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Posted to dev@freemarker.apache.org by Daniel Dekany <dd...@freemail.hu> on 2015/09/28 00:10:08 UTC
Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
- I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
- You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
installation of the users.
*: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
--
Thanks,
Daniel Dekany
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by Daniel Dekany <dd...@freemail.hu>.
Just wanted to point out again that it would be a big help for
FreeMarker if someone helps out with the JBoss IDE. It's a good place
to contribute to, as it doesn't require deep FreeMarker knowledge.
The current open issues are:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
There are easy yet important ones like
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20491, where it's more about
taking the time to make the pull request, sign whatever need to be
signed at JBoss, look after if when it gets into a publicly available
build, etc. Some other issues are more challenging to fix, if someone
prefers that.
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Thanks,
Daniel Dekany
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Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>.
On 09/28/2015 12:10 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
>
> - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
> of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
> and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
>
> - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
> problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
> bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
> infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
> back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
> that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
> FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
> this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
> Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
> update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
> to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
> installation of the users.
>
> *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
> 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
> Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
> it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
> months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
> features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
> IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
> fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
> that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
> CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
> there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
> way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
> technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
>
I have asked my colleague Max who is responsible of the JBoss IDE and he
says:
+++
He could just post to jbosstools-dev and submit PRs and volunteer to
maintain it.
We have nightly builds he can use today - don't have to wait 12 months.
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
+++
I hope it helps
Cheers
Jean-Frederic
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by Daniel Dekany <dd...@freemail.hu>.
Sunday, April 10, 2016, 2:16:04 AM, Max Andersen wrote:
> I don't see the mail. What's the subject line ?
It's "[jbosstools-dev] Any way to make FreeMarker IDE fixes avilable
with less delay?".
> /max
>
>
> On 9 Apr 2016 23:33 +0200, Daniel Dekany <dd...@freemail.hu>, wrote:
> Thanks, I have brought this up on jbosstools-dev, and they have
> started reviewing/merging the PR, so all's good, for now. (Regarding
> if we can help avoiding this kind of problem somehow, there was no
> reaction.)
>
>
> Thursday, April 7, 2016, 12:14:02 PM, jean-frederic clere wrote:
>
> On 04/07/2016 10:46 AM, jean-frederic clere wrote:
> On 04/07/2016 01:32 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> I'm not sure what do you mean. The latest version is always here, but
> I can't tell users to build it themselves:
> https://github.com/ddekany/jbosstools-freemarker/tree/merged
>
> hm I think I will ask my jbosstools colleagues how to go forward. My
> understanding is that they pick eclispe stuff and later put it in the
> our IDE.
>
> Actually they would be quite happy to help, joining
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev asking there and
> following their instructions should be enough. We should get a commit
> and then nightly build of the plugins easily.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jean-Frederic
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Jean-Frederic
>
>
>
> Thursday, April 7, 2016, 1:24:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>
> What if you just push eclipse plugins and skip jboss ide?
> On Apr 6, 2016 19:22, "Daniel Dekany" <dd...@freemail.hu> wrote:
>
> Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
> FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
> (like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
>
> Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
> releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
> requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
> asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
> them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
> a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
> less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
>
>
> Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>
> So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
>
> - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
> of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
> and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
>
>
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
>
> - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
> problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
> bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
> infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
> back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
> that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
> FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
> this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
> Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
> update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
> to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
> installation of the users.
>
> *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
> 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
> Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
> it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
> months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
> features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
> IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
> fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
> that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
> CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
> there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
> way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
> technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Daniel Dekany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Daniel Dekany
>
--
Thanks,
Daniel Dekany
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by Max Andersen <ma...@redhat.com>.
I don't see the mail. What's the subject line ?
/max
On 9 Apr 2016 23:33 +0200, Daniel Dekany<dd...@freemail.hu>, wrote:
> Thanks, I have brought this up on jbosstools-dev, and they have
> started reviewing/merging the PR, so all's good, for now. (Regarding
> if we can help avoiding this kind of problem somehow, there was no
> reaction.)
>
>
> Thursday, April 7, 2016, 12:14:02 PM, jean-frederic clere wrote:
>
> > On 04/07/2016 10:46 AM, jean-frederic clere wrote:
> > > On 04/07/2016 01:32 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure what do you mean. The latest version is always here, but
> > > > I can't tell users to build it themselves:
> > > > https://github.com/ddekany/jbosstools-freemarker/tree/merged
> > >
> > > hm I think I will ask my jbosstools colleagues how to go forward. My
> > > understanding is that they pick eclispe stuff and later put it in the
> > > our IDE.
> >
> > Actually they would be quite happy to help, joining
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev asking there and
> > following their instructions should be enough. We should get a commit
> > and then nightly build of the plugins easily.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jean-Frederic
> >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Jean-Frederic
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thursday, April 7, 2016, 1:24:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What if you just push eclipse plugins and skip jboss ide?
> > > > > On Apr 6, 2016 19:22, "Daniel Dekany"<dd...@freemail.hu>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
> > > > > > FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
> > > > > > (like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
> > > > > > releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
> > > > > > requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
> > > > > > asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
> > > > > > them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
> > > > > > a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
> > > > > > less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
> > > > > > > of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
> > > > > > > and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
> > > > > > > problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
> > > > > > > bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
> > > > > > > infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
> > > > > > > back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
> > > > > > > that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
> > > > > > > FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
> > > > > > > this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
> > > > > > > Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
> > > > > > > update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
> > > > > > > to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
> > > > > > > installation of the users.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
> > > > > > > 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
> > > > > > > Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
> > > > > > > it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
> > > > > > > months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
> > > > > > > features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
> > > > > > > IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
> > > > > > > fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
> > > > > > > that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
> > > > > > > CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
> > > > > > > there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
> > > > > > > way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
> > > > > > > technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Daniel Dekany
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Daniel Dekany
>
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by Daniel Dekany <dd...@freemail.hu>.
Thanks, I have brought this up on jbosstools-dev, and they have
started reviewing/merging the PR, so all's good, for now. (Regarding
if we can help avoiding this kind of problem somehow, there was no
reaction.)
Thursday, April 7, 2016, 12:14:02 PM, jean-frederic clere wrote:
> On 04/07/2016 10:46 AM, jean-frederic clere wrote:
>> On 04/07/2016 01:32 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>> I'm not sure what do you mean. The latest version is always here, but
>>> I can't tell users to build it themselves:
>>> https://github.com/ddekany/jbosstools-freemarker/tree/merged
>>
>> hm I think I will ask my jbosstools colleagues how to go forward. My
>> understanding is that they pick eclispe stuff and later put it in the
>> our IDE.
>
> Actually they would be quite happy to help, joining
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev asking there and
> following their instructions should be enough. We should get a commit
> and then nightly build of the plugins easily.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jean-Frederic
>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jean-Frederic
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thursday, April 7, 2016, 1:24:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>>
>>>> What if you just push eclipse plugins and skip jboss ide?
>>>> On Apr 6, 2016 19:22, "Daniel Dekany" <dd...@freemail.hu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
>>>>> FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
>>>>> (like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
>>>>> releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
>>>>> requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
>>>>> asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
>>>>> them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
>>>>> a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
>>>>> less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
>>>>>> of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
>>>>>> and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
>>>>>> problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
>>>>>> bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
>>>>>> infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
>>>>>> back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
>>>>>> that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
>>>>>> FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
>>>>>> this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
>>>>>> Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
>>>>>> update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
>>>>>> to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
>>>>>> installation of the users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
>>>>>> 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
>>>>>> Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
>>>>>> it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
>>>>>> months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
>>>>>> features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
>>>>>> IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
>>>>>> fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
>>>>>> that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
>>>>>> CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
>>>>>> there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
>>>>>> way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
>>>>>> technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Daniel Dekany
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Thanks,
Daniel Dekany
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>.
On 04/07/2016 10:46 AM, jean-frederic clere wrote:
> On 04/07/2016 01:32 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>> I'm not sure what do you mean. The latest version is always here, but
>> I can't tell users to build it themselves:
>> https://github.com/ddekany/jbosstools-freemarker/tree/merged
>
> hm I think I will ask my jbosstools colleagues how to go forward. My
> understanding is that they pick eclispe stuff and later put it in the
> our IDE.
Actually they would be quite happy to help, joining
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev asking there and
following their instructions should be enough. We should get a commit
and then nightly build of the plugins easily.
Cheers
Jean-Frederic
>
> Cheers
>
> Jean-Frederic
>
>>
>>
>> Thursday, April 7, 2016, 1:24:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>
>>> What if you just push eclipse plugins and skip jboss ide?
>>> On Apr 6, 2016 19:22, "Daniel Dekany" <dd...@freemail.hu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
>>>> FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
>>>> (like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
>>>>
>>>> Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
>>>> releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
>>>> requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
>>>> asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
>>>> them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
>>>> a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
>>>> less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
>>>>>
>>>>> - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
>>>>> of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
>>>>> and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
>>>>>
>>>>> - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
>>>>> problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
>>>>> bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
>>>>> infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
>>>>> back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
>>>>> that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
>>>>> FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
>>>>> this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
>>>>> Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
>>>>> update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
>>>>> to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
>>>>> installation of the users.
>>>>>
>>>>> *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
>>>>> 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
>>>>> Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
>>>>> it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
>>>>> months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
>>>>> features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
>>>>> IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
>>>>> fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
>>>>> that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
>>>>> CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
>>>>> there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
>>>>> way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
>>>>> technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Daniel Dekany
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by jean-frederic clere <jf...@gmail.com>.
On 04/07/2016 01:32 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> I'm not sure what do you mean. The latest version is always here, but
> I can't tell users to build it themselves:
> https://github.com/ddekany/jbosstools-freemarker/tree/merged
hm I think I will ask my jbosstools colleagues how to go forward. My
understanding is that they pick eclispe stuff and later put it in the
our IDE.
Cheers
Jean-Frederic
>
>
> Thursday, April 7, 2016, 1:24:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>
>> What if you just push eclipse plugins and skip jboss ide?
>> On Apr 6, 2016 19:22, "Daniel Dekany" <dd...@freemail.hu> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
>>> FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
>>> (like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
>>>
>>> Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
>>> releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
>>> requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
>>> asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
>>> them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
>>> a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
>>> less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
>>>
>>>
>>> Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>>
>>>> So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
>>>>
>>>> - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
>>>> of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
>>>> and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
>>>>
>>>> - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
>>>> problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
>>>> bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
>>>> infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
>>>> back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
>>>> that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
>>>> FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
>>>> this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
>>>> Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
>>>> update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
>>>> to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
>>>> installation of the users.
>>>>
>>>> *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
>>>> 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
>>>> Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
>>>> it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
>>>> months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
>>>> features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
>>>> IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
>>>> fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
>>>> that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
>>>> CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
>>>> there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
>>>> way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
>>>> technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daniel Dekany
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by Daniel Dekany <dd...@freemail.hu>.
I'm not sure what do you mean. The latest version is always here, but
I can't tell users to build it themselves:
https://github.com/ddekany/jbosstools-freemarker/tree/merged
Thursday, April 7, 2016, 1:24:40 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> What if you just push eclipse plugins and skip jboss ide?
> On Apr 6, 2016 19:22, "Daniel Dekany" <dd...@freemail.hu> wrote:
>
>> Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
>> FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
>> (like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
>>
>> Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
>> releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
>> requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
>> asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
>> them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
>> a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
>> less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
>>
>>
>> Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>
>> > So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
>> >
>> > - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
>> > of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
>> > and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
>> >
>> >
>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
>> >
>> > - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
>> > problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
>> > bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
>> > infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
>> > back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
>> > that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
>> > FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
>> > this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
>> > Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
>> > update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
>> > to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
>> > installation of the users.
>> >
>> > *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
>> > 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
>> > Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
>> > it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
>> > months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
>> > features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
>> > IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
>> > fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
>> > that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
>> > CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
>> > there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
>> > way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
>> > technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel Dekany
>>
>>
--
Thanks,
Daniel Dekany
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
What if you just push eclipse plugins and skip jboss ide?
On Apr 6, 2016 19:22, "Daniel Dekany" <dd...@freemail.hu> wrote:
> Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
> FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
> (like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
>
> Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
> releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
> requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
> asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
> them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
> a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
> less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
>
>
> Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>
> > So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
> >
> > - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
> > of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
> > and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
> >
> >
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
> >
> > - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
> > problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
> > bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
> > infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
> > back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
> > that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
> > FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
> > this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
> > Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
> > update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
> > to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
> > installation of the users.
> >
> > *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
> > 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
> > Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
> > it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
> > months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
> > features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
> > IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
> > fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
> > that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
> > CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
> > there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
> > way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
> > technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
> >
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Daniel Dekany
>
>
Re: Someone wants to help with the JBoss IDE plugin?
Posted by Daniel Dekany <dd...@freemail.hu>.
Someone could still figure out if we can legally offer our own JBoss
FreeMarker IDE build for download, and how is it best to distribute
(like should we host our own update site somewhere?).
Why? As I have said earlier, FreeMarker IDE fixes get into JBoss IDE
releases with quite big delay. Like I have some 4 months old pull
requests, quite simple ones, but none of them is merged in yet. I have
asked about it, and was told that maybe they will find time reviewing
them for the JBoss IDE release for Eclipse Neon. I guess that will be
a few more months. So, we could release updates with a half a year
less delay or such, which is clearly significant.
Monday, September 28, 2015, 12:10:08 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> So it's on http://freemarker.org/contribute.html, but...
>
> - I just want to emphasize that it's quite important for the success
> of the project. People need to edit the templates with something,
> and efficiently. For you convenience, the pending Jira issues:
>
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20512?jql=project%20%3D%20JBIDE%20AND%20status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22Coding%20In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22Pull%20Request%20Sent%22%29%20AND%20component%20%3D%20freemarker
>
> - You can help even if you aren't into Eclipse plugin development! A
> problem is currently that the release of the plugin seems to be
> bound to the release of the JBoss Tools project which is very
> infrequent for our purpose. Maybe the fixes should just be
> back-ported into the previous JBoss Tools branch too solve that, and
> that's not done, but I really don't know. In any case, currently,
> FreeMarker IDE release cycles are way too slow [*]. A solution for
> this should be figured out, and discussed with the JBoss Tools guys.
> Like, just as an example, maybe we should set up our own plugin
> update site, and do the builds ourselves, but then legal issues has
> to be considered, and if that could interfere with the JBoss Tools
> installation of the users.
>
> *: For example, I have asked to increase the FreeMarker version in
> 2.3.23. And sure it was done in the repo quickly (thanks to Denis
> Golovin who has also squashed several FreeMarker IDE bugs), but
> it's scheduled for JBoss Tools 4.4.0. That, I guess, is about 12
> months away! Until that, FreeMarker IDE won't handle the new
> features of 2.3.23, which was released months ago. Or, FreeMarker
> IDE was pretty much unusably broken in 4.2.0. Months ago, it was
> fixed, and now its quite usable. Big difference. But for most user
> that will only become visible in 4.3.0, which is has only entered
> CR1 state not very long ago. Now, it all could be kind of OK, if
> there were JBoss IDE dependencies in FreeMarker IDE, or the other
> way around, but as far as I see there's pretty much none. So
> technically FreeMarker IDE could be released independently.
>
--
Thanks,
Daniel Dekany