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Posted to dev@directory.apache.org by Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org> on 2007/01/17 14:07:01 UTC
Backwards compatibility (was: Re: Issue with multi valued attributes)
Since we made the change to LockableAttributesImpl etc in shared-ldap
this will now impact the store which has serialized objects.
The db for 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 are not compatible. You must export the DB
then reimport it to goto 1.0.1.
We can rollback this change in 1.0.x. There was no need to rename these
classes.
This is the reason why I say not to change the 1.0.x branch drastically
and only to fix bugs. Changing the name of a class in ldap-shared was
fine for 1.5.x but not for 1.0.x. In general don't get too enthusiastic
in the 1.0 branch.
Should we roll back this useless change that breaks backwards
compatibility between 1.0.1 and 1.0.0?
Regards,
Alex
Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> Well, good question ...
>
> There is no such option atm in the installer. It would be very cool if
> you could fill a JIRA about this problem, so we will be sure not to miss
> it when releasing 1.0.1.
>
> So far, what you can do is to backup your server.xml, and reinstall
> above the previous install (same directory). The data should not be
> deleted ( but do a backup to be safe). Then, restore the server.xml file.
>
> Emmanuel
>
> On 1/16/07, *Tony Thompson* <Tony.Thompson@stone-ware.com
> <ma...@stone-ware.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, thank you. I installed it and it is working great.
>
> That brings me to another question though. If I am running 1.0.0
> and I want to upgrade to 1.0.1, the installer seems to overwrite
> things like my server.xml config file, etc. How do I do the upgrade
> so it doesn't mess with my current configuration?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emmanuel Lecharny [mailto:elecharny@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:05 AM
> To: Apache Directory Developers List
> Subject: Re: Issue with multi valued attributes
>
> Emmanuel Lecharny a écrit :
>
> > Tony Thompson a écrit :
> >
> >> I am using Windows. If you could get an install together, that
> would
> >> be great.
> >>
> >>
> Thanks to Christine, the Windoze installer is now available here :
> http://people.apache.org/~elecharny/apacheds-1.0.1-SNAPSHOT-win32-setup.exe
>
> All other installer are also here :
> http://people.apache.org/~elecharny
>
> Emmanuel
>
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Re: Backwards compatibility (was: Re: Issue with multi valued attributes)
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
On 1/17/07, Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Since we made the change to LockableAttributesImpl etc in shared-ldap
> this will now impact the store which has serialized objects.
>
> The db for 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 are not compatible. You must export the DB
> then reimport it to goto 1.0.1.
>
> We can rollback this change in 1.0.x. There was no need to rename these
> classes.
>
> This is the reason why I say not to change the 1.0.x branch drastically
> and only to fix bugs. Changing the name of a class in ldap-shared was
> fine for 1.5.x but not for 1.0.x. In general don't get too enthusiastic
> in the 1.0 branch.
Well, I think we have had a quick discussion on this point, and as far I
remember, you didn't vetoed the rennaming. But you sghould have :)
I perfectly agree that i was not a good move to rename those classes in
1.0.x, even if it was a good idea in 1.5. We can rollback the modification
if needed (as 1.0.1 is not released yet, this could be a good timing).
However, I just wonder if the renaming will be the only problem that we will
have : the classes AttributesImpl and AttributeImpl not only have been
renamed, but they have been modified ( a new field has been added into
AttributesImpl), so the serialized classes won't be compatible anyway. That
is the bad news. We can get rid of this field if really needed (it's a flag
which is set if the attribute name are case sensitive : in Ldap all the
attributes name are case insensitive).
Such a modification isfeasible, and won't cost a lot (let's say 30 minutes,
tests included). So what do we do ?
Should we roll back this useless change that breaks backwards
> compatibility between 1.0.1 and 1.0.0?
I would vote +1, but it won't be a rollback, only a fix of the fix :
renaming back to the initial name, and removing the flag, forcing all the
attribute's name to be case insensitive.
It drive me to express another concern : what about the installer ?
Christine asked yesturday how we will manage to keep the files and
configuration of X.Y.(N-1) when upgrading to X.Y.N. We may also think about
a export/import process for data, or maybe simpler, a dump of all data just
to avoid any loss.
Damn... So much things we missed !
Regards,
> Alex
>
>
> Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> > Well, good question ...
> >
> > There is no such option atm in the installer. It would be very cool if
> > you could fill a JIRA about this problem, so we will be sure not to miss
> > it when releasing 1.0.1.
> >
> > So far, what you can do is to backup your server.xml, and reinstall
> > above the previous install (same directory). The data should not be
> > deleted ( but do a backup to be safe). Then, restore the server.xmlfile.
> >
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > On 1/16/07, *Tony Thompson* <Tony.Thompson@stone-ware.com
> > <ma...@stone-ware.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, thank you. I installed it and it is working great.
> >
> > That brings me to another question though. If I am running 1.0.0
> > and I want to upgrade to 1.0.1, the installer seems to overwrite
> > things like my server.xml config file, etc. How do I do the upgrade
> > so it doesn't mess with my current configuration?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Emmanuel Lecharny [mailto:elecharny@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:05 AM
> > To: Apache Directory Developers List
> > Subject: Re: Issue with multi valued attributes
> >
> > Emmanuel Lecharny a écrit :
> >
> > > Tony Thompson a écrit :
> > >
> > >> I am using Windows. If you could get an install together, that
> > would
> > >> be great.
> > >>
> > >>
> > Thanks to Christine, the Windoze installer is now available here :
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~elecharny/apacheds-1.0.1-SNAPSHOT-win32-setup.exe
> >
> > All other installer are also here :
> > http://people.apache.org/~elecharny
> >
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement,
> > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > www.iktek.com <http://www.iktek.com>
>
>
>
>
--
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com