Re: Brooklyn website - meeting?

[Alex Heneveld <al...@cloudsoftcorp.com>]

We suggested an online meeting at 4pm UK today to discuss website.  Does 
that still work?  Meet in the IRC room?  Or if people prefer I can set 
up a voice/screen forum.

Best
Alex


On 20/04/2017 20:57, Thomas Bouron wrote:
> Thanks Andrea! I don't mind removing the feather but I thought we were
> obliged to add it to the website as Brooklyn is an apache project, isn't it
> right?
>
> Also, if we put only the Brooklyn logo on the navigation bar, I'm worried
> that the first section of the homepage won't work anymore. We will need to
> put something else there. If you have any ideas, I gladly take suggestions
> :)
>
> Best.
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 20:26 Andrea Turli <an...@cloudsoftcorp.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think it's a great contribution, much better on a small screen like
>> smartphone. Still `Apache Brooklyn` doesn't fit nicely though. Also maybe
>> instead of the feather, we could keep a brooklyn logo on the bar that
>> remains when you scroll down, wdyt?
>>
>> Il 20/apr/2017 18:12, "Thomas Bouron" <th...@cloudsoftcorp.com> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> Hi Brooklyners
>>>
>>> I just pushed a PR[1] which implement the changes I was proposing earlier
>>> in this thread. I also pushed a demo of the new website and landing page
>> on
>>> my fork[2]
>>>
>>> Best.
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/brooklyn-docs/pull/173
>>> [2] https://tbouron.github.io/brooklyn-docs/
>>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 at 09:38 John McCabe <jo...@johnmccabe.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 on Thomas's mock up, looks great.
>>>>
>>>> Being able to see something in action before trying it can be useful,
>>>> perhaps something asciinema-like (https://asciinema.org/a/46498).
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 at 08:21 Thomas Bouron <
>>>> thomas.bouron@cloudsoftcorp.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 at 00:32 Alex Heneveld <
>>>>> alex.heneveld@cloudsoftcorp.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow - really like this!  Very clean and elegant.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should /show/ a little bit more what we mean by
>>>>>> modeling/deploying/managing -- eg for modelling (code snippet),
>> and a
>>>>>> graphic w cloud icons for deploy, and maybe a UI screenshot for
>>> manage
>>>> ?
>>>>> I'm not sure I agree with that. I deliberately went for less because
>> I
>>>>> believe less is more, especially on the homepage. Adding a code
>>> snippet,
>>>>> screenshots abd logos will do the reverse IMO. You started this
>> thread
>>> by
>>>>> saying that Brooklyn is always considered as complicated, doing this
>>> will
>>>>> reinforce this feeling IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, we could add a page to have a UI tour, with a link
>> to
>>> it
>>>>> in the "Get Started" menu item?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And not sure about curl-to-bash for install -- some people are
>>>>>> uncomfortable with that (in any case we should curl from an apache
>>> site
>>>>>> for a release, not github).
>>>>>
>>>>> I used github as an example, this is not a real URL.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But some one-line quick start would be
>>>>>> nice.  A docker image?  (And can say jump to Get Started for other
>>>>>> flavours of installs.)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why not for the docker image. I went for the curl command because
>>> that's
>>>>> the only one that does not require the user to install anything else.
>>> If
>>>>> you think about it, a quick start guide that starts by "Install
>> docker"
>>>> or
>>>>> "Install vagrant AND VirtualBox" is far from a great way to start
>> for a
>>>>> first-time Brooklyn user. Now I might be wrong about this and if it
>> is
>>>> the
>>>>> case, then I'm happy to change it (again, that's just a prototype)
>>>>> Regarding the other flavours of install, it's specified in a link,
>>> below
>>>>> the shell command ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly instead of the brooklyn logo font, can you just use the big
>> logo
>>>>>> PNG that is currently in use on the site?
>>>>>
>>>>> I could do that but:
>>>>>
>>>>>     1. the quality is not as nice as pure text
>>>>>     2. from an semantic/SEO point of view, it's better to use the text
>>> as
>>>>>     crawler will be able to read it
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I don't know if you noticed but I rearranged the menu items. I
>>> was
>>>>> planning to do this + update all the web dependencies i.e. bootstrap,
>>>>> jquery, etc
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Bouron \u2022 Senior Software Engineer @ Cloudsoft Corporation \u2022
>>>>> https://cloudsoft.io/
>>>>> Github: https://github.com/tbouron
>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/eltibouron
>>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thomas Bouron \u2022 Senior Software Engineer @ Cloudsoft Corporation \u2022
>>> https://cloudsoft.io/
>>> Github: https://github.com/tbouron
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/eltibouron
>>>

Re: Brooklyn website - meeting?

[Thomas Bouron <th...@cloudsoftcorp.com>]

Did we suggested that? I completely missed it.

Anyway, I'm in and don't mind where it takes place.

Best.

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, 08:37 Alex Heneveld, <al...@cloudsoftcorp.com>
wrote:

>
> We suggested an online meeting at 4pm UK today to discuss website.  Does
> that still work?  Meet in the IRC room?  Or if people prefer I can set
> up a voice/screen forum.
>
> Best
> Alex
>
>
> On 20/04/2017 20:57, Thomas Bouron wrote:
> > Thanks Andrea! I don't mind removing the feather but I thought we were
> > obliged to add it to the website as Brooklyn is an apache project, isn't
> it
> > right?
> >
> > Also, if we put only the Brooklyn logo on the navigation bar, I'm worried
> > that the first section of the homepage won't work anymore. We will need
> to
> > put something else there. If you have any ideas, I gladly take
> suggestions
> > :)
> >
> > Best.
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 20:26 Andrea Turli <
> andrea.turli@cloudsoftcorp.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think it's a great contribution, much better on a small screen like
> >> smartphone. Still `Apache Brooklyn` doesn't fit nicely though. Also
> maybe
> >> instead of the feather, we could keep a brooklyn logo on the bar that
> >> remains when you scroll down, wdyt?
> >>
> >> Il 20/apr/2017 18:12, "Thomas Bouron" <th...@cloudsoftcorp.com>
> ha
> >> scritto:
> >>
> >>> Hi Brooklyners
> >>>
> >>> I just pushed a PR[1] which implement the changes I was proposing
> earlier
> >>> in this thread. I also pushed a demo of the new website and landing
> page
> >> on
> >>> my fork[2]
> >>>
> >>> Best.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/brooklyn-docs/pull/173
> >>> [2] https://tbouron.github.io/brooklyn-docs/
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 at 09:38 John McCabe <jo...@johnmccabe.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> +1 on Thomas's mock up, looks great.
> >>>>
> >>>> Being able to see something in action before trying it can be useful,
> >>>> perhaps something asciinema-like (https://asciinema.org/a/46498).
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 at 08:21 Thomas Bouron <
> >>>> thomas.bouron@cloudsoftcorp.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 at 00:32 Alex Heneveld <
> >>>>> alex.heneveld@cloudsoftcorp.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Wow - really like this!  Very clean and elegant.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I think we should /show/ a little bit more what we mean by
> >>>>>> modeling/deploying/managing -- eg for modelling (code snippet),
> >> and a
> >>>>>> graphic w cloud icons for deploy, and maybe a UI screenshot for
> >>> manage
> >>>> ?
> >>>>> I'm not sure I agree with that. I deliberately went for less because
> >> I
> >>>>> believe less is more, especially on the homepage. Adding a code
> >>> snippet,
> >>>>> screenshots abd logos will do the reverse IMO. You started this
> >> thread
> >>> by
> >>>>> saying that Brooklyn is always considered as complicated, doing this
> >>> will
> >>>>> reinforce this feeling IMO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That being said, we could add a page to have a UI tour, with a link
> >> to
> >>> it
> >>>>> in the "Get Started" menu item?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And not sure about curl-to-bash for install -- some people are
> >>>>>> uncomfortable with that (in any case we should curl from an apache
> >>> site
> >>>>>> for a release, not github).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I used github as an example, this is not a real URL.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> But some one-line quick start would be
> >>>>>> nice.  A docker image?  (And can say jump to Get Started for other
> >>>>>> flavours of installs.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Why not for the docker image. I went for the curl command because
> >>> that's
> >>>>> the only one that does not require the user to install anything else.
> >>> If
> >>>>> you think about it, a quick start guide that starts by "Install
> >> docker"
> >>>> or
> >>>>> "Install vagrant AND VirtualBox" is far from a great way to start
> >> for a
> >>>>> first-time Brooklyn user. Now I might be wrong about this and if it
> >> is
> >>>> the
> >>>>> case, then I'm happy to change it (again, that's just a prototype)
> >>>>> Regarding the other flavours of install, it's specified in a link,
> >>> below
> >>>>> the shell command ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lastly instead of the brooklyn logo font, can you just use the big
> >> logo
> >>>>>> PNG that is currently in use on the site?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could do that but:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     1. the quality is not as nice as pure text
> >>>>>     2. from an semantic/SEO point of view, it's better to use the
> text
> >>> as
> >>>>>     crawler will be able to read it
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, I don't know if you noticed but I rearranged the menu items. I
> >>> was
> >>>>> planning to do this + update all the web dependencies i.e. bootstrap,
> >>>>> jquery, etc
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thomas Bouron • Senior Software Engineer @ Cloudsoft Corporation •
> >>>>> https://cloudsoft.io/
> >>>>> Github: https://github.com/tbouron
> >>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/eltibouron
> >>>>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Thomas Bouron • Senior Software Engineer @ Cloudsoft Corporation •
> >>> https://cloudsoft.io/
> >>> Github: https://github.com/tbouron
> >>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/eltibouron
> >>>
>
> --

Thomas Bouron • Senior Software Engineer @ Cloudsoft Corporation •
https://cloudsoft.io/
Github: https://github.com/tbouron
Twitter: https://twitter.com/eltibouron