Re: cTAKES build change, javac [EXTERNAL] [SUSPICIOUS]

["Finan, Sean" <Se...@childrens.harvard.edu.INVALID>]

Before anybody asks:

We as a community do want to update ctakes to be a 21st century application.

That means the latest cutting edge versions of java, uima, cleartk, log4j, etc.

If you can devote any time towards making this goal a reality, please let us know!
If you would like to coordinate a hackathon with modernization as a goal, please take charge of one and gain the credit!  At the very least I will show.  :^)


Thanks all,

Sean



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Subject: cTAKES build change, javac [EXTERNAL] [SUSPICIOUS]

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Hi all,

I am trying to make this understandable for all readers, so the statements that follow are simplified or abbreviated without tl/dr context.

There have been recent improvements in the Apache build environments that require java 11.
Those improvements make the java 8 build environments that ctakes has been using less than favorable, if not completely untenable.

Things had to be fiddled about until ctakes could build in a java 11 environment.

Though ctakes can now be "built with" java 11, ctakes is "built as a" java 8 application.

You still need java 8 to run ctakes.  The simple reason for this is that though the ctakes jars themselves can build on java 11, many dependencies still require java 8, and we need to stick to that lowest common denominator.  For the time being.

I have local java 11 builds working and regression tests working (java 8 vs. 11), but given the infinite possible ctakes pipelines I cannot cover everything.

The Apache Jenkins 'maven central'ish builds are also working.

Please post on dev@ any NEW problems that you have building ctakes or any discrepancies that you see running ctakes pipeline v5-SNAPSHOT 5/16/2023 vs. 5/18/2023.

Thanks all,

Sean


Sean Finan
Research Computing Principal Engineer
Computational Health Informatics Program, Natural Language Processing Lab
Boston Children's Hospital
sean.finan@tch.harvard.edu

Re: cTAKES build change, javac [EXTERNAL] [SUSPICIOUS]

[gandhi rajan <ga...@gmail.com>]

Hi Sean,

I would love to see cTAKES upgrading to latest tech stack starting from
JAVA 11. I can spend some time on this with some guidance.

On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 08:32, Finan, Sean
<Se...@childrens.harvard.edu.invalid> wrote:

> Before anybody asks:
>
> We as a community do want to update ctakes to be a 21st century
> application.
>
> That means the latest cutting edge versions of java, uima, cleartk, log4j,
> etc.
>
> If you can devote any time towards making this goal a reality, please let
> us know!
> If you would like to coordinate a hackathon with modernization as a goal,
> please take charge of one and gain the credit!  At the very least I will
> show.  :^)
>
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Finan, Sean <Se...@childrens.harvard.edu.INVALID>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 10:47 PM
> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org <de...@ctakes.apache.org>
> Subject: cTAKES build change, javac [EXTERNAL] [SUSPICIOUS]
>
> * External Email - Caution *
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to make this understandable for all readers, so the statements
> that follow are simplified or abbreviated without tl/dr context.
>
> There have been recent improvements in the Apache build environments that
> require java 11.
> Those improvements make the java 8 build environments that ctakes has been
> using less than favorable, if not completely untenable.
>
> Things had to be fiddled about until ctakes could build in a java 11
> environment.
>
> Though ctakes can now be "built with" java 11, ctakes is "built as a" java
> 8 application.
>
> You still need java 8 to run ctakes.  The simple reason for this is that
> though the ctakes jars themselves can build on java 11, many dependencies
> still require java 8, and we need to stick to that lowest common
> denominator.  For the time being.
>
> I have local java 11 builds working and regression tests working (java 8
> vs. 11), but given the infinite possible ctakes pipelines I cannot cover
> everything.
>
> The Apache Jenkins 'maven central'ish builds are also working.
>
> Please post on dev@ any NEW problems that you have building ctakes or any
> discrepancies that you see running ctakes pipeline v5-SNAPSHOT 5/16/2023
> vs. 5/18/2023.
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Sean
>
>
> Sean Finan
> Research Computing Principal Engineer
> Computational Health Informatics Program, Natural Language Processing Lab
> Boston Children's Hospital
> sean.finan@tch.harvard.edu
>


-- 
Regards,
Gandhi

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