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Posted to dev@beam.apache.org by Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org> on 2019/11/04 23:32:17 UTC

[Discuss] Beam mascot

Hi everybody,

I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
if we are all in agreement:)

We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
characteristics and principles. What do you all think?

For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
2. The name is close to Beam
3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9

WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
and get the discussions going.

Thanks,
Aizhamal

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
Thanks for following up with this Kenn.

-Max

On 16.11.19 00:05, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> I like the "Angler fish" as well... it certainly faster then a 
> cuttlefish....
> 
>   _/
> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM Kirill Kozlov <kirillkozlov@google.com 
> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting
>     [1, 2, 3, 4].
>     [1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
>     [2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
>     [3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
>     [4]
>     https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector&clickthrough_id=1413785108&redirect_back=true
> 
>     On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>     <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>         That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really
>         good. I vote for that.
> 
>         On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles
>         <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>             PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not
>             their legs. Please find attached illustrations to that
>             effect. And also evidence that they are occasionally fancy.
>             Definitely *not* from a respectable designer or anyone who
>             could execution a professional logo.
> 
>             I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest
>             starting with an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant
>             ideas?) and then an ASF-style vote to record the validated
>             result. From there, we can go through more standard design
>             process.
> 
>             Kenn
> 
>             [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
> 
>             On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels
>             <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>                 It's great we're having this discussion and we came up
>                 with a lot of
>                 great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we
>                 proceed from here.
>                 Certainly, we can't let designers work with an
>                 open-ended discussion on
>                 the type of mascot.
> 
>                 Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long
>                 as it is made by
>                 a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking
>                 to was very
>                 generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't
>                 think that this is
>                 to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea
>                 of hiring
>                 multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those
>                 designers to all
>                 come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
> 
>                 The sketches I've sent might not look like much because
>                 there is still a
>                 decent process involved in coming up with the final logo
>                 which looks
>                 good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations.
>                 So far I've
>                 tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here,
>                 but for the sake
>                 of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop
>                 doing that. It
>                 simply won't work.
> 
>                 How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally
>                 executed logo
>                 will do, this is really more about the community
>                 agreeing for the
>                 greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to
>                 decide on how to
>                 proceed here.
> 
>                 Cheers,
>                 Max
> 
>                 On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
>                  > I also vote for firefly.
>                  >
>                  > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev
>                 <valentyn@google.com <ma...@google.com>
>                  > <mailto:valentyn@google.com
>                 <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>                  >
>                  >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite
>                 so far.
>                  >
>                  >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>                  >     <robertwb@google.com <ma...@google.com>
>                 <mailto:robertwb@google.com
>                 <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>                  >
>                  >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish,
>                 which would put it at
>                  >         (with
>                  >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like
>                 the firefly too.
>                  >
>                  >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas
>                 <gris@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>                  >         <mailto:gris@apache.org
>                 <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>                  >          >
>                  >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo
>                 taking off!
>                  >          >
>                  >          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so
>                 many cool
>                  >         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very
>                 original.
>                  >          >
>                  >          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar
>                 because it looks like a
>                  >         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>                  >          >
>                  >          > Feedback on the current sketches.
>                  >          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat
>                 or Totoro [1]
>                  >          > - I'd like to see something that is
>                 completely new and
>                  >         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>                  >          > - Something more caricaturesque is better,
>                 since we can dress
>                  >         it up and modify it
>                  >          >
>                  >          > To move forward, it seems that the animals
>                 that were winners
>                  >         in this thread are:
>                  >          >
>                  >          > Beaver (3)
>                  >          > Firefly (3)
>                  >          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>                  >          > Cuttlefish (2)
>                  >          > Hedgehog (1)
>                  >          > Salmon (1)
>                  >          >
>                  >          > So let's focus the design proposals on the
>                 three winners:
>                  >         beaver, firefly and lemur.
>                  >          > I'd like to see more options on beavers
>                 and fireflies, the
>                  >         current sketch options I think are based on
>                 the cuttlefish and
>                  >         the lemur (?)
>                  >          >
>                  >          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches
>                 from multiple
>                  >         designers, since like someone else pointed
>                 out, we'll get
>                  >         variations based on their personal styles,
>                 and someone else
>                  >         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>                 <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
>                  >         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
>                 with designers in
>                  >         their teams, so let's take advantage of that
>                 as well :)
>                  >          >
>                  >          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into
>                 a call for sketched
>                  >         and we vote on that.
>                  >          >
>                  >          > [1]
>                  >
>                 https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
>                  >          > [2]
>                  >
>                 https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
>                  >
> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
Well then...

I think this thread has gone on for some time and seems to have settled
down. We probably have enough candidates. Gris summarized the status
earlier but I think it will help to do something slightly more formal. I
think I'll try moving on with what I suggested. I will start a slightly
more formal thread to identify the favorite. This will be more clear than a
mixed discussion with preferences. If people do not like the style of the
thread I will start, we can figure out another way.

Kenn

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 3:06 PM Alex Van Boxel <al...@vanboxel.be> wrote:

> I like the "Angler fish" as well... it certainly faster then a
> cuttlefish....
>
>  _/
> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM Kirill Kozlov <ki...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting [1,
>> 2, 3, 4].
>> [1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
>> [2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
>> [3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
>> [4]
>> https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector&clickthrough_id=1413785108&redirect_back=true
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I
>>> vote for that.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
>>>> Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
>>>> they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
>>>> or anyone who could execution a professional logo.
>>>>
>>>> I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting
>>>> with an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an
>>>> ASF-style vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go
>>>> through more standard design process.
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
>>>>> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from
>>>>> here.
>>>>> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion
>>>>> on
>>>>> the type of mascot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made
>>>>> by
>>>>> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
>>>>> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
>>>>> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
>>>>> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
>>>>> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still
>>>>> a
>>>>> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
>>>>> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
>>>>> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
>>>>> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
>>>>> simply won't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
>>>>> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
>>>>> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how
>>>>> to
>>>>> proceed here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
>>>>> > I also vote for firefly.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>>>> valentyn@google.com
>>>>> > <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>>>>> >     <robertwb@google.com <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it
>>>>> at
>>>>> >         (with
>>>>> >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <
>>>>> gris@apache.org
>>>>> >         <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
>>>>> >         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like
>>>>> a
>>>>> >         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > Feedback on the current sketches.
>>>>> >          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>>>>> >          > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
>>>>> >         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>>>>> >          > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can
>>>>> dress
>>>>> >         it up and modify it
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were
>>>>> winners
>>>>> >         in this thread are:
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > Beaver (3)
>>>>> >          > Firefly (3)
>>>>> >          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>>>>> >          > Cuttlefish (2)
>>>>> >          > Hedgehog (1)
>>>>> >          > Salmon (1)
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
>>>>> >         beaver, firefly and lemur.
>>>>> >          > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
>>>>> >         current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish
>>>>> and
>>>>> >         the lemur (?)
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
>>>>> >         designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
>>>>> >         variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
>>>>> >         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>>>>> <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
>>>>> >         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in
>>>>> >         their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for
>>>>> sketched
>>>>> >         and we vote on that.
>>>>> >          >
>>>>> >          > [1]
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
>>>>> >          > [2]
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Alex Van Boxel <al...@vanboxel.be>.
I like the "Angler fish" as well... it certainly faster then a
cuttlefish....

 _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM Kirill Kozlov <ki...@google.com>
wrote:

> Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting [1,
> 2, 3, 4].
> [1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
> [2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
> [3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
> [4]
> https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector&clickthrough_id=1413785108&redirect_back=true
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I vote
>> for that.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
>>> Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
>>> they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
>>> or anyone who could execution a professional logo.
>>>
>>> I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting with
>>> an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an ASF-style
>>> vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go through more
>>> standard design process.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
>>>> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from
>>>> here.
>>>> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on
>>>> the type of mascot.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made
>>>> by
>>>> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
>>>> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
>>>> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
>>>> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
>>>> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>>>>
>>>> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still
>>>> a
>>>> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
>>>> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
>>>> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
>>>> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
>>>> simply won't work.
>>>>
>>>> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
>>>> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
>>>> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how
>>>> to
>>>> proceed here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
>>>> > I also vote for firefly.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>>> valentyn@google.com
>>>> > <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>>>> >
>>>> >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>>>> >     <robertwb@google.com <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it
>>>> at
>>>> >         (with
>>>> >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>>>> >
>>>> >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gris@apache.org
>>>> >         <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
>>>> >         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
>>>> >         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > Feedback on the current sketches.
>>>> >          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>>>> >          > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
>>>> >         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>>>> >          > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can
>>>> dress
>>>> >         it up and modify it
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were
>>>> winners
>>>> >         in this thread are:
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > Beaver (3)
>>>> >          > Firefly (3)
>>>> >          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>>>> >          > Cuttlefish (2)
>>>> >          > Hedgehog (1)
>>>> >          > Salmon (1)
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
>>>> >         beaver, firefly and lemur.
>>>> >          > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
>>>> >         current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
>>>> >         the lemur (?)
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
>>>> >         designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
>>>> >         variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
>>>> >         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>>>> <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
>>>> >         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in
>>>> >         their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for
>>>> sketched
>>>> >         and we vote on that.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > [1]
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
>>>> >          > [2]
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Kirill Kozlov <ki...@google.com>.
Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting [1, 2,
3, 4].
[1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
[2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
[3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
[4]
https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector&clickthrough_id=1413785108&redirect_back=true

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>
wrote:

> That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I vote
> for that.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
>> Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
>> they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
>> or anyone who could execution a professional logo.
>>
>> I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting with
>> an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an ASF-style
>> vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go through more
>> standard design process.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
>>> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from here.
>>> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on
>>> the type of mascot.
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made by
>>> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
>>> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
>>> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
>>> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
>>> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>>>
>>> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still a
>>> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
>>> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
>>> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
>>> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
>>> simply won't work.
>>>
>>> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
>>> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
>>> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how to
>>> proceed here.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
>>> > I also vote for firefly.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>> valentyn@google.com
>>> > <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>>> >
>>> >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>>> >     <robertwb@google.com <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at
>>> >         (with
>>> >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>>> >
>>> >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gris@apache.org
>>> >         <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >          >
>>> >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>>> >          >
>>> >          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
>>> >         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>>> >          >
>>> >          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
>>> >         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>>> >          >
>>> >          > Feedback on the current sketches.
>>> >          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>>> >          > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
>>> >         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>>> >          > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can
>>> dress
>>> >         it up and modify it
>>> >          >
>>> >          > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners
>>> >         in this thread are:
>>> >          >
>>> >          > Beaver (3)
>>> >          > Firefly (3)
>>> >          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>>> >          > Cuttlefish (2)
>>> >          > Hedgehog (1)
>>> >          > Salmon (1)
>>> >          >
>>> >          > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
>>> >         beaver, firefly and lemur.
>>> >          > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
>>> >         current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
>>> >         the lemur (?)
>>> >          >
>>> >          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
>>> >         designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
>>> >         variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
>>> >         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>>> <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
>>> >         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in
>>> >         their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>>> >          >
>>> >          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for
>>> sketched
>>> >         and we vote on that.
>>> >          >
>>> >          > [1]
>>> >
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
>>> >          > [2]
>>> >
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>.
That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really good. I vote
for that.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:

> PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs.
> Please find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that
> they are occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer
> or anyone who could execution a professional logo.
>
> I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting with
> an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an ASF-style
> vote to record the validated result. From there, we can go through more
> standard design process.
>
> Kenn
>
> [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
>> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from here.
>> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on
>> the type of mascot.
>>
>> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made by
>> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
>> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
>> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
>> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
>> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>>
>> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still a
>> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
>> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
>> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
>> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
>> simply won't work.
>>
>> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
>> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
>> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how to
>> proceed here.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
>> > I also vote for firefly.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>> valentyn@google.com
>> > <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>> >
>> >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>> >     <robertwb@google.com <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at
>> >         (with
>> >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>> >
>> >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gris@apache.org
>> >         <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >          >
>> >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>> >          >
>> >          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
>> >         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>> >          >
>> >          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
>> >         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>> >          >
>> >          > Feedback on the current sketches.
>> >          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>> >          > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
>> >         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>> >          > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress
>> >         it up and modify it
>> >          >
>> >          > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners
>> >         in this thread are:
>> >          >
>> >          > Beaver (3)
>> >          > Firefly (3)
>> >          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>> >          > Cuttlefish (2)
>> >          > Hedgehog (1)
>> >          > Salmon (1)
>> >          >
>> >          > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
>> >         beaver, firefly and lemur.
>> >          > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
>> >         current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
>> >         the lemur (?)
>> >          >
>> >          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
>> >         designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
>> >         variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
>> >         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>> <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
>> >         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in
>> >         their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>> >          >
>> >          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched
>> >         and we vote on that.
>> >          >
>> >          > [1]
>> >
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
>> >          > [2]
>> >
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
>> >
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not their legs. Please
find attached illustrations to that effect. And also evidence that they are
occasionally fancy. Definitely *not* from a respectable designer or anyone
who could execution a professional logo.

I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest starting with an
approval vote [1] for animal (no plant ideas?) and then an ASF-style vote
to record the validated result. From there, we can go through more standard
design process.

Kenn

[1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:

> It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of
> great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from here.
> Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on
> the type of mascot.
>
> Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made by
> a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very
> generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is
> to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring
> multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all
> come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.
>
> The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still a
> decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks
> good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've
> tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake
> of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It
> simply won't work.
>
> How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo
> will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the
> greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how to
> proceed here.
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
> > I also vote for firefly.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <valentyn@google.com
> > <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
> >
> >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
> >     <robertwb@google.com <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at
> >         (with
> >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
> >
> >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gris@apache.org
> >         <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
> >          >
> >          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
> >         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
> >          >
> >          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
> >         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
> >          >
> >          > Feedback on the current sketches.
> >          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
> >          > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
> >         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
> >          > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress
> >         it up and modify it
> >          >
> >          > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners
> >         in this thread are:
> >          >
> >          > Beaver (3)
> >          > Firefly (3)
> >          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
> >          > Cuttlefish (2)
> >          > Hedgehog (1)
> >          > Salmon (1)
> >          >
> >          > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
> >         beaver, firefly and lemur.
> >          > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
> >         current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
> >         the lemur (?)
> >          >
> >          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
> >         designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
> >         variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
> >         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
> <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
> >         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in
> >         their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
> >          >
> >          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched
> >         and we vote on that.
> >          >
> >          > [1]
> >
> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
> >          > [2]
> >
> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
> >
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
It's great we're having this discussion and we came up with a lot of 
great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we proceed from here. 
Certainly, we can't let designers work with an open-ended discussion on 
the type of mascot.

Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long as it is made by 
a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking to was very 
generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't think that this is 
to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea of hiring 
multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those designers to all 
come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.

The sketches I've sent might not look like much because there is still a 
decent process involved in coming up with the final logo which looks 
good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations. So far I've 
tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here, but for the sake 
of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop doing that. It 
simply won't work.

How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally executed logo 
will do, this is really more about the community agreeing for the 
greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to decide on how to 
proceed here.

Cheers,
Max

On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
> I also vote for firefly.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <valentyn@google.com 
> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
> 
>     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
>     <robertwb@google.com <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at
>         (with
>         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
> 
>         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gris@apache.org
>         <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>          >
>          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>          >
>          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool
>         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>          >
>          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a
>         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>          >
>          > Feedback on the current sketches.
>          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>          > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and
>         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>          > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress
>         it up and modify it
>          >
>          > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners
>         in this thread are:
>          >
>          > Beaver (3)
>          > Firefly (3)
>          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>          > Cuttlefish (2)
>          > Hedgehog (1)
>          > Salmon (1)
>          >
>          > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners:
>         beaver, firefly and lemur.
>          > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the
>         current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and
>         the lemur (?)
>          >
>          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple
>         designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get
>         variations based on their personal styles, and someone else
>         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in
>         their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>          >
>          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched
>         and we vote on that.
>          >
>          > [1]
>         https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
>          > [2]
>         https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Hannah Jiang <ha...@google.com>.
I also vote for firefly.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <va...@google.com>
wrote:

> I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at (with
>> 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>> >
>> > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as
>> a stuffed animal is very original.
>> >
>> > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data
>> pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>> >
>> > Feedback on the current sketches.
>> > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
>> > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and original,
>> pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
>> > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and
>> modify it
>> >
>> > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this
>> thread are:
>> >
>> > Beaver (3)
>> > Firefly (3)
>> > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
>> > Cuttlefish (2)
>> > Hedgehog (1)
>> > Salmon (1)
>> >
>> > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver,
>> firefly and lemur.
>> > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current
>> sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)
>> >
>> > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since
>> like someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal
>> styles, and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies
>> <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in their
>> teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>> >
>> > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we
>> vote on that.
>> >
>> > [1]
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
>> > [2]
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Valentyn Tymofieiev <va...@google.com>.
I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite so far.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>
wrote:

> #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at (with
> 4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
> >
> > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as a
> stuffed animal is very original.
> >
> > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data
> pipeline, lol or the beaver!
> >
> > Feedback on the current sketches.
> > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
> > - I'd like to see something that is completely new and original,
> pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
> > - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and
> modify it
> >
> > To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this
> thread are:
> >
> > Beaver (3)
> > Firefly (3)
> > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
> > Cuttlefish (2)
> > Hedgehog (1)
> > Salmon (1)
> >
> > So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver,
> firefly and lemur.
> > I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current
> sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)
> >
> > I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since
> like someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal
> styles, and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies
> <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies> with designers in their teams,
> so let's take advantage of that as well :)
> >
> > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we
> vote on that.
> >
> > [1]
> https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
> > [2]
> https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>.
#37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish, which would put it at (with
4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like the firefly too.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off!
>
> I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original.
>
> Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
>
> Feedback on the current sketches.
> - They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
> - I'd like to see something that is completely new and original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
> - Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and modify it
>
> To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this thread are:
>
> Beaver (3)
> Firefly (3)
> Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
> Cuttlefish (2)
> Hedgehog (1)
> Salmon (1)
>
> So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver, firefly and lemur.
> I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)
>
> I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal styles, and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies with designers in their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :)
>
> I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we vote on that.
>
> [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
> [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Gris Cuevas <gr...@apache.org>.
Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo taking off! 

I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so many cool variations, and as a stuffed animal is very original. 

Other ideas I had are a caterpillar because it looks like a data pipeline, lol or the beaver! 

Feedback on the current sketches. 
- They resemble a lot either the Octocat or Totoro [1]
- I'd like to see something that is completely new and original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
- Something more caricaturesque is better, since we can dress it up and modify it

To move forward, it seems that the animals that were winners in this thread are: 

Beaver (3)
Firefly (3)
Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
Cuttlefish (2)
Hedgehog (1)
Salmon (1) 

So let's focus the design proposals on the three winners: beaver, firefly and lemur. 
I'd like to see more options on beavers and fireflies, the current sketch options I think are based on the cuttlefish and the lemur (?)

I think it's a good idea to get sketches from multiple designers, since like someone else pointed out, we'll get variations based on their personal styles, and someone else mentioned here that we have teams/companies with designers in their teams, so let's take advantage of that as well :) 

I'd suggest to fork the conversation into a call for sketched and we vote on that. 

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Jozef Vilcek <jo...@gmail.com>.
Interesting topic :) I kind of liked also Alex's firefly. The impression it
made on me. To drive it further, hands on hips make strong / serious pose,
hovering in the air above all.
I would put logo on the him, to become is torso / body or a dress. Logo
with a big B on it almost looks like superhero dress / cap ( which is
popular tune these "days" :) ).

To summarize, I would love mascot not only looks nice, but be deadly
serious about doing cool stuff and pulling superhero features out of it's
sleeve :D

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:17 PM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:

> > Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?
>
> +1 That would combine two ideas: (1) "Beam" eyes and (2) sea animal.
>
> We could set this as the working idea and build a logo based off that.
>
> On 12.11.19 22:41, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:29 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > <ai...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> 52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.
> >
> > Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> More logos :D
> >>>
> >>> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
> >>>
> >>>   From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
> >>> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
> >>> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Max
> >>>
> >>> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> >>>> Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
> >>>> they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
> >>>> (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
> >>>> the logo into the trailing beam of light.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are
> also cute.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <
> mxm@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in
> one image
> >>>>>>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My
> favorites are
> >>>>>>>>>> (2) and (9).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
> sketches,
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Max
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point
> ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fire2.jpg
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     _/
> >>>>>>>>>>>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <
> kcweaver@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>       Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with
> trout, but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>       the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their
> cover a "robot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>       dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is
> worth
> >>>>>>>>>>>> revisiting?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>       On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <
> lcwik@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>       <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>           My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>           On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <
> rez@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>           <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>               Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>               On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>               <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter
> if they are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   taken if they are not too close in space to
> Beam: Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   projects, big data, log processing, stream
> processing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic
> opinion. So I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   would keep Lemur as a possibility.
> Definitely nginx is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   far away from Beam so it seems OK as long
> as the art is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   different.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs,
> and also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   related Tarsier, of the only
> uncontroversial and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   non-extinct infraorder within suborder
> Strepsirrhini. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   think there's enough room for another
> mascot with big
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   glowing eyes :-). The difference in the
> designer's art
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   will be more significant than the taxonomy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   Kenn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal
> Nurmamat kyzy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                   <aizhamal@apache.org <mailto:
> aizhamal@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But
> then lemur is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       Personally, I don't think it matters
> much which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       mascots are taken, as long as the
> project is not too
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       close in the same space as Beam. Also,
> it's good to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       just get all ideas out. We should still
> consider
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they
> don't look
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
> :/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       And thanks for reaching out to
> designers, Max. To
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       your point:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                        >how do we arrive at a concrete design
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                        >once we have consensus on the type of
> mascot?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       My thinking is that the designer will
> come up with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       few sketches, then we vote on one here
> in the dev@
> >>>>>>>>>>>> list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM
> Maximilian Michels
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                       <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           Quick update: The mentioned
> designer has gotten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           back to me and offered
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           to sketch something until the end
> of the week.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           I've pointed him to this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           thread and the existing logo
> material:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           [I don't want to interrupt the
> discussion in any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           way, I just think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           having something concrete will help
> us to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           eventually decide what we want.]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian
> Michels wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > How about fireflies in the Beam
> light rays? ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> Feels like "Beam" would go well
> with an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           animal that has glowing bright
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> eyes such as a lemur
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > I love the lemur idea because it
> has almost
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           orange eyes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > Thanks for starting this
> Aizhamal! I've
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           recently talked to a designer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > which is somewhat famous for
> creating logos.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           He was inclined to work on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > a software project logo. Of
> course there is a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           little bit of a price tag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > attached, though the quote
> sounded reasonable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > It raises the general question,
> how do we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           arrive at a concrete design
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > once we have consensus on the
> type of mascot?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           I believe there are also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > designers working at companies
> using Beam ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > Max
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene
> Kirpichov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> Feels like "Beam" would go well
> with an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           animal that has glowing bright
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> eyes (with beams of light
> shooting out of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           them), such as a lemur [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> or an owl.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM
> Kenneth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           Knowles <kenn@apache.org <mailto:
> kenn@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Direct connections often
> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           duplicates. For example in the log
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     processing space, there is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     I like a flying squirrel,
> but Flink
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           already is a squirrel.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Hedgehog? I could not find
> any source of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           confusion for this one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Kenn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02
> PM Robert
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           Burke <robert@frantil.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@frantil.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@frantil.com>>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         As both a Canadian, and
> the resident
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           fan of a programming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         language with a rodent
> mascot, I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           endorse this mascot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019,
> 4:11 PM David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         <mailto:
> dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             I like it, a beaver
> could be a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           cute mascot :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019
> at 3:33 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             <
> aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 I think the
> idea of creating
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           a Beam mascot has been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 brought up a
> couple times
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           here in the past, but I would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like us to go
> through with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           it this time if we are all in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 agreement:)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 We can
> brainstorm in this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           thread what the mascot should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 be given Beam’s
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           characteristics and principles.
> What do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 you all think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 For example, I
> am proposing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           a beaver as a mascot,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> because:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 1. Beavers
> build dams out of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           logs for streams
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 2. The name is
> close to Beam
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 3. And with the
> right
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           imagination, you can make a really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 cute beaver :D
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 WDYT? If you
> don’t like the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           beaver, what are the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 options that
> you think could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           be appropriate? I would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like to invite
> others to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           propose ideas and get the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 discussions
> going.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Aizhamal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019,
> 4:11 PM David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         <mailto:
> dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             I like it, a beaver
> could be a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           cute mascot :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019
> at 3:33 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             <
> aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 I think the
> idea of creating
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           a Beam mascot has been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 brought up a
> couple times
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           here in the past, but I would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like us to go
> through with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           it this time if we are all in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 agreement:)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 We can
> brainstorm in this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           thread what the mascot should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 be given Beam’s
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           characteristics and principles.
> What do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 you all think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 For example, I
> am proposing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           a beaver as a mascot,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> because:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 1. Beavers
> build dams out of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           logs for streams
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 2. The name is
> close to Beam
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 3. And with the
> right
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           imagination, you can make a really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 cute beaver :D
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 WDYT? If you
> don’t like the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           beaver, what are the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 options that
> you think could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           be appropriate? I would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like to invite
> others to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                           propose ideas and get the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 discussions
> going.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Aizhamal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
> Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?

+1 That would combine two ideas: (1) "Beam" eyes and (2) sea animal.

We could set this as the working idea and build a logo based off that.

On 12.11.19 22:41, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:29 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> <ai...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.
> 
> Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> More logos :D
>>>
>>> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
>>>
>>>   From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
>>> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
>>> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>>>> Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
>>>> they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
>>>> (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
>>>> the logo into the trailing beam of light.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>>>>>>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>>>>>>>>>> (2) and (9).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Max
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fire2.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     _/
>>>>>>>>>>>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>       the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
>>>>>>>>>>>>       dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>>>>>>>>>>>> revisiting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>       On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>       <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>           My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>           On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>           <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>               Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>               On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>>>>>>>>>>>               <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   Kenn
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       your point:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           back to me and offered
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           to sketch something until the end of the week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           I've pointed him to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           thread and the existing logo material:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           way, I just think
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           having something concrete will help us to
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           eventually decide what we want.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           animal that has glowing bright
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           orange eyes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           recently talked to a designer
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           He was inclined to work on
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > a software project logo. Of course there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           little bit of a price tag
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > It raises the general question, how do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           arrive at a concrete design
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           I believe there are also
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           animal that has glowing bright
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           them), such as a lemur [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> or an owl.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           Knowles <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Direct connections often have
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           duplicates. For example in the log
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     processing space, there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           already is a squirrel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           confusion for this one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     Kenn
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@frantil.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           fan of a programming
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           endorse this mascot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           cute mascot :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           here in the past, but I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like us to go through with
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           it this time if we are all in
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           thread what the mascot should
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 you all think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> because:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           logs for streams
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           imagination, you can make a really
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           beaver, what are the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 options that you think could
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           be appropriate? I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           propose ideas and get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           cute mascot :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           here in the past, but I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like us to go through with
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           it this time if we are all in
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           thread what the mascot should
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 you all think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >> because:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           logs for streams
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           imagination, you can make a really
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           beaver, what are the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 options that you think could
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           be appropriate? I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>>>>>>>>>                           propose ideas and get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>>>>>                            >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:29 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
<ai...@apache.org> wrote:
> 52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.

Same. What about 37 with the eyes from 52?

> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> More logos :D
>>
>> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
>>
>>  From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
>> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
>> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>> > Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
>> > they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
>> > (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
>> > the logo into the trailing beam of light.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>> >>>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>> >>>>>>> (2) and (9).
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>> Max
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>> >>>>>>>> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -Max
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Fire2.jpg
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>    _/
>> >>>>>>>>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>      Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>> >>>>>>>>>      the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
>> >>>>>>>>>      dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>> >>>>>>>>> revisiting?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>      On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>      <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>          My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>          On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>          <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>              Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>              On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>> >>>>>>>>>              <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>> >>>>>>>>>                  taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
>> >>>>>>>>>                  projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>> >>>>>>>>>                  would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>> >>>>>>>>>                  far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>> >>>>>>>>>                  different.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>> >>>>>>>>>                  related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>> >>>>>>>>>                  non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>> >>>>>>>>>                  think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>> >>>>>>>>>                  glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>> >>>>>>>>>                  will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  Kenn
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                  On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>>>>>>>>                  <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>> >>>>>>>>>                      also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>> >>>>>>>>>                      mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
>> >>>>>>>>>                      close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>> >>>>>>>>>                      just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>> >>>>>>>>>                      hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>> >>>>>>>>>                      nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>> >>>>>>>>>                      your point:
>> >>>>>>>>>                       >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> >>>>>>>>>                       >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>> >>>>>>>>>                      My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>> >>>>>>>>>                      few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>> >>>>>>>>> list.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      [2]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                      On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>> >>>>>>>>>                      <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>> >>>>>>>>>                          back to me and offered
>> >>>>>>>>>                          to sketch something until the end of the week.
>> >>>>>>>>>                          I've pointed him to this
>> >>>>>>>>>                          thread and the existing logo material:
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
>> >>>>>>>>>                          way, I just think
>> >>>>>>>>>                          having something concrete will help us to
>> >>>>>>>>>                          eventually decide what we want.]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>> >>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes such as a lemur
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>> >>>>>>>>>                          orange eyes.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>> >>>>>>>>>                          recently talked to a designer
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
>> >>>>>>>>>                          He was inclined to work on
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > a software project logo. Of course there is a
>> >>>>>>>>>                          little bit of a price tag
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > It raises the general question, how do we
>> >>>>>>>>>                          arrive at a concrete design
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>> >>>>>>>>>                          I believe there are also
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > Max
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >
>> >>>>>>>>>                           > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>> >>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          them), such as a lemur [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> or an owl.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> [1]
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Knowles <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Direct connections often have
>> >>>>>>>>>                          duplicates. For example in the log
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     processing space, there is
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>> >>>>>>>>>                          already is a squirrel.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          confusion for this one.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Kenn
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Burke <robert@frantil.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@frantil.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident
>> >>>>>>>>>                          fan of a programming
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>> >>>>>>>>>                          endorse this mascot.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>> >>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of creating
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple times
>> >>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go through with
>> >>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>> >>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
>> >>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am proposing
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the right
>> >>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>> >>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you think could
>> >>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite others to
>> >>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>> >>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>> >>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of creating
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple times
>> >>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go through with
>> >>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>> >>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
>> >>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am proposing
>> >>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>> >>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the right
>> >>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
>> >>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>> >>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you think could
>> >>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite others to
>> >>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>              --
>> >>>>>>>>>              This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>> >>>>>>>>>              received this communication by mistake, please don't forward
>> >>>>>>>>>              it to anyone else, please erase all copies and attachments,
>> >>>>>>>>>              and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong person.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>              The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement,
>> >>>>>>>>>              are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
>> >>>>>>>>>              are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>> >>>>>>>>>              binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
>> >>>>>>>>>              created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final
>> >>>>>>>>>              form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
>> >>>>>>>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>.
52 and 37 for me. I don't know what 53 is, but I like it too.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:19 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:

> More logos :D
>
> (35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.
>
>  From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to
> move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite
> recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> > Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
> > they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
> > (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
> > the logo into the trailing beam of light.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also
> cute.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one
> image
> >>>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites
> are
> >>>>>>> (2) and (9).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
> sketches,
> >>>>>>>> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Max
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Fire2.jpg
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    _/
> >>>>>>>>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
> >>>>>>>>> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>      Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with
> trout, but
> >>>>>>>>>      the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover
> a "robot
> >>>>>>>>>      dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
> >>>>>>>>> revisiting?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>      On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>      <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>          My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>          On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <
> rez@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>          <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>              Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>              On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
> >>>>>>>>>              <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if
> they are
> >>>>>>>>>                  taken if they are not too close in space to
> Beam: Apache
> >>>>>>>>>                  projects, big data, log processing, stream
> processing.
> >>>>>>>>>                  Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion.
> So I
> >>>>>>>>>                  would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely
> nginx is
> >>>>>>>>>                  far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as
> the art is
> >>>>>>>>>                  different.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and
> also
> >>>>>>>>>                  related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
> >>>>>>>>>                  non-extinct infraorder within suborder
> Strepsirrhini. I
> >>>>>>>>>                  think there's enough room for another mascot
> with big
> >>>>>>>>>                  glowing eyes :-). The difference in the
> designer's art
> >>>>>>>>>                  will be more significant than the taxonomy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  Kenn
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                  On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal
> Nurmamat kyzy
> >>>>>>>>>                  <aizhamal@apache.org <mailto:
> aizhamal@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                      Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then
> lemur is
> >>>>>>>>>                      also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                      Personally, I don't think it matters much
> which
> >>>>>>>>>                      mascots are taken, as long as the project
> is not too
> >>>>>>>>>                      close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
> good to
> >>>>>>>>>                      just get all ideas out. We should still
> consider
> >>>>>>>>>                      hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they
> don't look
> >>>>>>>>>                      nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                      And thanks for reaching out to designers,
> Max. To
> >>>>>>>>>                      your point:
> >>>>>>>>>                       >how do we arrive at a concrete design
> >>>>>>>>>                       >once we have consensus on the type of
> mascot?
> >>>>>>>>>                      My thinking is that the designer will come
> up with
> >>>>>>>>>                      few sketches, then we vote on one here in
> the dev@
> >>>>>>>>> list.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                      [1]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                      [2]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                      On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian
> Michels
> >>>>>>>>>                      <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                          Quick update: The mentioned designer
> has gotten
> >>>>>>>>>                          back to me and offered
> >>>>>>>>>                          to sketch something until the end of
> the week.
> >>>>>>>>>                          I've pointed him to this
> >>>>>>>>>                          thread and the existing logo material:
> >>>>>>>>>
> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                          [I don't want to interrupt the
> discussion in any
> >>>>>>>>>                          way, I just think
> >>>>>>>>>                          having something concrete will help us
> to
> >>>>>>>>>                          eventually decide what we want.]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>                          On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           > How about fireflies in the Beam
> light rays? ;)
> >>>>>>>>>                           >
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well
> with an
> >>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes such as a lemur
> >>>>>>>>>                           >
> >>>>>>>>>                           > I love the lemur idea because it has
> almost
> >>>>>>>>>                          orange eyes.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >
> >>>>>>>>>                           > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal!
> I've
> >>>>>>>>>                          recently talked to a designer
> >>>>>>>>>                           > which is somewhat famous for
> creating logos.
> >>>>>>>>>                          He was inclined to work on
> >>>>>>>>>                           > a software project logo. Of course
> there is a
> >>>>>>>>>                          little bit of a price tag
> >>>>>>>>>                           > attached, though the quote sounded
> reasonable.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >
> >>>>>>>>>                           > It raises the general question, how
> do we
> >>>>>>>>>                          arrive at a concrete design
> >>>>>>>>>                           > once we have consensus on the type
> of mascot?
> >>>>>>>>>                          I believe there are also
> >>>>>>>>>                           > designers working at companies using
> Beam ;)
> >>>>>>>>>                           >
> >>>>>>>>>                           > Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>                           > Max
> >>>>>>>>>                           >
> >>>>>>>>>                           > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well
> with an
> >>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes (with beams of light shooting
> out of
> >>>>>>>>>                          them), such as a lemur [1]
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> or an owl.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM
> Kenneth
> >>>>>>>>>                          Knowles <kenn@apache.org <mailto:
> kenn@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Direct connections often have
> >>>>>>>>>                          duplicates. For example in the log
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     processing space, there is
> >>>>>>>>>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     I like a flying squirrel, but
> Flink
> >>>>>>>>>                          already is a squirrel.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any
> source of
> >>>>>>>>>                          confusion for this one.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     Kenn
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM
> Robert
> >>>>>>>>>                          Burke <robert@frantil.com
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@frantil.com>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         As both a Canadian, and the
> resident
> >>>>>>>>>                          fan of a programming
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         language with a rodent
> mascot, I
> >>>>>>>>>                          endorse this mascot.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11
> PM David
> >>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver
> could be a
> >>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at
> 3:33 PM
> >>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of
> creating
> >>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple
> times
> >>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go
> through with
> >>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm
> in this
> >>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
> >>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am
> proposing
> >>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build
> dams out of
> >>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is
> close to Beam
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the
> right
> >>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
> >>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t
> like the
> >>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you
> think could
> >>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite
> others to
> >>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11
> PM David
> >>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver
> could be a
> >>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at
> 3:33 PM
> >>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of
> creating
> >>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple
> times
> >>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go
> through with
> >>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm
> in this
> >>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
> >>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am
> proposing
> >>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
> >>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build
> dams out of
> >>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is
> close to Beam
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the
> right
> >>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
> >>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t
> like the
> >>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you
> think could
> >>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite
> others to
> >>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
> >>>>>>>>>                           >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>              --
> >>>>>>>>>              This email may be confidential and privileged. If
> you
> >>>>>>>>>              received this communication by mistake, please
> don't forward
> >>>>>>>>>              it to anyone else, please erase all copies and
> attachments,
> >>>>>>>>>              and please let me know that it has gone to the
> wrong person.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>              The above terms reflect a potential business
> arrangement,
> >>>>>>>>>              are provided solely as a basis for further
> discussion, and
> >>>>>>>>>              are not intended to be and do not constitute a
> legally
> >>>>>>>>>              binding obligation. No legally binding obligations
> will be
> >>>>>>>>>              created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in
> final
> >>>>>>>>>              form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
> >>>>>>>>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
More logos :D

(35) - (37), (51), (48), (53) go into the direction of cuttlefish.

 From the new ones I like (52) because of the eyes. (53) If we want to 
move into the direction of a water animal, the small ones are quite 
recognizable. Also, (23) and (36) are kinda cute.

Cheers,
Max

On 12.11.19 02:09, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
> they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
> (not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
> the logo into the trailing beam of light.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>>>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>>>>>>> (2) and (9).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>>>>> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>>>>>>>> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Max
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fire2.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    _/
>>>>>>>>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>>>>>>>>>      the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
>>>>>>>>>      dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>>>>>>>>> revisiting?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>>>>>>>>>      <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>          My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>          On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>>>>>>>>>          <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>>>>>>>>              <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>>>>>>>>>                  taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
>>>>>>>>>                  projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>>>>>>>>>                  Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>>>>>>>>                  would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>>>>>>>>>                  far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>>>>>>>>>                  different.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>>>>>>>>                  related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>>>>>>>>                  non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>>>>>>>>>                  think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>>>>>>>>>                  glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>>>>>>>>>                  will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  Kenn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>>>>                  <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                      Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>>>>>>>>>                      also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                      Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>>>>>>>>                      mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
>>>>>>>>>                      close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>>>>>>>>>                      just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>>>>>>>>                      hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>>>>>>>>>                      nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                      And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>>>>>>>>>                      your point:
>>>>>>>>>                       >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>>>>>>>                       >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>>>>>>                      My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>>>>>>>>>                      few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                      [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                      [2]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                      On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>>>>>>>>>                      <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                          Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>>>>>>>>>                          back to me and offered
>>>>>>>>>                          to sketch something until the end of the week.
>>>>>>>>>                          I've pointed him to this
>>>>>>>>>                          thread and the existing logo material:
>>>>>>>>>                          https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                          [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
>>>>>>>>>                          way, I just think
>>>>>>>>>                          having something concrete will help us to
>>>>>>>>>                          eventually decide what we want.]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                          On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>>>>>>>>                           >
>>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
>>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>>>>>>>                           >
>>>>>>>>>                           > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>>>>>>>>>                          orange eyes.
>>>>>>>>>                           >
>>>>>>>>>                           > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>>>>>>>>                          recently talked to a designer
>>>>>>>>>                           > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
>>>>>>>>>                          He was inclined to work on
>>>>>>>>>                           > a software project logo. Of course there is a
>>>>>>>>>                          little bit of a price tag
>>>>>>>>>                           > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>                           >
>>>>>>>>>                           > It raises the general question, how do we
>>>>>>>>>                          arrive at a concrete design
>>>>>>>>>                           > once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>>>>>>                          I believe there are also
>>>>>>>>>                           > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>>>>>>>>                           >
>>>>>>>>>                           > Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>                           > Max
>>>>>>>>>                           >
>>>>>>>>>                           > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>>>>>>                          animal that has glowing bright
>>>>>>>>>                           >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>>>>>>>>>                          them), such as a lemur [1]
>>>>>>>>>                           >> or an owl.
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >> [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>>>>>>>>                          Knowles <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>                           >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     Direct connections often have
>>>>>>>>>                          duplicates. For example in the log
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     processing space, there is
>>>>>>>>>                          https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>>>>>>>>                          already is a squirrel.
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of
>>>>>>>>>                          confusion for this one.
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     Kenn
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>>>>>>>>>                          Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@frantil.com>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident
>>>>>>>>>                          fan of a programming
>>>>>>>>>                           >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>>>>>>>>                          endorse this mascot.
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go through with
>>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you think could
>>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>>>>>>>>                          Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>>>>>>>>                          cute mascot :)
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>                          Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>>>>                           >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>                          <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>                          <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>>>>>>>>                          a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>>>>>>>                          here in the past, but I would
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like us to go through with
>>>>>>>>>                          it this time if we are all in
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>>>>>>>                          thread what the mascot should
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>>>>>>                          characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 you all think?
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>>>>>>>>                          a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>>>>>                           >> because:
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>>>>>>>>                          logs for streams
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>>>>>>                          imagination, you can make a really
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>>>>>>                          https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>>>>>>>>                          beaver, what are the other
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 options that you think could
>>>>>>>>>                          be appropriate? I would
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>>>>>>                          propose ideas and get the
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>                           >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>>                           >>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              --
>>>>>>>>>              This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>>>>>>>>>              received this communication by mistake, please don't forward
>>>>>>>>>              it to anyone else, please erase all copies and attachments,
>>>>>>>>>              and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong person.
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>              are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
>>>>>>>>>              are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>>>>>>>>>              binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
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>>>>>>>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>.
Cuttlefish are cool, but I don't know how recognizable they are, and
they don't scream "fast" or "stream-y" or "parallel processing" to me
(not that that's a requirement...) I like that firefly, nice working
the logo into the trailing beam of light.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:03 PM Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>>>>>> (2) and (9).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>>>>>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -Max
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>>>>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Fire2.jpg
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>   _/
>>>>>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>>>>>> >> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>>>>>> >>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
>>>>>> >>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>>>>>> >> revisiting?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>>>>>> >>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>>>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>>>>> >>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>>>>>> >>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
>>>>>> >>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>>>>>> >>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>>>>> >>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>>>>>> >>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>>>>>> >>                 different.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>>>>> >>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>>>>> >>                 non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>>>>>> >>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>>>>>> >>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>>>>>> >>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 Kenn
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>> >>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>>>>>> >>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>>>>> >>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
>>>>>> >>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>>>>>> >>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>>>>> >>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>>>>>> >>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>>>>>> >>                     your point:
>>>>>> >>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>>>> >>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>>> >>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>>>>>> >>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>>>>>> >> list.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                     [1]
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                     [2]
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>>>>>> >>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>>>>>> >>                         back to me and offered
>>>>>> >>                         to sketch something until the end of the week.
>>>>>> >>                         I've pointed him to this
>>>>>> >>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>>>>>> >>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
>>>>>> >>                         way, I just think
>>>>>> >>                         having something concrete will help us to
>>>>>> >>                         eventually decide what we want.]
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>>>> >>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>>> >>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>>>>>> >>                         orange eyes.
>>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>>> >>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>>>>> >>                         recently talked to a designer
>>>>>> >>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
>>>>>> >>                         He was inclined to work on
>>>>>> >>                          > a software project logo. Of course there is a
>>>>>> >>                         little bit of a price tag
>>>>>> >>                          > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>>> >>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>>>>>> >>                         arrive at a concrete design
>>>>>> >>                          > once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>>> >>                         I believe there are also
>>>>>> >>                          > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>>> >>                          > Cheers,
>>>>>> >>                          > Max
>>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>>> >>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>>>> >>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>>>>>> >>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>>>>>> >>                          >> or an owl.
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >> [1]
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>>>>> >>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>> >>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>>>>>> >>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>>>>>> >>                          >>     processing space, there is
>>>>>> >>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>>>>> >>                         already is a squirrel.
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of
>>>>>> >>                         confusion for this one.
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>     Kenn
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>>>>>> >>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
>>>>>> >>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident
>>>>>> >>                         fan of a programming
>>>>>> >>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>>>>> >>                         endorse this mascot.
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>>>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think could
>>>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>>>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think could
>>>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             --
>>>>>> >>             This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>>>>>> >>             received this communication by mistake, please don't forward
>>>>>> >>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and attachments,
>>>>>> >>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong person.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement,
>>>>>> >>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
>>>>>> >>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>>>>>> >>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
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Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Udi Meiri <eh...@google.com>.
Dumbo octopus anyone? https://youtu.be/DmqikqvLLLw?t=263


On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:

> The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one
>>>>> image
>>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>>>>> (2) and (9).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
>>>>> sketches,
>>>>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -Max
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>>>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Fire2.jpg
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>   _/
>>>>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>>>>> >> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout,
>>>>> but
>>>>> >>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
>>>>> "robot
>>>>> >>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>>>>> >> revisiting?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>>>>> >>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>>>> >>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they
>>>>> are
>>>>> >>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> >>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream
>>>>> processing.
>>>>> >>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>>>> >>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx
>>>>> is
>>>>> >>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the
>>>>> art is
>>>>> >>                 different.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>>>> >>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>>>> >>                 non-extinct infraorder within
>>>>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>>>>> >>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with
>>>>> big
>>>>> >>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's
>>>>> art
>>>>> >>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 Kenn
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat
>>>>> kyzy
>>>>> >>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then
>>>>> lemur is
>>>>> >>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>>>> >>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is
>>>>> not too
>>>>> >>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
>>>>> good to
>>>>> >>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>>>> >>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't
>>>>> look
>>>>> >>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max.
>>>>> To
>>>>> >>                     your point:
>>>>> >>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>>> >>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>> >>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up
>>>>> with
>>>>> >>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the
>>>>> dev@
>>>>> >> list.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                     [1]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                     [2]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian
>>>>> Michels
>>>>> >>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has
>>>>> gotten
>>>>> >>                         back to me and offered
>>>>> >>                         to sketch something until the end of the
>>>>> week.
>>>>> >>                         I've pointed him to this
>>>>> >>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>>>>> >>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion
>>>>> in any
>>>>> >>                         way, I just think
>>>>> >>                         having something concrete will help us to
>>>>> >>                         eventually decide what we want.]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>> >>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light
>>>>> rays? ;)
>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>>> >>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>> >>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has
>>>>> almost
>>>>> >>                         orange eyes.
>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>> >>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>>>> >>                         recently talked to a designer
>>>>> >>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating
>>>>> logos.
>>>>> >>                         He was inclined to work on
>>>>> >>                          > a software project logo. Of course there
>>>>> is a
>>>>> >>                         little bit of a price tag
>>>>> >>                          > attached, though the quote sounded
>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>> >>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>>>>> >>                         arrive at a concrete design
>>>>> >>                          > once we have consensus on the type of
>>>>> mascot?
>>>>> >>                         I believe there are also
>>>>> >>                          > designers working at companies using
>>>>> Beam ;)
>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>> >>                          > Cheers,
>>>>> >>                          > Max
>>>>> >>                          >
>>>>> >>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>>> >>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>>>>> >>                          >> or an owl.
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >> [1]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>>>> >>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <mailto:
>>>>> kenn@apache.org>
>>>>> >>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>>>>> >>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>>>>> >>                          >>     processing space, there is
>>>>> >>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>>>> >>                         already is a squirrel.
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any
>>>>> source of
>>>>> >>                         confusion for this one.
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>     Kenn
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM
>>>>> Robert
>>>>> >>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
>>>>> >>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the
>>>>> resident
>>>>> >>                         fan of a programming
>>>>> >>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>>>> >>                         endorse this mascot.
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM
>>>>> David
>>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could
>>>>> be a
>>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33
>>>>> PM
>>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>>>> creating
>>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple
>>>>> times
>>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through
>>>>> with
>>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in
>>>>> this
>>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>>>> proposing
>>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams
>>>>> out of
>>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>>>> Beam
>>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>>>> could
>>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM
>>>>> David
>>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could
>>>>> be a
>>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33
>>>>> PM
>>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>>>> creating
>>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple
>>>>> times
>>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through
>>>>> with
>>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in
>>>>> this
>>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>>>> proposing
>>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams
>>>>> out of
>>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>>>> Beam
>>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>>>> could
>>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>> >>                          >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             --
>>>>> >>             This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>>>>> >>             received this communication by mistake, please don't
>>>>> forward
>>>>> >>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and
>>>>> attachments,
>>>>> >>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong
>>>>> person.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             The above terms reflect a potential business
>>>>> arrangement,
>>>>> >>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion,
>>>>> and
>>>>> >>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>>>>> >>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will
>>>>> be
>>>>> >>             created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in
>>>>> final
>>>>> >>             form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com>.
The real answer, what cool schwag can we get based upon the mascot.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:

> I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one
>>>> image
>>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>>>> (2) and (9).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough
>>>> sketches,
>>>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>>>> >
>>>> > -Max
>>>> >
>>>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Fire2.jpg
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   _/
>>>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>>>> >> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout,
>>>> but
>>>> >>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
>>>> "robot
>>>> >>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>>>> >> revisiting?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>>>> >>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>>> >>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they
>>>> are
>>>> >>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
>>>> Apache
>>>> >>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream
>>>> processing.
>>>> >>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>>> >>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx
>>>> is
>>>> >>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art
>>>> is
>>>> >>                 different.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>>> >>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>>> >>                 non-extinct infraorder within
>>>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>>>> >>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>>>> >>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's
>>>> art
>>>> >>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Kenn
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur
>>>> is
>>>> >>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>>> >>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not
>>>> too
>>>> >>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
>>>> to
>>>> >>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>>> >>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>>>> >>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>>>> >>                     your point:
>>>> >>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>> >>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>> >>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up
>>>> with
>>>> >>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the
>>>> dev@
>>>> >> list.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     [1]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     [2]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>>>> >>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has
>>>> gotten
>>>> >>                         back to me and offered
>>>> >>                         to sketch something until the end of the
>>>> week.
>>>> >>                         I've pointed him to this
>>>> >>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>>>> >>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in
>>>> any
>>>> >>                         way, I just think
>>>> >>                         having something concrete will help us to
>>>> >>                         eventually decide what we want.]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>> >>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light
>>>> rays? ;)
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>> >>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has
>>>> almost
>>>> >>                         orange eyes.
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>>> >>                         recently talked to a designer
>>>> >>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating
>>>> logos.
>>>> >>                         He was inclined to work on
>>>> >>                          > a software project logo. Of course there
>>>> is a
>>>> >>                         little bit of a price tag
>>>> >>                          > attached, though the quote sounded
>>>> reasonable.
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>>>> >>                         arrive at a concrete design
>>>> >>                          > once we have consensus on the type of
>>>> mascot?
>>>> >>                         I believe there are also
>>>> >>                          > designers working at companies using Beam
>>>> ;)
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > Cheers,
>>>> >>                          > Max
>>>> >>                          >
>>>> >>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>>> >>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>>>> >>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>>>> >>                          >> or an owl.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >> [1]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>>> >>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <mailto:
>>>> kenn@apache.org>
>>>> >>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>>>> >>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>>>> >>                          >>     processing space, there is
>>>> >>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>>> >>                         already is a squirrel.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any
>>>> source of
>>>> >>                         confusion for this one.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     Kenn
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>>>> >>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
>>>> >>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the
>>>> resident
>>>> >>                         fan of a programming
>>>> >>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>>> >>                         endorse this mascot.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM
>>>> David
>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be
>>>> a
>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33
>>>> PM
>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>>> creating
>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through
>>>> with
>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>>> proposing
>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams
>>>> out of
>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>>> Beam
>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>>> the
>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>>> could
>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM
>>>> David
>>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be
>>>> a
>>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33
>>>> PM
>>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>>> creating
>>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through
>>>> with
>>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>>> proposing
>>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>>> >>                          >> because:
>>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams
>>>> out of
>>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>>> Beam
>>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>>> the
>>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>>> could
>>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>>> >>                          >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             --
>>>> >>             This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>>>> >>             received this communication by mistake, please don't
>>>> forward
>>>> >>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and
>>>> attachments,
>>>> >>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong
>>>> person.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement,
>>>> >>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion,
>>>> and
>>>> >>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>>>> >>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will
>>>> be
>>>> >>             created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final
>>>> >>             form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
I'm with Luke on cuttlefish. We can have color changing schwag...

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:57 AM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:

> I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>>> (2) and (9).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>>> >
>>> > -Max
>>> >
>>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Fire2.jpg
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>   _/
>>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>>> >> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>>> >>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
>>> "robot
>>> >>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>>> >> revisiting?
>>> >>
>>> >>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>>> >>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>> >>
>>> >>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>> >>
>>> >>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>> >>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>>> >>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
>>> Apache
>>> >>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>>> >>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>> >>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>>> >>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art
>>> is
>>> >>                 different.
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>> >>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>> >>                 non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini.
>>> I
>>> >>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>>> >>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>>> >>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Kenn
>>> >>
>>> >>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>> >>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur
>>> is
>>> >>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>> >>
>>> >>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>> >>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not
>>> too
>>> >>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
>>> to
>>> >>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>> >>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>>> >>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>> >>
>>> >>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>>> >>                     your point:
>>> >>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>> >>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>> >>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>>> >>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>>> >> list.
>>> >>
>>> >>                     [1]
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>> >>
>>> >>                     [2]
>>> >>
>>> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>> >>
>>> >>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>>> >>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has
>>> gotten
>>> >>                         back to me and offered
>>> >>                         to sketch something until the end of the week.
>>> >>                         I've pointed him to this
>>> >>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>>> >>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>> >>
>>> >>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in
>>> any
>>> >>                         way, I just think
>>> >>                         having something concrete will help us to
>>> >>                         eventually decide what we want.]
>>> >>
>>> >>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>> >>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light
>>> rays? ;)
>>> >>                          >
>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>> >>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>>> >>                          >
>>> >>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>>> >>                         orange eyes.
>>> >>                          >
>>> >>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>> >>                         recently talked to a designer
>>> >>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating
>>> logos.
>>> >>                         He was inclined to work on
>>> >>                          > a software project logo. Of course there
>>> is a
>>> >>                         little bit of a price tag
>>> >>                          > attached, though the quote sounded
>>> reasonable.
>>> >>                          >
>>> >>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>>> >>                         arrive at a concrete design
>>> >>                          > once we have consensus on the type of
>>> mascot?
>>> >>                         I believe there are also
>>> >>                          > designers working at companies using Beam
>>> ;)
>>> >>                          >
>>> >>                          > Cheers,
>>> >>                          > Max
>>> >>                          >
>>> >>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>> >>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>>> >>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>>> >>                          >> or an owl.
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >> [1]
>>> >>
>>> >> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>> >>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <mailto:
>>> kenn@apache.org>
>>> >>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>>> >>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>>> >>                          >>     processing space, there is
>>> >>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>> >>                         already is a squirrel.
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source
>>> of
>>> >>                         confusion for this one.
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>     Kenn
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>>> >>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
>>> >>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the
>>> resident
>>> >>                         fan of a programming
>>> >>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>> >>                         endorse this mascot.
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>> creating
>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>> proposing
>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>> >>                          >> because:
>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out
>>> of
>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>> Beam
>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>> the
>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>> could
>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>>> creating
>>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am
>>> proposing
>>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>> >>                          >> because:
>>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out
>>> of
>>> >>                         logs for streams
>>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>>> Beam
>>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like
>>> the
>>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>>> could
>>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>> >>                          >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>             --
>>> >>             This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>>> >>             received this communication by mistake, please don't
>>> forward
>>> >>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and
>>> attachments,
>>> >>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong
>>> person.
>>> >>
>>> >>             The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement,
>>> >>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
>>> >>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>>> >>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
>>> >>             created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final
>>> >>             form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
>>> >>
>>>
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by David Cavazos <dc...@google.com>.
I like 9 as well. Not related to anything, but chinchillas are also cute.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:

> 9 and 7 for me (in that order)
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
>> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
>> (2) and (9).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
>> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
>> >
>> > -Max
>> >
>> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Fire2.jpg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   _/
>> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
>> >> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>> >>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a
>> "robot
>> >>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
>> >> revisiting?
>> >>
>> >>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>> >>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>> >>
>> >>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>> >>
>> >>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>> >>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>> >>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam:
>> Apache
>> >>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>> >>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>> >>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>> >>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>> >>                 different.
>> >>
>> >>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>> >>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>> >>                 non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>> >>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>> >>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>> >>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>> >>
>> >>                 Kenn
>> >>
>> >>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>> >>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>> >>
>> >>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>> >>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not
>> too
>> >>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>> >>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>> >>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>> >>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>> >>
>> >>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>> >>                     your point:
>> >>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> >>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>> >>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>> >>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
>> >> list.
>> >>
>> >>                     [1]
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>> >>
>> >>                     [2]
>> >>
>> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>> >>
>> >>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>> >>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>> >>                         back to me and offered
>> >>                         to sketch something until the end of the week.
>> >>                         I've pointed him to this
>> >>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>> >>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>> >>
>> >>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in
>> any
>> >>                         way, I just think
>> >>                         having something concrete will help us to
>> >>                         eventually decide what we want.]
>> >>
>> >>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> >>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays?
>> ;)
>> >>                          >
>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>> >>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>> >>                          >
>> >>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>> >>                         orange eyes.
>> >>                          >
>> >>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>> >>                         recently talked to a designer
>> >>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
>> >>                         He was inclined to work on
>> >>                          > a software project logo. Of course there is
>> a
>> >>                         little bit of a price tag
>> >>                          > attached, though the quote sounded
>> reasonable.
>> >>                          >
>> >>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>> >>                         arrive at a concrete design
>> >>                          > once we have consensus on the type of
>> mascot?
>> >>                         I believe there are also
>> >>                          > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>> >>                          >
>> >>                          > Cheers,
>> >>                          > Max
>> >>                          >
>> >>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
>> >>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>> >>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>> >>                          >> or an owl.
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >> [1]
>> >>
>> >> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>> >>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <mailto:
>> kenn@apache.org>
>> >>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>> >>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>> >>                          >>     processing space, there is
>> >>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>> >>                         already is a squirrel.
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source
>> of
>> >>                         confusion for this one.
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>     Kenn
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>> >>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
>> >>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the
>> resident
>> >>                         fan of a programming
>> >>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>> >>                         endorse this mascot.
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>> creating
>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>> >>                          >> because:
>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out
>> of
>> >>                         logs for streams
>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>> Beam
>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>> could
>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
>> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>> >>                         cute mascot :)
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of
>> creating
>> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
>> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>> >>                         here in the past, but I would
>> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>> >>                         it this time if we are all in
>> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>> >>                         thread what the mascot should
>> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>                          >>                 you all think?
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>> >>                          >> because:
>> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out
>> of
>> >>                         logs for streams
>> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to
>> Beam
>> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
>> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>> >>                         beaver, what are the other
>> >>                          >>                 options that you think
>> could
>> >>                         be appropriate? I would
>> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>> >>                         propose ideas and get the
>> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
>> >>                          >>
>> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
>> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>                          >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>             --
>> >>             This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>> >>             received this communication by mistake, please don't
>> forward
>> >>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and attachments,
>> >>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong
>> person.
>> >>
>> >>             The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement,
>> >>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
>> >>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>> >>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
>> >>             created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final
>> >>             form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
>> >>
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com>.
9 and 7 for me (in that order)

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:18 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:

> Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image
> and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are
> (2) and (9).
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
> On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> > I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches,
> > I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> >> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
> >>
> >> Fire2.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   _/
> >> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com
> >> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
> >>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
> >>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth
> >> revisiting?
> >>
> >>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
> >>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> >>
> >>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> >>
> >>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
> >>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
> >>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
> >>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
> >>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
> >>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
> >>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
> >>                 different.
> >>
> >>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
> >>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
> >>                 non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
> >>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
> >>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
> >>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
> >>
> >>                 Kenn
> >>
> >>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
> >>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
> >>
> >>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
> >>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
> >>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
> >>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
> >>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
> >>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
> >>
> >>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
> >>                     your point:
> >>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
> >>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
> >>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up with
> >>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@
> >> list.
> >>
> >>                     [1]
> >>
> >>
> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
> >>
> >>                     [2]
> >>
> >> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
> >>
> >>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
> >>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
> >>                         back to me and offered
> >>                         to sketch something until the end of the week.
> >>                         I've pointed him to this
> >>                         thread and the existing logo material:
> >>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
> >>
> >>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
> >>                         way, I just think
> >>                         having something concrete will help us to
> >>                         eventually decide what we want.]
> >>
> >>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> >>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays?
> ;)
> >>                          >
> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
> >>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
> >>                          >
> >>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
> >>                         orange eyes.
> >>                          >
> >>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
> >>                         recently talked to a designer
> >>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
> >>                         He was inclined to work on
> >>                          > a software project logo. Of course there is a
> >>                         little bit of a price tag
> >>                          > attached, though the quote sounded
> reasonable.
> >>                          >
> >>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
> >>                         arrive at a concrete design
> >>                          > once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
> >>                         I believe there are also
> >>                          > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
> >>                          >
> >>                          > Cheers,
> >>                          > Max
> >>                          >
> >>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
> >>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
> >>                         animal that has glowing bright
> >>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
> >>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
> >>                          >> or an owl.
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >> [1]
> >>
> >> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
> >>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <mailto:
> kenn@apache.org>
> >>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>     Direct connections often have
> >>                         duplicates. For example in the log
> >>                          >>     processing space, there is
> >>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
> >>                         already is a squirrel.
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of
> >>                         confusion for this one.
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>     Kenn
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
> >>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
> >>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
> >>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident
> >>                         fan of a programming
> >>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
> >>                         endorse this mascot.
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
> >>                         cute mascot :)
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
> >>                         here in the past, but I would
> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
> >>                         it this time if we are all in
> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
> >>                         thread what the mascot should
> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
> >>                          >>                 you all think?
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
> >>                          >> because:
> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
> >>                         logs for streams
> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
> >>                         beaver, what are the other
> >>                          >>                 options that you think could
> >>                         be appropriate? I would
> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
> >>                         propose ideas and get the
> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
> >>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>                         <ma...@google.com>
> >>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
> >>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
> >>                         cute mascot :)
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
> >>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>
> >>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
> >>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
> >>                         a Beam mascot has been
> >>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
> >>                         here in the past, but I would
> >>                          >>                 like us to go through with
> >>                         it this time if we are all in
> >>                          >>                 agreement:)
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
> >>                         thread what the mascot should
> >>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
> >>                         characteristics and principles. What do
> >>                          >>                 you all think?
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
> >>                         a beaver as a mascot,
> >>                          >> because:
> >>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
> >>                         logs for streams
> >>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
> >>                          >>                 3. And with the right
> >>                         imagination, you can make a really
> >>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
> >>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
> >>                         beaver, what are the other
> >>                          >>                 options that you think could
> >>                         be appropriate? I would
> >>                          >>                 like to invite others to
> >>                         propose ideas and get the
> >>                          >>                 discussions going.
> >>                          >>
> >>                          >>                 Thanks,
> >>                          >>                 Aizhamal
> >>                          >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>             --
> >>             This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
> >>             received this communication by mistake, please don't forward
> >>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and attachments,
> >>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong person.
> >>
> >>             The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement,
> >>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
> >>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
> >>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
> >>             created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final
> >>             form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
> >>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
Here are some sketches from the designer. I've put them all in one image 
and added labels to make it easier to refer to them. My favorites are 
(2) and (9).

Cheers,
Max

On 09.11.19 19:43, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches, 
> I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.
> 
> -Max
> 
> On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
>> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
>>
>> Fire2.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>   _/
>> _/ Alex Van Boxel
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com 
>> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
>>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth 
>> revisiting?
>>
>>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>
>>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>
>>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
>>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>>                 different.
>>
>>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>>                 non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
>>
>>                 Kenn
>>
>>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
>>
>>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
>>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>>
>>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>>                     your point:
>>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@ 
>> list.
>>
>>                     [1]
>>                     
>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/ 
>>
>>                     [2]
>>                     
>> https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>
>>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>>                         back to me and offered
>>                         to sketch something until the end of the week.
>>                         I've pointed him to this
>>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>
>>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
>>                         way, I just think
>>                         having something concrete will help us to
>>                         eventually decide what we want.]
>>
>>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>                          >
>>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>>                          >
>>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>>                         orange eyes.
>>                          >
>>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>>                         recently talked to a designer
>>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
>>                         He was inclined to work on
>>                          > a software project logo. Of course there is a
>>                         little bit of a price tag
>>                          > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>                          >
>>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>>                         arrive at a concrete design
>>                          > once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>                         I believe there are also
>>                          > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>                          >
>>                          > Cheers,
>>                          > Max
>>                          >
>>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>>                         animal that has glowing bright
>>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>>                          >> or an owl.
>>                          >>
>>                          >> [1]
>>                         
>> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>                          >>
>>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>                          >>
>>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>                          >>
>>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>>                          >>     processing space, there is
>>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>                          >>
>>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>>                         already is a squirrel.
>>                          >>
>>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of
>>                         confusion for this one.
>>                          >>
>>                          >>     Kenn
>>                          >>
>>                          >>
>>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
>>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>>                          >>
>>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident
>>                         fan of a programming
>>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>>                         endorse this mascot.
>>                          >>
>>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>                          >>
>>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>                         cute mascot :)
>>                          >>
>>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>                         here in the past, but I would
>>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>>                         it this time if we are all in
>>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>                         thread what the mascot should
>>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>                          >>                 you all think?
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>                          >> because:
>>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>                         logs for streams
>>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>                         beaver, what are the other
>>                          >>                 options that you think could
>>                         be appropriate? I would
>>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>                         propose ideas and get the
>>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>                          >>
>>                          >>
>>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>                         <ma...@google.com>
>>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>>                          >>
>>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>>                         cute mascot :)
>>                          >>
>>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
>>                         a Beam mascot has been
>>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>>                         here in the past, but I would
>>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>>                         it this time if we are all in
>>                          >>                 agreement:)
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>>                         thread what the mascot should
>>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>>                          >>                 you all think?
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>>                          >> because:
>>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>>                         logs for streams
>>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>>                         imagination, you can make a really
>>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>>                         beaver, what are the other
>>                          >>                 options that you think could
>>                         be appropriate? I would
>>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>>                         propose ideas and get the
>>                          >>                 discussions going.
>>                          >>
>>                          >>                 Thanks,
>>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>>                          >>
>>
>>
>>
>>             --
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>>             received this communication by mistake, please don't forward
>>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and attachments,
>>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong person.
>>
>>             The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement,
>>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
>>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
>>             created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final
>>             form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
I like that sketch! The designer has also sent me some rough sketches, 
I'll share these here when I get consent from the designer.

-Max

On 09.11.19 19:22, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
> +1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)
> 
> Fire2.jpg
> 
> 
> 
>   _/
> _/ Alex Van Boxel
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kcweaver@google.com 
> <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but
>     the book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot
>     dinosaur with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth revisiting?
> 
>     On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lcwik@google.com
>     <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>         My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
> 
>         On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <rez@google.com
>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Salmon... they love streams? :-)
> 
>             On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles
>             <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>                 Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are
>                 taken if they are not too close in space to Beam: Apache
>                 projects, big data, log processing, stream processing.
>                 Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>                 would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is
>                 far away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is
>                 different.
> 
>                 Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also
>                 related Tarsier, of the only uncontroversial and
>                 non-extinct infraorder within suborder Strepsirrhini. I
>                 think there's enough room for another mascot with big
>                 glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art
>                 will be more significant than the taxonomy.
> 
>                 Kenn
> 
>                 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>                 <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>                     Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is
>                     also "taken" [1] and the owl too [2].
> 
>                     Personally, I don't think it matters much which
>                     mascots are taken, as long as the project is not too
>                     close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good to
>                     just get all ideas out. We should still consider
>                     hedgehogs. I looked up fireflies, they don't look
>                     nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
> 
>                     And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To
>                     your point:
>                      >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>                      >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>                     My thinking is that the designer will come up with
>                     few sketches, then we vote on one here in the dev@ list.
> 
>                     [1]
>                     https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>                     [2]
>                     https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
> 
>                     On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels
>                     <mxm@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>                         Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten
>                         back to me and offered
>                         to sketch something until the end of the week.
>                         I've pointed him to this
>                         thread and the existing logo material:
>                         https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
> 
>                         [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any
>                         way, I just think
>                         having something concrete will help us to
>                         eventually decide what we want.]
> 
>                         On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>                          > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>                          >
>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>                         animal that has glowing bright
>                          >> eyes such as a lemur
>                          >
>                          > I love the lemur idea because it has almost
>                         orange eyes.
>                          >
>                          > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've
>                         recently talked to a designer
>                          > which is somewhat famous for creating logos.
>                         He was inclined to work on
>                          > a software project logo. Of course there is a
>                         little bit of a price tag
>                          > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>                          >
>                          > It raises the general question, how do we
>                         arrive at a concrete design
>                          > once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>                         I believe there are also
>                          > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>                          >
>                          > Cheers,
>                          > Max
>                          >
>                          > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>                          >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an
>                         animal that has glowing bright
>                          >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of
>                         them), such as a lemur [1]
>                          >> or an owl.
>                          >>
>                          >> [1]
>                         https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>                          >>
>                          >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth
>                         Knowles <kenn@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>                          >> <mailto:kenn@apache.org
>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>                          >>
>                          >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>                          >>
>                          >>     Direct connections often have
>                         duplicates. For example in the log
>                          >>     processing space, there is
>                         https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>                          >>
>                          >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink
>                         already is a squirrel.
>                          >>
>                          >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of
>                         confusion for this one.
>                          >>
>                          >>     Kenn
>                          >>
>                          >>
>                          >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert
>                         Burke <robert@frantil.com
>                         <ma...@frantil.com>
>                          >>     <mailto:robert@frantil.com
>                         <ma...@frantil.com>>> wrote:
>                          >>
>                          >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident
>                         fan of a programming
>                          >>         language with a rodent mascot, I
>                         endorse this mascot.
>                          >>
>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>                         <ma...@google.com>
>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>                          >>
>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>                         cute mascot :)
>                          >>
>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>                          >>
>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>                          >>
>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
>                         a Beam mascot has been
>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>                         here in the past, but I would
>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>                         it this time if we are all in
>                          >>                 agreement:)
>                          >>
>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>                         thread what the mascot should
>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>                          >>                 you all think?
>                          >>
>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>                          >> because:
>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>                         logs for streams
>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>                         imagination, you can make a really
>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>                          >>
>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>                         beaver, what are the other
>                          >>                 options that you think could
>                         be appropriate? I would
>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>                         propose ideas and get the
>                          >>                 discussions going.
>                          >>
>                          >>                 Thanks,
>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>                          >>
>                          >>
>                          >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David
>                         Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>                         <ma...@google.com>
>                          >>         <mailto:dcavazos@google.com
>                         <ma...@google.com>>> wrote:
>                          >>
>                          >>             I like it, a beaver could be a
>                         cute mascot :)
>                          >>
>                          >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM
>                         Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>                          >>             <aizhamal@apache.org
>                         <ma...@apache.org>
>                         <mailto:aizhamal@apache.org
>                         <ma...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>                          >>
>                          >>                 Hi everybody,
>                          >>
>                          >>                 I think the idea of creating
>                         a Beam mascot has been
>                          >>                 brought up a couple times
>                         here in the past, but I would
>                          >>                 like us to go through with
>                         it this time if we are all in
>                          >>                 agreement:)
>                          >>
>                          >>                 We can brainstorm in this
>                         thread what the mascot should
>                          >>                 be given Beam’s
>                         characteristics and principles. What do
>                          >>                 you all think?
>                          >>
>                          >>                 For example, I am proposing
>                         a beaver as a mascot,
>                          >> because:
>                          >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of
>                         logs for streams
>                          >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>                          >>                 3. And with the right
>                         imagination, you can make a really
>                          >>                 cute beaver :D
>                         https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>                          >>
>                          >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the
>                         beaver, what are the other
>                          >>                 options that you think could
>                         be appropriate? I would
>                          >>                 like to invite others to
>                         propose ideas and get the
>                          >>                 discussions going.
>                          >>
>                          >>                 Thanks,
>                          >>                 Aizhamal
>                          >>
> 
> 
> 
>             -- 
> 
>             This email may be confidential and privileged. If you
>             received this communication by mistake, please don't forward
>             it to anyone else, please erase all copies and attachments,
>             and please let me know that it has gone to the wrong person.
> 
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>             are provided solely as a basis for further discussion, and
>             are not intended to be and do not constitute a legally
>             binding obligation. No legally binding obligations will be
>             created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final
>             form is executed in writing by all parties involved.
> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Alex Van Boxel <al...@vanboxel.be>.
+1 for a FireFly. Ok, I can't draw, but it's to make a point ;-)

[image: Fire2.jpg]



 _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:26 AM Kyle Weaver <kc...@google.com> wrote:

> Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but the
> book mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot dinosaur
> with a Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth revisiting?
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <re...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they
>>>> are not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log
>>>> processing, stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic
>>>> opinion. So I would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far
>>>> away from Beam so it seems OK as long as the art is different.
>>>>
>>>> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of
>>>> the only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
>>>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
>>>> big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
>>>> significant than the taxonomy.
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1]
>>>>> and the owl too [2].
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as
>>>>> long as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
>>>>> good to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I
>>>>> looked up fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
>>>>> :/
>>>>>
>>>>> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>>>>> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>>> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>>> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then
>>>>> we vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>>> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and
>>>>>> offered
>>>>>> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> thread and the existing logo material:
>>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
>>>>>> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we
>>>>>> want.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>>> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>>>>> bright
>>>>>> >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a
>>>>>> designer
>>>>>> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to
>>>>>> work on
>>>>>> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price
>>>>>> tag
>>>>>> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete
>>>>>> design
>>>>>> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>>> > Max
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>>>>> bright
>>>>>> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> >> or an owl.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1]
>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org
>>>>>> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the
>>>>>> log
>>>>>> >>     processing space, there is
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     Kenn
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <
>>>>>> robert@frantil.com
>>>>>> >>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>>>>>> >>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>>>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are
>>>>>> all in
>>>>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles.
>>>>>> What do
>>>>>> >>                 you all think?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>> >> because:
>>>>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>>>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>>>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>>>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are
>>>>>> all in
>>>>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles.
>>>>>> What do
>>>>>> >>                 you all think?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>>> >> because:
>>>>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>>>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>>>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> This email may be confidential and privileged. If you received this
>>> communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else, please
>>> erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it has gone
>>> to the wrong person.
>>>
>>> The above terms reflect a potential business arrangement, are provided
>>> solely as a basis for further discussion, and are not intended to be and do
>>> not constitute a legally binding obligation. No legally binding obligations
>>> will be created, implied, or inferred until an agreement in final form is
>>> executed in writing by all parties involved.
>>>
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Kyle Weaver <kc...@google.com>.
Re fish: The authors of the Streaming Systems went with trout, but the book
mentioned a missed opportunity to make their cover a "robot dinosaur with a
Scottish accent." Perhaps that idea is worth revisiting?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:20 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:

> My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <re...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
>>> not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
>>> stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>>> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
>>> so it seems OK as long as the art is different.
>>>
>>> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of
>>> the only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
>>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
>>> big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
>>> significant than the taxonomy.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1]
>>>> and the owl too [2].
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as
>>>> long as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
>>>> good to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I
>>>> looked up fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
>>>> :/
>>>>
>>>> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>>>> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>>> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then
>>>> we vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>>> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
>>>>> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to
>>>>> this
>>>>> thread and the existing logo material:
>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>>>
>>>>> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
>>>>> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we
>>>>> want.]
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>>> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>>>> bright
>>>>> >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a
>>>>> designer
>>>>> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work
>>>>> on
>>>>> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price
>>>>> tag
>>>>> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete
>>>>> design
>>>>> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are
>>>>> also
>>>>> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>> > Max
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>>>> bright
>>>>> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> >> or an owl.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org
>>>>> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>>>>> >>     processing space, there is
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Kenn
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>>> >>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>>>>> >>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>>>> would
>>>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are
>>>>> all in
>>>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>>>> should
>>>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles.
>>>>> What do
>>>>> >>                 you all think?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>> >> because:
>>>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>>>> really
>>>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the
>>>>> other
>>>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>>>> would
>>>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are
>>>>> all in
>>>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>>>> should
>>>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles.
>>>>> What do
>>>>> >>                 you all think?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>>>> >> because:
>>>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>>>> really
>>>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the
>>>>> other
>>>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com>.
My top suggestion is a cuttlefish.

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Reza Rokni <re...@google.com> wrote:

> Salmon... they love streams? :-)
>
> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
>> not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
>> stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
>> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
>> so it seems OK as long as the art is different.
>>
>> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of
>> the only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
>> suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
>> big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
>> significant than the taxonomy.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
>>> the owl too [2].
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as
>>> long as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
>>> good to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I
>>> looked up fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
>>> :/
>>>
>>> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>>> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>>> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
>>> vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>>> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
>>>> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
>>>> thread and the existing logo material:
>>>> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>>
>>>> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
>>>> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we
>>>> want.]
>>>>
>>>> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>>> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>>> >
>>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>>> bright
>>>> >> eyes such as a lemur
>>>> >
>>>> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
>>>> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work
>>>> on
>>>> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price
>>>> tag
>>>> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>>> >
>>>> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>>> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are
>>>> also
>>>> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > Max
>>>> >
>>>> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>>> bright
>>>> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
>>>> >> or an owl.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org
>>>> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>>>> >>     processing space, there is
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Kenn
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>>> >>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>>>> >>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>>> would
>>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are
>>>> all in
>>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>>> should
>>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What
>>>> do
>>>> >>                 you all think?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>>> >> because:
>>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>>> really
>>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the
>>>> other
>>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>>> would
>>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are
>>>> all in
>>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>>> should
>>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What
>>>> do
>>>> >>                 you all think?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>>> >> because:
>>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>>> really
>>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the
>>>> other
>>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Reza Rokni <re...@google.com>.
Salmon... they love streams? :-)

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 12:00, Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:

> Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
> not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
> stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
> would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
> so it seems OK as long as the art is different.
>
> Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of the
> only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
> suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
> big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
> significant than the taxonomy.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
>> the owl too [2].
>>
>> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as
>> long as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's
>> good to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I
>> looked up fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea
>> :/
>>
>> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
>> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
>> vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
>> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
>>> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
>>> thread and the existing logo material:
>>> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>>
>>> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
>>> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we
>>> want.]
>>>
>>> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>>> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>>> >
>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>> bright
>>> >> eyes such as a lemur
>>> >
>>> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
>>> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work
>>> on
>>> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price
>>> tag
>>> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>>> >
>>> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
>>> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also
>>> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Max
>>> >
>>> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing
>>> bright
>>> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
>>> >> or an owl.
>>> >>
>>> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org
>>> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>> >>
>>> >>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>>> >>     processing space, there is
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>> >>
>>> >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>>> >>
>>> >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>>> >>
>>> >>     Kenn
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>> >>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>>> >>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>> >>
>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>> >>
>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>> >>
>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>> would
>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all
>>> in
>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>> >>
>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>> should
>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What
>>> do
>>> >>                 you all think?
>>> >>
>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>> >> because:
>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>> really
>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>> >>
>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>>> dcavazos@google.com
>>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>> >>
>>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>>> >>
>>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I
>>> would
>>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all
>>> in
>>> >>                 agreement:)
>>> >>
>>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot
>>> should
>>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What
>>> do
>>> >>                 you all think?
>>> >>
>>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>>> >> because:
>>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>>> really
>>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>> >>
>>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>> >>                 discussions going.
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Thanks,
>>> >>                 Aizhamal
>>> >>
>>>
>>

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Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
Agree with Aizhamal that it doesn't matter if they are taken if they are
not too close in space to Beam: Apache projects, big data, log processing,
stream processing. Not a legal opinion, but an aesthetic opinion. So I
would keep Lemur as a possibility. Definitely nginx is far away from Beam
so it seems OK as long as the art is different.

Also FWIW there are many kinds of Lemurs, and also related Tarsier, of the
only uncontroversial and non-extinct infraorder within
suborder Strepsirrhini. I think there's enough room for another mascot with
big glowing eyes :-). The difference in the designer's art will be more
significant than the taxonomy.

Kenn

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:37 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
> the owl too [2].
>
> Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as long
> as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
> to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I looked up
> fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/
>
> And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
> >how do we arrive at a concrete design
> >once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
> My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
> vote on one here in the dev@ list.
>
> [1]
> https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
> [2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
>> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
>> thread and the existing logo material:
>> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>>
>> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
>> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we want.]
>>
>> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
>> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
>> >
>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
>> >> eyes such as a lemur
>> >
>> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
>> >
>> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
>> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on
>> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag
>> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
>> >
>> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
>> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also
>> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Max
>> >
>> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
>> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
>> >> or an owl.
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org
>> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>> >>
>> >>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>> >>     processing space, there is
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>> >>
>> >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>> >>
>> >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>> >>
>> >>     Kenn
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>> >>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>> >>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>> >>
>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>> dcavazos@google.com
>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>> >>
>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>
>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all
>> in
>> >>                 agreement:)
>> >>
>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>                 you all think?
>> >>
>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>> >> because:
>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>> really
>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>
>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>> >>                 discussions going.
>> >>
>> >>                 Thanks,
>> >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <
>> dcavazos@google.com
>> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>> >>
>> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>                 Hi everybody,
>> >>
>> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
>> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all
>> in
>> >>                 agreement:)
>> >>
>> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
>> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
>> >>                 you all think?
>> >>
>> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
>> >> because:
>> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a
>> really
>> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>> >>
>> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>> >>                 discussions going.
>> >>
>> >>                 Thanks,
>> >>                 Aizhamal
>> >>
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>.
Aww.. that Hoover beaver is cute. But then lemur is also "taken" [1] and
the owl too [2].

Personally, I don't think it matters much which mascots are taken, as long
as the project is not too close in the same space as Beam. Also, it's good
to just get all ideas out. We should still consider hedgehogs. I looked up
fireflies, they don't look nice, but i am not dismissing the idea :/

And thanks for reaching out to designers, Max. To your point:
>how do we arrive at a concrete design
>once we have consensus on the type of mascot?
My thinking is that the designer will come up with few sketches, then we
vote on one here in the dev@ list.

[1]
https://www.nginx.com/blog/introducing-the-lemur-stack-and-an-official-nginx-mascot/
[2] https://blog.readme.io/why-every-startup-needs-a-mascot/

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:31 AM Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:

> Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered
> to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this
> thread and the existing logo material:
> https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/
>
> [I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think
> having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we want.]
>
> On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> > How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
> >
> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
> >> eyes such as a lemur
> >
> > I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
> >
> > Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer
> > which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on
> > a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag
> > attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
> >
> > It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design
> > once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also
> > designers working at companies using Beam ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Max
> >
> > On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
> >> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright
> >> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1]
> >> or an owl.
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org
> >> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
> >>
> >>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
> >>     processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
> >>
> >>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
> >>
> >>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
> >>
> >>     Kenn
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
> >>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
> >>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
> >>
> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
> >>
> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>
> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
> >>                 agreement:)
> >>
> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
> >>                 you all think?
> >>
> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
> >> because:
> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>
> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
> >>                 discussions going.
> >>
> >>                 Thanks,
> >>                 Aizhamal
> >>
> >>
> >>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
> >>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
> >>
> >>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> >>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Hi everybody,
> >>
> >>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
> >>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
> >>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
> >>                 agreement:)
> >>
> >>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
> >>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
> >>                 you all think?
> >>
> >>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot,
> >> because:
> >>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
> >>                 2. The name is close to Beam
> >>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
> >>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> >>
> >>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
> >>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
> >>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
> >>                 discussions going.
> >>
> >>                 Thanks,
> >>                 Aizhamal
> >>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
Quick update: The mentioned designer has gotten back to me and offered 
to sketch something until the end of the week. I've pointed him to this 
thread and the existing logo material: 
https://beam.apache.org/community/logos/

[I don't want to interrupt the discussion in any way, I just think 
having something concrete will help us to eventually decide what we want.]

On 05.11.19 12:49, Maximilian Michels wrote:
> How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)
> 
>> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright 
>> eyes such as a lemur
> 
> I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.
> 
> Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer 
> which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on 
> a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag 
> attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.
> 
> It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design 
> once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also 
> designers working at companies using Beam ;)
> 
> Cheers,
> Max
> 
> On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
>> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright 
>> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1] 
>> or an owl.
>>
>> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org 
>> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>>
>>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>>     processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>>
>>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>>
>>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>>
>>     Kenn
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>
>>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>
>>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi everybody,
>>
>>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
>>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
>>                 agreement:)
>>
>>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
>>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
>>                 you all think?
>>
>>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, 
>> because:
>>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
>>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>
>>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>                 discussions going.
>>
>>                 Thanks,
>>                 Aizhamal
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>
>>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi everybody,
>>
>>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
>>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
>>                 agreement:)
>>
>>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
>>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
>>                 you all think?
>>
>>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, 
>> because:
>>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
>>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>
>>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>>                 discussions going.
>>
>>                 Thanks,
>>                 Aizhamal
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
How about fireflies in the Beam light rays? ;)

> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright eyes such as a lemur

I love the lemur idea because it has almost orange eyes.

Thanks for starting this Aizhamal! I've recently talked to a designer 
which is somewhat famous for creating logos. He was inclined to work on 
a software project logo. Of course there is a little bit of a price tag 
attached, though the quote sounded reasonable.

It raises the general question, how do we arrive at a concrete design 
once we have consensus on the type of mascot? I believe there are also 
designers working at companies using Beam ;)

Cheers,
Max

On 05.11.19 06:14, Eugene Kirpichov wrote:
> Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright 
> eyes (with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1] or 
> an owl.
> 
> [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html
> 
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <kenn@apache.org 
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Yes! Let's have a mascot!
> 
>     Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
>     processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
> 
>     I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
> 
>     Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
> 
>     Kenn
> 
> 
>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <robert@frantil.com
>     <ma...@frantil.com>> wrote:
> 
>         As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming
>         language with a rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
> 
>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
> 
>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>                 Hi everybody,
> 
>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
>                 agreement:)
> 
>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
>                 you all think?
> 
>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> 
>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>                 discussions going.
> 
>                 Thanks,
>                 Aizhamal
> 
> 
>         On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dcavazos@google.com
>         <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> 
>             I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
> 
>             On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>             <aizhamal@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>                 Hi everybody,
> 
>                 I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been
>                 brought up a couple times here in the past, but I would
>                 like us to go through with it this time if we are all in
>                 agreement:)
> 
>                 We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should
>                 be given Beam’s characteristics and principles. What do
>                 you all think?
> 
>                 For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>                 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>                 2. The name is close to Beam
>                 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really
>                 cute beaver :D https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
> 
>                 WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other
>                 options that you think could be appropriate? I would
>                 like to invite others to propose ideas and get the
>                 discussions going.
> 
>                 Thanks,
>                 Aizhamal
> 

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Eugene Kirpichov <jk...@google.com>.
Feels like "Beam" would go well with an animal that has glowing bright eyes
(with beams of light shooting out of them), such as a lemur [1] or an owl.

[1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/madagascar-lemurs/index.html

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:

> Yes! Let's have a mascot!
>
> Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log
> processing space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver
>
> I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.
>
> Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.
>
> Kenn
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <ro...@frantil.com> wrote:
>
>> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming language with a
>> rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>>>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>>>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>>>
>>>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>>>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>>>
>>>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>>>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>
>>>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>>>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>>>> and get the discussions going.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aizhamal
>>>>
>>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>>>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>>>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>>>
>>>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>>>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>>>
>>>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>>>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>>>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>>
>>>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>>>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>>>> and get the discussions going.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aizhamal
>>>>
>>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
Yes! Let's have a mascot!

Direct connections often have duplicates. For example in the log processing
space, there is https://www.linkedin.com/in/hooverbeaver

I like a flying squirrel, but Flink already is a squirrel.

Hedgehog? I could not find any source of confusion for this one.

Kenn


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:02 PM Robert Burke <ro...@frantil.com> wrote:

> As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming language with a
> rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>>
>>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>>
>>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>
>>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>>> and get the discussions going.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aizhamal
>>>
>>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizhamal@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>>
>>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>>
>>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>>
>>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>>> and get the discussions going.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aizhamal
>>>
>>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by Robert Burke <ro...@frantil.com>.
As both a Canadian, and the resident fan of a programming language with a
rodent mascot, I endorse this mascot.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:

> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>
>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>
>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>
>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>> and get the discussions going.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>>
>
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 4:11 PM David Cavazos <dc...@google.com> wrote:

> I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
>> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
>> if we are all in agreement:)
>>
>> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
>> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>>
>> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
>> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
>> 2. The name is close to Beam
>> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>>
>> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
>> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
>> and get the discussions going.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>>
>

Re: [Discuss] Beam mascot

Posted by David Cavazos <dc...@google.com>.
I like it, a beaver could be a cute mascot :)

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I think the idea of creating a Beam mascot has been brought up a couple
> times here in the past, but I would like us to go through with it this time
> if we are all in agreement:)
>
> We can brainstorm in this thread what the mascot should be given Beam’s
> characteristics and principles. What do you all think?
>
> For example, I am proposing a beaver as a mascot, because:
> 1. Beavers build dams out of logs for streams
> 2. The name is close to Beam
> 3. And with the right imagination, you can make a really cute beaver :D
> https://imgur.com/gallery/RLo05M9
>
> WDYT? If you don’t like the beaver, what are the other options that you
> think could be appropriate? I would like to invite others to propose ideas
> and get the discussions going.
>
> Thanks,
> Aizhamal
>