DSL for Lanterna

[Maarten Boekhold <bo...@gmx.com>]

Hi all,

I wanted to experiment a bit with creating DSLs, so I decided to try to 
write a DSL for Lanterna: https://github.com/mabe02/lanterna. I know the 
Griffon team already has a DSL for that, but that can't be used 
standalone, so...

In case anybody is interested, I've posted my work sofar to 
https://github.com/boekhold/lanterna-terminal-builder. The single test 
case class should give a good overview of what it is current capable of.

Maarten

Re: DSL for Lanterna

[Jochen Theodorou <bl...@gmx.org>]

On 03.04.2016 09:24, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
> Hi Jochen,
>
> Thanks for taking a look. About that license stuff, I must admit that
> I'm quite ignorant about all that, which is why I haven't added a
> license file yet.
>
> I realize this isn't a groovy-related topic, but what would be a good
> license if I want to be as permissive as possible? And what exactly does
> it mean when you say "rules it out for any Apache software"? Does it
> mean that programs that use Lanterna cannot be released under an ASL
> license? Or just that they cannot be released under the name of the
> Apache Software Foundation?

Short answer:
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x and this is a thing 
of the foundation.

Longer answer:
It is no problem using Apache licensed software in (L)GPL software, but 
the other way around gets a bit more complicated. You can make your 
software apache licensed, but 
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-3.0#section4 point d) will still apply: 
You would have to distribute the source code together with the program 
and the ability to relink the program with a modified version of the 
library or use a shared library mechanism that allows the replacement. 
That's a restriction the Apache License does not impose, thus you cannot 
expect a larger work to use your library and assume apache terms apply 
to everything, thus the ASF rules that out.

bye Jochen

Re: DSL for Lanterna

[Maarten Boekhold <bo...@gmx.com>]

Hi Jochen,

Thanks for taking a look. About that license stuff, I must admit that 
I'm quite ignorant about all that, which is why I haven't added a 
license file yet.

I realize this isn't a groovy-related topic, but what would be a good 
license if I want to be as permissive as possible? And what exactly does 
it mean when you say "rules it out for any Apache software"? Does it 
mean that programs that use Lanterna cannot be released under an ASL 
license? Or just that they cannot be released under the name of the 
Apache Software Foundation?

Maarten

On 2016-04-03 09:37, Jochen Theodorou wrote:
> On 31.03.2016 09:52, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wanted to experiment a bit with creating DSLs, so I decided to try to
>> write a DSL for Lanterna: https://github.com/mabe02/lanterna. I know the
>> Griffon team already has a DSL for that, but that can't be used
>> standalone, so...
>>
>> In case anybody is interested, I've posted my work sofar to
>> https://github.com/boekhold/lanterna-terminal-builder. The single test
>> case class should give a good overview of what it is current capable of.
>
> too bad laterna is LGPL3, this pretty much rules it out for any Apache 
> software. Don´t forget to add a license file to your project too, if 
> you want others use it.
>
> the builder looks nice so far
>
> bye Jochen
>

Re: DSL for Lanterna

[Jochen Theodorou <bl...@gmx.org>]

On 31.03.2016 09:52, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to experiment a bit with creating DSLs, so I decided to try to
> write a DSL for Lanterna: https://github.com/mabe02/lanterna. I know the
> Griffon team already has a DSL for that, but that can't be used
> standalone, so...
>
> In case anybody is interested, I've posted my work sofar to
> https://github.com/boekhold/lanterna-terminal-builder. The single test
> case class should give a good overview of what it is current capable of.

too bad laterna is LGPL3, this pretty much rules it out for any Apache 
software. Don´t forget to add a license file to your project too, if you 
want others use it.

the builder looks nice so far

bye Jochen