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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Morgan Christiansson <ap...@mog.se> on 2004/02/05 14:38:26 UTC

DrFTPD, ftpserver fork

Hi, at the request of Rana i'm taking up this issue here at
incubator-general.

In the summer of 2002 i downloaded Rana's FtpServer code from his
homepage, which at the time didn't specify a license. To modify it to
use transfer slaves for all file transfers, making a distributed ftp
server, which is available at http://drftpd.org/ .

I'm about to release DrFTPD 0.11.0 but would like to clear up the
licensing of DrFTPD first.

I would prefer using a GPL license, and from what i understand, Rana has
the copyright to the code and so it the one to ask. He said he had no
issue with the GPL except license conflicts.

Thanks,
Morgan


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Re: DrFTPD, ftpserver fork

Posted by Morgan Christiansson <ap...@mog.se>.
On tor, 2004-02-05 at 15:20, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Morgan Christiansson wrote:
> 
> > Hi, at the request of Rana i'm taking up this issue here at
> > incubator-general.
> > 
> > In the summer of 2002 i downloaded Rana's FtpServer code from his
> > homepage, which at the time didn't specify a license. To modify it to
> > use transfer slaves for all file transfers, making a distributed ftp
> > server, which is available at http://drftpd.org/ .
> > 
> > I'm about to release DrFTPD 0.11.0 but would like to clear up the
> > licensing of DrFTPD first.
> > 
> > I would prefer using a GPL license, and from what i understand, Rana has
> > the copyright to the code and so it the one to ask. He said he had no
> > issue with the GPL except license conflicts.
> 
> IANAL, and in any case if the below is incorrect others please say so.
> 
> If, as it seems, the code in question has all been coded by Rana and he 
> agrees to license it as GPL, there is no issue.
> 
> If there are other coders of that code, and they too agree to license it 
> as GPL, it still should not be an issue.
> 
> In any case, the code that is at Apache is licensed with the Apache 
> license, which we believe is compatible with the GPL.
> 
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

Yes, i was also thinking that this would be a possibility, but how would
i go about sublicensing my changes as GPL in that case?

>>From what i understand i first need to add apache license header to all
source files (the original code i downloaded didn't specify license and
there was no license header anywhere), and then add GPL license header
in addition to it?

And the actual LICENSE files of course

It sounds like a hassle to use sublicensing.

Thanks,
Morgan


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Re: DrFTPD, ftpserver fork [parent is a dup]

Posted by Morgan Christiansson <ap...@mog.se>.
[Sorry for duplicate post, read the other msg]

On tor, 2004-02-05 at 15:59, Morgan Christiansson wrote:
> On tor, 2004-02-05 at 15:20, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > In any case, the code that is at Apache is licensed with the Apache 
> > license, which we believe is compatible with the GPL.
> > 
> > http://www.apache.org/licenses/
> > http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html
> 
> Yes, but how would i go about sublicensing my changes as GPL in that
> case?
> 
> Do i first need to add apache license to all source files (the code i
> got didn't specify license and there was no license header anywhere),
> and then add GPL in addition to it?
> 
> It sounds like much of a hassle to do it if i need to use both licenses.
> 
> 
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Re: DrFTPD, ftpserver fork

Posted by Morgan Christiansson <ap...@mog.se>.
On tor, 2004-02-05 at 15:20, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> In any case, the code that is at Apache is licensed with the Apache 
> license, which we believe is compatible with the GPL.
> 
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

Yes, but how would i go about sublicensing my changes as GPL in that
case?

Do i first need to add apache license to all source files (the code i
got didn't specify license and there was no license header anywhere),
and then add GPL in addition to it?

It sounds like much of a hassle to do it if i need to use both licenses.


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Re: DrFTPD, ftpserver fork

Posted by Morgan Christiansson <ap...@mog.se>.
Rana, what is your opinion? Any comments on the licensing?


On fre, 2004-02-06 at 02:01, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Thursday 05 February 2004 22:20, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > IANAL
> 
> Me neither.
> 
> > If, as it seems, the code in question has all been coded by Rana and he
> > agrees to license it as GPL, there is no issue.
> > If there are other coders of that code, and they too agree to license it
> > as GPL, it still should not be an issue.
> 
> If the current code is BSD-style, you don't even need the Copyright owner's 
> approval to change the licensing.
> If it is Apache code, ASF is the copyright owner in any event.
> 
> > In any case, the code that is at Apache is licensed with the Apache
> > license, which we believe is compatible with the GPL.
> > http://www.apache.org/licenses/
> > http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html
> 
> But you must retain the Copyright (and other) notices and License files. Read 
> section 4 in the License-2.0.html.
> 
> Niclas
> 
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Re: DrFTPD, ftpserver fork

Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Thursday 05 February 2004 22:20, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> IANAL

Me neither.

> If, as it seems, the code in question has all been coded by Rana and he
> agrees to license it as GPL, there is no issue.
> If there are other coders of that code, and they too agree to license it
> as GPL, it still should not be an issue.

If the current code is BSD-style, you don't even need the Copyright owner's 
approval to change the licensing.
If it is Apache code, ASF is the copyright owner in any event.

> In any case, the code that is at Apache is licensed with the Apache
> license, which we believe is compatible with the GPL.
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

But you must retain the Copyright (and other) notices and License files. Read 
section 4 in the License-2.0.html.

Niclas

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Re: DrFTPD, ftpserver fork

Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Morgan Christiansson wrote:

> Hi, at the request of Rana i'm taking up this issue here at
> incubator-general.
> 
> In the summer of 2002 i downloaded Rana's FtpServer code from his
> homepage, which at the time didn't specify a license. To modify it to
> use transfer slaves for all file transfers, making a distributed ftp
> server, which is available at http://drftpd.org/ .
> 
> I'm about to release DrFTPD 0.11.0 but would like to clear up the
> licensing of DrFTPD first.
> 
> I would prefer using a GPL license, and from what i understand, Rana has
> the copyright to the code and so it the one to ask. He said he had no
> issue with the GPL except license conflicts.

IANAL, and in any case if the below is incorrect others please say so.

If, as it seems, the code in question has all been coded by Rana and he 
agrees to license it as GPL, there is no issue.

If there are other coders of that code, and they too agree to license it 
as GPL, it still should not be an issue.

In any case, the code that is at Apache is licensed with the Apache 
license, which we believe is compatible with the GPL.

http://www.apache.org/licenses/
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

-- 
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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