HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with Buildr?

I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the integration
code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel my
time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
significant impact on the project's success.

The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the amount
of interest in the framework itself.

So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.

alex

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

I'm glad to report that JtestR 0.6 is back to working state on buildr trunk.

Chiaming, if you have the heart to get JtestR working with rspec 2.0, it
would be much appreciated.   We could shed a lot of not-so-clean code in a
whiff.

cheers,
alex


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok, all my changes with respect to rspec 2.1.0 are committed.   And the
> JtestR specs are all red right now.
>
> I'll work on a strawman JtestR 0.6.0 integration later this week, taking
> approach #2 below.  If that doesn't work, we'll need to push the upgrade to
> RSpec2.
>
> alex
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Good to hear somebody's using our JtestR integration :)
>>
>> I think there's two ways to make it work,
>>
>> 1) Upgrade JtestR to RSpec2, this way we have aligned dependencies and our
>> integration code can work with both RSpec directly and JtestR.
>>
>> 2) Keep JtestR where it is and use different integration code (in
>> particular different RSpecResultHandler than the one used for RSpec 2 since
>> there were API changes).
>>
>> I'll commit some local changes I have and provide some more information
>> later.
>>
>> alex
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We
>>> have
>>> RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is
>>> the only
>>> test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that
>>> only
>>> one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.
>>>
>>> I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on
>>> the
>>> JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did
>>> not
>>> have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?
>>>
>>> Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR
>>> dependency
>>> issues, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chiaming Hsu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
>>> To: dev@buildr.apache.org
>>> Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
>>> Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:
>>>
>>> > Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with
>>> Buildr?
>>> >
>>> > I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the
>>> integration
>>> > code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel
>>> my
>>> > time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
>>> > significant impact on the project's success.
>>> >
>>> > The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the
>>> amount
>>> > of interest in the framework itself.
>>> >
>>> > So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.
>>>
>>> I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr
>>> to
>>> buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support,
>>> but it
>>> didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec
>>> support and
>>> things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to
>>> suggest to
>>> folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.
>>>
>>> Rhett
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

I'm glad to report that JtestR 0.6 is back to working state on buildr trunk.

Chiaming, if you have the heart to get JtestR working with rspec 2.0, it
would be much appreciated.   We could shed a lot of not-so-clean code in a
whiff.

cheers,
alex


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok, all my changes with respect to rspec 2.1.0 are committed.   And the
> JtestR specs are all red right now.
>
> I'll work on a strawman JtestR 0.6.0 integration later this week, taking
> approach #2 below.  If that doesn't work, we'll need to push the upgrade to
> RSpec2.
>
> alex
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Good to hear somebody's using our JtestR integration :)
>>
>> I think there's two ways to make it work,
>>
>> 1) Upgrade JtestR to RSpec2, this way we have aligned dependencies and our
>> integration code can work with both RSpec directly and JtestR.
>>
>> 2) Keep JtestR where it is and use different integration code (in
>> particular different RSpecResultHandler than the one used for RSpec 2 since
>> there were API changes).
>>
>> I'll commit some local changes I have and provide some more information
>> later.
>>
>> alex
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We
>>> have
>>> RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is
>>> the only
>>> test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that
>>> only
>>> one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.
>>>
>>> I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on
>>> the
>>> JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did
>>> not
>>> have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?
>>>
>>> Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR
>>> dependency
>>> issues, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chiaming Hsu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
>>> To: dev@buildr.apache.org
>>> Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
>>> Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:
>>>
>>> > Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with
>>> Buildr?
>>> >
>>> > I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the
>>> integration
>>> > code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel
>>> my
>>> > time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
>>> > significant impact on the project's success.
>>> >
>>> > The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the
>>> amount
>>> > of interest in the framework itself.
>>> >
>>> > So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.
>>>
>>> I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr
>>> to
>>> buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support,
>>> but it
>>> didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec
>>> support and
>>> things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to
>>> suggest to
>>> folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.
>>>
>>> Rhett
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

Ok, all my changes with respect to rspec 2.1.0 are committed.   And the
JtestR specs are all red right now.

I'll work on a strawman JtestR 0.6.0 integration later this week, taking
approach #2 below.  If that doesn't work, we'll need to push the upgrade to
RSpec2.

alex

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Good to hear somebody's using our JtestR integration :)
>
> I think there's two ways to make it work,
>
> 1) Upgrade JtestR to RSpec2, this way we have aligned dependencies and our
> integration code can work with both RSpec directly and JtestR.
>
> 2) Keep JtestR where it is and use different integration code (in
> particular different RSpecResultHandler than the one used for RSpec 2 since
> there were API changes).
>
> I'll commit some local changes I have and provide some more information
> later.
>
> alex
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We
>> have
>> RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is the
>> only
>> test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that
>> only
>> one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.
>>
>> I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on the
>> JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did
>> not
>> have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?
>>
>> Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR
>> dependency
>> issues, please let me know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chiaming Hsu
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
>> To: dev@buildr.apache.org
>> Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
>> Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:
>>
>> > Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with
>> Buildr?
>> >
>> > I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the
>> integration
>> > code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel
>> my
>> > time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
>> > significant impact on the project's success.
>> >
>> > The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the
>> amount
>> > of interest in the framework itself.
>> >
>> > So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.
>>
>> I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to
>> buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support,
>> but it
>> didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support
>> and
>> things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to
>> suggest to
>> folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.
>>
>> Rhett
>>
>
>

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

Ok, all my changes with respect to rspec 2.1.0 are committed.   And the
JtestR specs are all red right now.

I'll work on a strawman JtestR 0.6.0 integration later this week, taking
approach #2 below.  If that doesn't work, we'll need to push the upgrade to
RSpec2.

alex

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Good to hear somebody's using our JtestR integration :)
>
> I think there's two ways to make it work,
>
> 1) Upgrade JtestR to RSpec2, this way we have aligned dependencies and our
> integration code can work with both RSpec directly and JtestR.
>
> 2) Keep JtestR where it is and use different integration code (in
> particular different RSpecResultHandler than the one used for RSpec 2 since
> there were API changes).
>
> I'll commit some local changes I have and provide some more information
> later.
>
> alex
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We
>> have
>> RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is the
>> only
>> test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that
>> only
>> one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.
>>
>> I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on the
>> JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did
>> not
>> have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?
>>
>> Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR
>> dependency
>> issues, please let me know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chiaming Hsu
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
>> To: dev@buildr.apache.org
>> Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
>> Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:
>>
>> > Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with
>> Buildr?
>> >
>> > I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the
>> integration
>> > code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel
>> my
>> > time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
>> > significant impact on the project's success.
>> >
>> > The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the
>> amount
>> > of interest in the framework itself.
>> >
>> > So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.
>>
>> I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to
>> buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support,
>> but it
>> didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support
>> and
>> things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to
>> suggest to
>> folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.
>>
>> Rhett
>>
>
>

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

Good to hear somebody's using our JtestR integration :)

I think there's two ways to make it work,

1) Upgrade JtestR to RSpec2, this way we have aligned dependencies and our
integration code can work with both RSpec directly and JtestR.

2) Keep JtestR where it is and use different integration code (in particular
different RSpecResultHandler than the one used for RSpec 2 since there were
API changes).

I'll commit some local changes I have and provide some more information
later.

alex


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We
> have
> RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is the
> only
> test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that
> only
> one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.
>
> I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on the
> JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did
> not
> have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?
>
> Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR
> dependency
> issues, please let me know.
>
> Cheers,
> Chiaming Hsu
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
> To: dev@buildr.apache.org
> Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
> Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
> Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support
>
> Hi,
>
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:
>
> > Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with Buildr?
> >
> > I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the integration
> > code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel
> my
> > time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
> > significant impact on the project's success.
> >
> > The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the
> amount
> > of interest in the framework itself.
> >
> > So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.
>
> I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to
> buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support,
> but it
> didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support
> and
> things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to suggest
> to
> folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.
>
> Rhett
>

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

Good to hear somebody's using our JtestR integration :)

I think there's two ways to make it work,

1) Upgrade JtestR to RSpec2, this way we have aligned dependencies and our
integration code can work with both RSpec directly and JtestR.

2) Keep JtestR where it is and use different integration code (in particular
different RSpecResultHandler than the one used for RSpec 2 since there were
API changes).

I'll commit some local changes I have and provide some more information
later.

alex


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We
> have
> RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is the
> only
> test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that
> only
> one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.
>
> I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on the
> JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did
> not
> have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?
>
> Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR
> dependency
> issues, please let me know.
>
> Cheers,
> Chiaming Hsu
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
> To: dev@buildr.apache.org
> Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
> Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
> Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support
>
> Hi,
>
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:
>
> > Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with Buildr?
> >
> > I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the integration
> > code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel
> my
> > time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
> > significant impact on the project's success.
> >
> > The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the
> amount
> > of interest in the framework itself.
> >
> > So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.
>
> I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to
> buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support,
> but it
> didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support
> and
> things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to suggest
> to
> folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.
>
> Rhett
>

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com>]

I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We have 
RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is the only 
test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that only 
one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.

I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on the 
JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did not 
have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?

Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR dependency 
issues, please let me know.

Cheers,
Chiaming Hsu



----- Original Message ----
From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
To: dev@buildr.apache.org
Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

Hi,

On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:

> Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with Buildr?
> 
> I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the integration
> code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel my
> time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
> significant impact on the project's success.
> 
> The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the amount
> of interest in the framework itself.
> 
> So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.

I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to 
buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support, but it 
didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support and 
things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to suggest to 
folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.

Rhett

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Chiaming Hsu <ca...@yahoo.com>]

I do use JTestR with Buildr for my current employer's build system.  We have 
RSpec / JRuby tests mixed with JUnit4 tests in projects, and JTestR is the only 
test framework I am aware of that can run all tests together, given that only 
one test framework can be activated per project AFAIK.

I am willing to spend some of my off-work hours to help.  I am also on the 
JTestR mailing list so I am aware that Ola responded to Alex that he did not 
have time to move JTestR to RSpec 2.  Maybe I should start on that end?

Alex - if there is anything specific I need to know about this JTestR dependency 
issues, please let me know.

Cheers,
Chiaming Hsu



----- Original Message ----
From: Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>
To: dev@buildr.apache.org
Cc: users@buildr.apache.org
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:47:13 PM
Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

Hi,

On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:

> Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with Buildr?
> 
> I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the integration
> code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel my
> time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
> significant impact on the project's success.
> 
> The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the amount
> of interest in the framework itself.
> 
> So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.

I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to 
buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support, but it 
didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support and 
things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to suggest to 
folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.

Rhett

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>]

Hi,

On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:

> Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with Buildr?
> 
> I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the integration
> code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel my
> time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
> significant impact on the project's success.
> 
> The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the amount
> of interest in the framework itself.
> 
> So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.

I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support, but it didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support and things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to suggest to folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.

Rhett

Re: HEADS-UP: JtestR support

[Rhett Sutphin <rh...@detailedbalance.net>]

Hi,

On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Alex Boisvert wrote:

> Anybody has used, currently using, or planning to use JtestR with Buildr?
> 
> I'm asking because it's an expensive feature to maintain (the integration
> code is a bit awkward and the dependencies often misaligned) and I feel my
> time would be better spent on other things that would have a more
> significant impact on the project's success.
> 
> The JtestR mailing lists are pretty quiet so it's hard to gauge the amount
> of interest in the framework itself.
> 
> So if you have any interest in JtestR support, please raise you hand.

I note in favor of removing it: I ported an ant script that used jtestr to buildr a long time ago.  At first I tried using buildr's jtestr support, but it didn't work how I expected.  I switched to buildr's built-in rspec support and things were much smoother.  So that's a possible transition path to suggest to folks (if any) who are using jtestr+buildr.

Rhett