Re: Tomcat & Apache no success,

[Joey Kovacs <jo...@hotmail.com>]

Why dont you use Tomcat 4.0 with Apache 2.0
IIS is not that good

Im having problems getting Apache to work with Tomcat.  AS in,,
are they supposed to both go on Port 80
and when ever I do a load module in the httpd.conf file
I get errors
Can anyone tell me the correct way to edit the Apache conf file
and tell it to find tomcat.
I have all nessacary files installed.


>From: "David Thielen" <da...@thielen.com>
>Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
>To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Subject: Tomcat & IIS - success
>Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:49:21 -0600
>
>Hi;
>
>Well if I had it to do over again I would have bought JRun - $895.00 but 2 
>hours instead of 4 days effort.
>
>For those still fighting getting Tomcat to run with IIS I suggest the 
>following:
>
>1) Reboot after any change of any kind in the configuration of Tomcat 
>stop/starting IIS is not enough for most things.
>
>2) Put all your jsp related pages under Tomcat. Don't try to put then in 
>Inetpub/wwwroot (still can't figure that one out).
>
>3) If you need jsp through a virtual web site, add the jakarta virtual 
>directory but do NOT add as a filter for that site.
>
>Thank you to all who helped me get this working.
>
>- dave




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Re: Tomcat v. Apache

[Joel Rees <jo...@alpsgiken.gr.jp>]

>  but I was wondering if
> you would kindly send me some guidance on using the various directives for the
> Apache Server?!

Just a thought, but have you read through the comments in httpd.conf? I
find they are easier to understand after having read through them once
or twice. (Kept falling asleep the first time I read through them, yes.)

Have you got a basic apache server running (without Tomcat)? I basically
did not have to touch my httpd.conf file the first time I brought apache
up. I found that playing (experimenting) with apache is the best way to
figure out the directives and the documentation.

Experimenting on a private network is a good idea. I. e., since you
won't want to mess with DNS the first time around, physically
disconnecting your lan or modem, start up your server(s) then access
them at http:localhost for apache and standalone tomcat, and
http://localhost:8080 for tomcat specific stuff when you have apache
front-ending it. If localhost doesn't work, try the loopback, at
http://127.0.0.1.

I usually just plan on giving myself private one-day seminars on these
things. Understanding those configuration files helps me not make
mistakes when I use point-and-click interfaces, too.

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Tomcat v. Apache

["Steve R. Burrus" <bu...@swbell.net>]

David, I just now read your "$0.02 worth" about a comparison between the Tomcat
Server and Apache, and you state that Tomcat is much more of a "headache", i.e.,
takes longer and more difficult to configure, to set up than IIS!!! Listen, I
apologize to you if I have asked you this question before, but I was wondering if
you would kindly send me some guidance on using the various directives for the
Apache Server?!
***********************************************************************************

David Thielen wrote:

> Hi all;
>
> I wasn't going to comment on this but since you asked.
>
> Yes, Apache is superior to IIS. It's faster and less likely to get hacked.
>
> On the flip side, IIS was under 2 hours to install and initially configure.
> And every time I need to do something in IIS it takes at most 15 minutes.
> It's a piece of cake to use. I can just use it rather than having to devote
> large amounts of time to administer it.
>
> Apache strikes me as being like Tomcat - it's a full-time job to install and
> configure it. Days to set it up and probably hours if I need to change
> anything. If it was my full time job, that's not a biggie and I get a very
> powerful system. But if I just want it working so I can get back to what I'm
> supposed to be doing - it's major.
>
> That's one of the reasons Microsoft server software does so well in the
> market - it's a lot easier to operate. Slower, less powerful, and easier to
> hack. But easier to install and configure.
>
> Anyways - my $0.02 worth.
>
> - dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joey Kovacs" <jo...@hotmail.com>
> To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Tomcat & Apache no success,
>
> > Why dont you use Tomcat 4.0 with Apache 2.0
> > IIS is not that good
> >
> > Im having problems getting Apache to work with Tomcat.  AS in,,
> > are they supposed to both go on Port 80
> > and when ever I do a load module in the httpd.conf file
> > I get errors
> > Can anyone tell me the correct way to edit the Apache conf file
> > and tell it to find tomcat.
> > I have all nessacary files installed.
> >
> >
> > >From: "David Thielen" <da...@thielen.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >Subject: Tomcat & IIS - success
> > >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:49:21 -0600
> > >
> > >Hi;
> > >
> > >Well if I had it to do over again I would have bought JRun - $895.00 but
> 2
> > >hours instead of 4 days effort.
> > >
> > >For those still fighting getting Tomcat to run with IIS I suggest the
> > >following:
> > >
> > >1) Reboot after any change of any kind in the configuration of Tomcat
> > >stop/starting IIS is not enough for most things.
> > >
> > >2) Put all your jsp related pages under Tomcat. Don't try to put then in
> > >Inetpub/wwwroot (still can't figure that one out).
> > >
> > >3) If you need jsp through a virtual web site, add the jakarta virtual
> > >directory but do NOT add as a filter for that site.
> > >
> > >Thank you to all who helped me get this working.
> > >
> > >- dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > j03b0x3r
> >
> >
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Re: Tomcat & Apache no success,

[David Thielen <da...@thielen.com>]

Hi all;

I wasn't going to comment on this but since you asked.

Yes, Apache is superior to IIS. It's faster and less likely to get hacked.

On the flip side, IIS was under 2 hours to install and initially configure.
And every time I need to do something in IIS it takes at most 15 minutes.
It's a piece of cake to use. I can just use it rather than having to devote
large amounts of time to administer it.

Apache strikes me as being like Tomcat - it's a full-time job to install and
configure it. Days to set it up and probably hours if I need to change
anything. If it was my full time job, that's not a biggie and I get a very
powerful system. But if I just want it working so I can get back to what I'm
supposed to be doing - it's major.

That's one of the reasons Microsoft server software does so well in the
market - it's a lot easier to operate. Slower, less powerful, and easier to
hack. But easier to install and configure.

Anyways - my $0.02 worth.

- dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joey Kovacs" <jo...@hotmail.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Tomcat & Apache no success,


> Why dont you use Tomcat 4.0 with Apache 2.0
> IIS is not that good
>
> Im having problems getting Apache to work with Tomcat.  AS in,,
> are they supposed to both go on Port 80
> and when ever I do a load module in the httpd.conf file
> I get errors
> Can anyone tell me the correct way to edit the Apache conf file
> and tell it to find tomcat.
> I have all nessacary files installed.
>
>
> >From: "David Thielen" <da...@thielen.com>
> >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Subject: Tomcat & IIS - success
> >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:49:21 -0600
> >
> >Hi;
> >
> >Well if I had it to do over again I would have bought JRun - $895.00 but
2
> >hours instead of 4 days effort.
> >
> >For those still fighting getting Tomcat to run with IIS I suggest the
> >following:
> >
> >1) Reboot after any change of any kind in the configuration of Tomcat
> >stop/starting IIS is not enough for most things.
> >
> >2) Put all your jsp related pages under Tomcat. Don't try to put then in
> >Inetpub/wwwroot (still can't figure that one out).
> >
> >3) If you need jsp through a virtual web site, add the jakarta virtual
> >directory but do NOT add as a filter for that site.
> >
> >Thank you to all who helped me get this working.
> >
> >- dave
>
>
>
>
> j03b0x3r
>
>
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Re: Tomcat & Apache no success,

[Joel Rees <jo...@alpsgiken.gr.jp>]

> Im having problems getting Apache to work with Tomcat.  AS in,,
> are they supposed to both go on Port 80

I don't think so. It seems to me like I remember something about putting
tomcat up at 8080 or so when having apache front-end the non-java stuff.

If you want to run tomcat standalone at port 80, I recall that it
should be possible, but probably not on the same machine as one already
running apache at port 80. (I think the point of conflict is the domain,
so if you set your machine to run virtual domains, that might work, but
I doubt it is what you want.)

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