtherdevelopment and maintenance?
>
>
>
>
>>Matthias,
>>
>>How much of your spare time have you been spending on it ?
>>I have some spare time but I don't know if I have enough experience in
>>Java to handle it.
>>[]'s
>>
>>Marcus
>>
>>Em Seg, 2003-12-15 às 08:41, Matthias Bauer escreveu:
>>
>>
>>>Hi everybody,
>>>
>>>I am looking for someone who would like to take over further development
>>>and responsibility for the Struts Workflow Extension.
>>>
>>>The reason I am looking for someone volunteering to do that is simple: I
>>>will quit my job at the end of this year and will work in a different
>>>area than web application development from next year on. Unfortunately
>>>even though our company heavily uses this extension, nobody here is
>>>willing to sacrifice a considerable amount of spare time to further
>>>develop and maintain it.
>>>
>>>As I know from many questions that were directed to me personally, there
>>>are quite some people out there using the extension as well. And as I
>>>would certainly like to see it be actively developed in the future, I am
>>>hoping to find somebody who is interested to take over responsibility
>>>for this package. If desired I would assist in transferring the code and
>>>documentation to Sourceforge. So anybody who is interested, please
>>>contact me through the mailing list.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>--- Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Struts Workflow Extension] Any volunteers for furtherdevelopment
and maintenance?
Posted by Matthias Bauer <ma...@livinglogic.de>.
Markus,
you are certainly very welcome to ask questions.
--- Matthias
Markus wrote:
>Hello Martin,
>I've followed the discussion and took a short look over your pages. The
>Stuts Workflow Extension
>seems to be an interesting tool and I will take a deeper look in the next
>days.
>It would be nice if you have time for answering my questions.
>
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Markus
>
>
>
>>Martin and others who have replied to me off-list:
>>
>>The Struts Workflow Extension relies on the same ideas of open source
>>than the Struts framework does: I had to deal with workflow issues in
>>several web applications I developed with Struts about two and a half
>>years ago. I noticed that workflow control is needed in almost any web
>>application and thus started to develop this extension that focuses on
>>solving these issues in a generic and reusable way. I released it as
>>open source because of two reasons: The first one is that I (as being a
>>consumer of the open source framework Struts) wanted to give something
>>back to the community. That's only fair. The second reason to share a
>>piece of software is the hope that other people use it, test it and help
>>improve it. My company is going on using this software, but there is
>>nobody here who feels like being the maintainer of this package, puting
>>in time answering questions on this list or privately, doing bugfixes or
>>implementing features that are not directly necessary for one of the
>>projects implemented here.
>>
>>I am not asking someone to raise his hand and say: "Ok. I am a really
>>good guy, so I will put in a lot of time to maintain a software package
>>that is of no use to me." I am addressing the people that contacted me
>>during the last months/years, asking questions about the Struts Workflow
>>Extension, reported bugs, donated code and gave all kinds of other
>>precious feedback. These people are using this extension and might be
>>interested in maintaining it in the future. All I am asking is: Is one
>>of these guys willing to be the maintainer of the package, no matter if
>>(like up to now) as an extension or a part of the Struts code base (like
>>Tiles)?
>>
>>All the others: Please stop bugging me with: "How much will I get paid
>>for?", "What are the conditions?", ... Hey this is open source software.
>>The same as Struts.
>>
>>--- Matthias
>>
>>
>>Martin Gainty wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Matthias:
>>>The problem with most of us is that rent isnt free and food isnt free (at
>>>least not in the US)
>>>Assuming this effort isnt a loaded government project and is more
>>>
>>>
>>'academic'
>>
>>
>>>in nature
>>>How much would your company say this effort is worth?
>>>Saludos,
>>>Martin Gainty
>>>001-617-852-7822
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Marcus Peixoto" <mp...@pcltda.com.br>
>>>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:09 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Struts Workflow Extension] Any volunteers for
>>>furtherdevelopment and maintenance?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Matthias,
>>>>
>>>>How much of your spare time have you been spending on it ?
>>>>I have some spare time but I don't know if I have enough experience in
>>>>Java to handle it.
>>>>[]'s
>>>>
>>>>Marcus
>>>>
>>>>Em Seg, 2003-12-15 Ã s 08:41, Matthias Bauer escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am looking for someone who would like to take over further
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>development
>>
>>
>>>>>and responsibility for the Struts Workflow Extension.
>>>>>
>>>>>The reason I am looking for someone volunteering to do that is simple:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>>will quit my job at the end of this year and will work in a different
>>>>>area than web application development from next year on. Unfortunately
>>>>>even though our company heavily uses this extension, nobody here is
>>>>>willing to sacrifice a considerable amount of spare time to further
>>>>>develop and maintain it.
>>>>>
>>>>>As I know from many questions that were directed to me personally,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>there
>>
>>
>>>>>are quite some people out there using the extension as well. And as I
>>>>>would certainly like to see it be actively developed in the future, I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>am
>>
>>
>>>>>hoping to find somebody who is interested to take over responsibility
>>>>>for this package. If desired I would assist in transferring the code
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>>>documentation to Sourceforge. So anybody who is interested, please
>>>>>contact me through the mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>--- Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [Struts Workflow Extension] Any volunteers for furtherdevelopment and maintenance?
Posted by Markus <ma...@gmx.com>.
Hello Martin,
I've followed the discussion and took a short look over your pages. The
Stuts Workflow Extension
seems to be an interesting tool and I will take a deeper look in the next
days.
It would be nice if you have time for answering my questions.
Kind regards,
Markus
> Martin and others who have replied to me off-list:
>
> The Struts Workflow Extension relies on the same ideas of open source
> than the Struts framework does: I had to deal with workflow issues in
> several web applications I developed with Struts about two and a half
> years ago. I noticed that workflow control is needed in almost any web
> application and thus started to develop this extension that focuses on
> solving these issues in a generic and reusable way. I released it as
> open source because of two reasons: The first one is that I (as being a
> consumer of the open source framework Struts) wanted to give something
> back to the community. That's only fair. The second reason to share a
> piece of software is the hope that other people use it, test it and help
> improve it. My company is going on using this software, but there is
> nobody here who feels like being the maintainer of this package, puting
> in time answering questions on this list or privately, doing bugfixes or
> implementing features that are not directly necessary for one of the
> projects implemented here.
>
> I am not asking someone to raise his hand and say: "Ok. I am a really
> good guy, so I will put in a lot of time to maintain a software package
> that is of no use to me." I am addressing the people that contacted me
> during the last months/years, asking questions about the Struts Workflow
> Extension, reported bugs, donated code and gave all kinds of other
> precious feedback. These people are using this extension and might be
> interested in maintaining it in the future. All I am asking is: Is one
> of these guys willing to be the maintainer of the package, no matter if
> (like up to now) as an extension or a part of the Struts code base (like
> Tiles)?
>
> All the others: Please stop bugging me with: "How much will I get paid
> for?", "What are the conditions?", ... Hey this is open source software.
> The same as Struts.
>
> --- Matthias
>
>
> Martin Gainty wrote:
>
> >Matthias:
> >The problem with most of us is that rent isnt free and food isnt free (at
> >least not in the US)
> >Assuming this effort isnt a loaded government project and is more
> 'academic'
> >in nature
> >How much would your company say this effort is worth?
> >Saludos,
> >Martin Gainty
> >001-617-852-7822
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Marcus Peixoto" <mp...@pcltda.com.br>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:09 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Struts Workflow Extension] Any volunteers for
> >furtherdevelopment and maintenance?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Matthias,
> >>
> >>How much of your spare time have you been spending on it ?
> >>I have some spare time but I don't know if I have enough experience in
> >>Java to handle it.
> >>[]'s
> >>
> >>Marcus
> >>
> >>Em Seg, 2003-12-15 Ã s 08:41, Matthias Bauer escreveu:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi everybody,
> >>>
> >>>I am looking for someone who would like to take over further
> development
> >>>and responsibility for the Struts Workflow Extension.
> >>>
> >>>The reason I am looking for someone volunteering to do that is simple:
> I
> >>>will quit my job at the end of this year and will work in a different
> >>>area than web application development from next year on. Unfortunately
> >>>even though our company heavily uses this extension, nobody here is
> >>>willing to sacrifice a considerable amount of spare time to further
> >>>develop and maintain it.
> >>>
> >>>As I know from many questions that were directed to me personally,
> there
> >>>are quite some people out there using the extension as well. And as I
> >>>would certainly like to see it be actively developed in the future, I
> am
> >>>hoping to find somebody who is interested to take over responsibility
> >>>for this package. If desired I would assist in transferring the code
> and
> >>>documentation to Sourceforge. So anybody who is interested, please
> >>>contact me through the mailing list.
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>--- Matthias
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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