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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Chris <cp...@embarqmail.com> on 2007/06/13 03:58:11 UTC

Embarq/Synacor's SA Setup

Before I put my foot in my mouth to my ISP, I'd like to make sure I'm right. 
From the headers below, what does Embarq/Synacor consider to be ALL_TRUSTED?


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Re: Embarq/Synacor's SA Setup

Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@verizon.net>.
Chris wrote:
> Before I put my foot in my mouth to my ISP, I'd like to make sure I'm right. 
> From the headers below, what does Embarq/Synacor consider to be ALL_TRUSTED?
>   
The default trust-path auto-guesser assumes that your MX has a public IP
address, not a private address. It *WILL* break if your MTA's have
private IPs and are static NAT-mapped to public IP's.

My guess is that the scanning machine resolves smtp.embarq.synacor.com 
as a private address, causing SA to assume that mxintern.schlund.de is
the MX for the local network, even though it is not.

Based on that assumption, what SA saw was simply a transfer between two
different local private networks attached to the same publicly addressed
MX that is a part of the local net.

This really underscores why it is critical for folks who have NATed
mailservers to explicitly declare a trusted_networks.

More details can be found at:

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath



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