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currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

All,

Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector

I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and 
"currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly, currentThreadCount 
would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and "currentThreadsBusy" 
apparently shows "busy" threads at that time. I am wondering if there is 
a "timeout" (or other config/parameter) for not busy threads (for long 
time) to be removed so currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.

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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Rallavagu,

On 10/31/16 4:02 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
> On 10/31/16 12:54 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>> On 31/10/2016 19:52, Rallavagu wrote:
>>> As per
>>> https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/executor.html
>>> it appears "maxIdleTime" could be what I am looking for. Is
>>> there a corresponding config parameter for internal thread
>>> pool?
>> 
>> Which part of "hard-coded" wasn't clear?
> 
> Well, I was not sure if is referred to "maxIdleTimeout" or not and
> I am not seeing thread count to diminish hence had to ask. So, I
> guess the recommendation is to use Executor instead?

Yes: use of an explicit <Executor> is recommended.

I was under the impression that a non-explicit <Executor> would never
retire threads, but I had (and still have) never checked the code. I
didn't realize that they would time-out after 60 seconds and be
evicted from the thread pool.

- -chris

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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Rallavagu <ra...@gmail.com>.

On 10/31/16 12:54 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 31/10/2016 19:52, Rallavagu wrote:
>> As per https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/executor.html it
>> appears "maxIdleTime" could be what I am looking for. Is there a
>> corresponding config parameter for internal thread pool?
>
> Which part of "hard-coded" wasn't clear?

Well, I was not sure if is referred to "maxIdleTimeout" or not and I am 
not seeing thread count to diminish hence had to ask. So, I guess the 
recommendation is to use Executor instead?

>
> Mark
>
>
>>
>> On 10/31/16 12:44 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> On 31/10/2016 19:38, Rallavagu wrote:
>>>> Here is the configuration snippet.
>>>>
>>>> <!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can define one or more
>>>> named thread pools-->
>>>>     <!--
>>>>     <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool" namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
>>>>         maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
>>>>     -->
>>>>
>>>> <Connector port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1" URIEncoding="UTF-8"
>>>>                maxThreads="500"
>>>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>>>     <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
>>>>     <!--
>>>>     <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
>>>>                port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>>>     -->
>>>>
>>>> As you can see, _not_ using executor. Thanks.
>>>
>>> When using the internal thread pool, that delay is hard-coded to 60s. If
>>> you want to configure it, use an Executor.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/31/16 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>>>> Rallavagu,
>>>>
>>>> On 10/31/16 1:59 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and
>>>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly,
>>>>>>> currentThreadCount would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and
>>>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy" apparently shows "busy" threads at that time.
>>>>>>> I am wondering if there is a "timeout" (or other config/parameter)
>>>>>>> for not busy threads (for long time) to be removed so
>>>>>>> currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Are you using an <Executor>? Perhaps you could post your <Connector>
>>>> and also <Executor> configuration if you are using one.
>>>>
>>>> -chris
>>>>>
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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 31/10/2016 19:52, Rallavagu wrote:
> As per https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/executor.html it
> appears "maxIdleTime" could be what I am looking for. Is there a
> corresponding config parameter for internal thread pool?

Which part of "hard-coded" wasn't clear?

Mark


> 
> On 10/31/16 12:44 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>> On 31/10/2016 19:38, Rallavagu wrote:
>>> Here is the configuration snippet.
>>>
>>> <!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can define one or more
>>> named thread pools-->
>>>     <!--
>>>     <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool" namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
>>>         maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
>>>     -->
>>>
>>> <Connector port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1" URIEncoding="UTF-8"
>>>                maxThreads="500"
>>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>>     <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
>>>     <!--
>>>     <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
>>>                port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>>     -->
>>>
>>> As you can see, _not_ using executor. Thanks.
>>
>> When using the internal thread pool, that delay is hard-coded to 60s. If
>> you want to configure it, use an Executor.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/16 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>>> Rallavagu,
>>>
>>> On 10/31/16 1:59 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and
>>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly,
>>>>>> currentThreadCount would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and
>>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy" apparently shows "busy" threads at that time.
>>>>>> I am wondering if there is a "timeout" (or other config/parameter)
>>>>>> for not busy threads (for long time) to be removed so
>>>>>> currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Are you using an <Executor>? Perhaps you could post your <Connector>
>>> and also <Executor> configuration if you are using one.
>>>
>>> -chris
>>>>
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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Rallavagu <ra...@gmail.com>.
As per https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/executor.html it 
appears "maxIdleTime" could be what I am looking for. Is there a 
corresponding config parameter for internal thread pool?

On 10/31/16 12:44 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 31/10/2016 19:38, Rallavagu wrote:
>> Here is the configuration snippet.
>>
>> <!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can define one or more
>> named thread pools-->
>>     <!--
>>     <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool" namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
>>         maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
>>     -->
>>
>> <Connector port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1" URIEncoding="UTF-8"
>>                maxThreads="500"
>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>     <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
>>     <!--
>>     <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
>>                port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>     -->
>>
>> As you can see, _not_ using executor. Thanks.
>
> When using the internal thread pool, that delay is hard-coded to 60s. If
> you want to configure it, use an Executor.
>
> Mark
>
>
>>
>> On 10/31/16 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>> Rallavagu,
>>
>> On 10/31/16 1:59 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and
>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly,
>>>>> currentThreadCount would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and
>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy" apparently shows "busy" threads at that time.
>>>>> I am wondering if there is a "timeout" (or other config/parameter)
>>>>> for not busy threads (for long time) to be removed so
>>>>> currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.
>>
>> Are you using an <Executor>? Perhaps you could post your <Connector>
>> and also <Executor> configuration if you are using one.
>>
>> -chris
>>>
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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Rallavagu <ra...@gmail.com>.

On 10/31/16 12:44 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 31/10/2016 19:38, Rallavagu wrote:
>> Here is the configuration snippet.
>>
>> <!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can define one or more
>> named thread pools-->
>>     <!--
>>     <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool" namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
>>         maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
>>     -->
>>
>> <Connector port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1" URIEncoding="UTF-8"
>>                maxThreads="500"
>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>     <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
>>     <!--
>>     <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
>>                port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>>                redirectPort="28443" />
>>     -->
>>
>> As you can see, _not_ using executor. Thanks.
>
> When using the internal thread pool, that delay is hard-coded to 60s. If
> you want to configure it, use an Executor.
>
> Mark
Thanks Mark. What I am noticing is that "currentThreadCount" remain same 
even after when there is not much of load.

>
>
>>
>> On 10/31/16 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>> Rallavagu,
>>
>> On 10/31/16 1:59 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and
>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly,
>>>>> currentThreadCount would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and
>>>>> "currentThreadsBusy" apparently shows "busy" threads at that time.
>>>>> I am wondering if there is a "timeout" (or other config/parameter)
>>>>> for not busy threads (for long time) to be removed so
>>>>> currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.
>>
>> Are you using an <Executor>? Perhaps you could post your <Connector>
>> and also <Executor> configuration if you are using one.
>>
>> -chris
>>>
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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 31/10/2016 19:38, Rallavagu wrote:
> Here is the configuration snippet.
> 
> <!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can define one or more
> named thread pools-->
>     <!--
>     <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool" namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
>         maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
>     -->
> 
> <Connector port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1" URIEncoding="UTF-8"
>                maxThreads="500"
>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>                redirectPort="28443" />
>     <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
>     <!--
>     <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
>                port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>                connectionTimeout="20000"
>                redirectPort="28443" />
>     -->
> 
> As you can see, _not_ using executor. Thanks.

When using the internal thread pool, that delay is hard-coded to 60s. If
you want to configure it, use an Executor.

Mark


> 
> On 10/31/16 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> Rallavagu,
> 
> On 10/31/16 1:59 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector
>>>>
>>>> I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and
>>>> "currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly,
>>>> currentThreadCount would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and
>>>> "currentThreadsBusy" apparently shows "busy" threads at that time.
>>>> I am wondering if there is a "timeout" (or other config/parameter)
>>>> for not busy threads (for long time) to be removed so
>>>> currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.
> 
> Are you using an <Executor>? Perhaps you could post your <Connector>
> and also <Executor> configuration if you are using one.
> 
> -chris
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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Rallavagu <ra...@gmail.com>.
Here is the configuration snippet.

<!--The connectors can use a shared executor, you can define one or more 
named thread pools-->
     <!--
     <Executor name="tomcatThreadPool" namePrefix="catalina-exec-"
         maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="4"/>
     -->

<Connector port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1" URIEncoding="UTF-8"
                maxThreads="500"
                connectionTimeout="20000"
                redirectPort="28443" />
     <!-- A "Connector" using the shared thread pool-->
     <!--
     <Connector executor="tomcatThreadPool"
                port="28080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
                connectionTimeout="20000"
                redirectPort="28443" />
     -->

As you can see, _not_ using executor. Thanks.

On 10/31/16 11:58 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> Rallavagu,
>
> On 10/31/16 1:59 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector
>>
>> I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and
>> "currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly,
>> currentThreadCount would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and
>> "currentThreadsBusy" apparently shows "busy" threads at that time.
>> I am wondering if there is a "timeout" (or other config/parameter)
>> for not busy threads (for long time) to be removed so
>> currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.
>
> Are you using an <Executor>? Perhaps you could post your <Connector>
> and also <Executor> configuration if you are using one.
>
> - -chris
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Re: currentThreadCount and currentThreadsBusy

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Rallavagu,

On 10/31/16 1:59 PM, Rallavagu wrote:
> All,
> 
> Tomcat 7.0.70 with bio connector
> 
> I have been monitoring JMX for "currentThreadCount" and 
> "currentThreadsBusy". If I understand correctly,
> currentThreadCount would not exceed "maxThreads" configuration and
> "currentThreadsBusy" apparently shows "busy" threads at that time.
> I am wondering if there is a "timeout" (or other config/parameter)
> for not busy threads (for long time) to be removed so
> currentThreadCount would be reduced. Thanks.

Are you using an <Executor>? Perhaps you could post your <Connector>
and also <Executor> configuration if you are using one.

- -chris
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