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Posted to dev@beam.apache.org by Sachin Agarwal <sa...@google.com> on 2022/03/10 18:13:41 UTC

roadmap pages on beam website out of date

Hey friends,

I was talking to some folks and realized that the detailed roadmap pages
linked from https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/ are a bit outdated.  I was
wondering if folks had any ideas on how to make sure those roadmaps stay up
to date.  Or perhaps we remove the detailed pages to have fewer things to
review and we rely on the release blog posts and the standard
documentation, as those are updated regularly.

What do folks think?

Cheers,
Sachin

Re: roadmap pages on beam website out of date

Posted by Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com>.
+1 for keeping the things uptodate or removing. And +1 to a regular thread
for keeping the page up-to-date. Even if there is nothing else to
change/add/remove, adding a last reviewed date at the top of the page would
increase the confidence on the roadmap.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:58 AM Robert Burke <ro...@frantil.com> wrote:

> +1 for updating.
>
> I have an update to the Go roadmap coming soon.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 11:41 AM Ankur Goenka <go...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 for keeping the things uptodate or removing.
>> I think utilizing Jira for the roadmap might be easier to maintain and
>> will mostly remain upto date. With possibly linking high level jiras in the
>> roadmap page for easier discovery.
>> Also, Jiras will give us a chance to collect feedback on the roadmap and
>> track progress.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:29 AM Alexey Romanenko <
>> aromanenko.dev@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps, it would take sense to start a thread here once per some period
>>> of time and ask for updates on the topics, mentioned there.
>>>
>>> This page can be valuable for users but, of course, only if it’s
>>> up-to-date.
>>>
>>> —
>>> Alexey
>>>
>>> > On 14 Mar 2022, at 18:08, Brian Hulette <bh...@google.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > +1 for either defining some process to keep these pages fresh or
>>> > removing them entirely.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Probably a quarterly, or even annual, pass would go pretty far here.
>>> Unless we have something new to add there, I wouldn't be opposed to
>>> removing that page now as I don't know that it has much value at this point.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Sachin Agarwal <sa...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hey friends,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I was talking to some folks and realized that the detailed roadmap
>>> pages linked from https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/ are a bit outdated.
>>> I was wondering if folks had any ideas on how to make sure those roadmaps
>>> stay up to date.  Or perhaps we remove the detailed pages to have fewer
>>> things to review and we rely on the release blog posts and the standard
>>> documentation, as those are updated regularly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What do folks think?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Sachin
>>>
>>>

Re: roadmap pages on beam website out of date

Posted by Robert Burke <ro...@frantil.com>.
+1 for updating.

I have an update to the Go roadmap coming soon.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 11:41 AM Ankur Goenka <go...@google.com> wrote:

> +1 for keeping the things uptodate or removing.
> I think utilizing Jira for the roadmap might be easier to maintain and
> will mostly remain upto date. With possibly linking high level jiras in the
> roadmap page for easier discovery.
> Also, Jiras will give us a chance to collect feedback on the roadmap and
> track progress.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:29 AM Alexey Romanenko <
> aromanenko.dev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps, it would take sense to start a thread here once per some period
>> of time and ask for updates on the topics, mentioned there.
>>
>> This page can be valuable for users but, of course, only if it’s
>> up-to-date.
>>
>> —
>> Alexey
>>
>> > On 14 Mar 2022, at 18:08, Brian Hulette <bh...@google.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > +1 for either defining some process to keep these pages fresh or
>> > removing them entirely.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Probably a quarterly, or even annual, pass would go pretty far here.
>> Unless we have something new to add there, I wouldn't be opposed to
>> removing that page now as I don't know that it has much value at this point.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Sachin Agarwal <sa...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey friends,
>> >>>
>> >>> I was talking to some folks and realized that the detailed roadmap
>> pages linked from https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/ are a bit outdated.
>> I was wondering if folks had any ideas on how to make sure those roadmaps
>> stay up to date.  Or perhaps we remove the detailed pages to have fewer
>> things to review and we rely on the release blog posts and the standard
>> documentation, as those are updated regularly.
>> >>>
>> >>> What do folks think?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Sachin
>>
>>

Re: roadmap pages on beam website out of date

Posted by Ankur Goenka <go...@google.com>.
+1 for keeping the things uptodate or removing.
I think utilizing Jira for the roadmap might be easier to maintain and will
mostly remain upto date. With possibly linking high level jiras in the
roadmap page for easier discovery.
Also, Jiras will give us a chance to collect feedback on the roadmap and
track progress.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:29 AM Alexey Romanenko <ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Perhaps, it would take sense to start a thread here once per some period
> of time and ask for updates on the topics, mentioned there.
>
> This page can be valuable for users but, of course, only if it’s
> up-to-date.
>
> —
> Alexey
>
> > On 14 Mar 2022, at 18:08, Brian Hulette <bh...@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 for either defining some process to keep these pages fresh or
> > removing them entirely.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Probably a quarterly, or even annual, pass would go pretty far here.
> Unless we have something new to add there, I wouldn't be opposed to
> removing that page now as I don't know that it has much value at this point.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Sachin Agarwal <sa...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey friends,
> >>>
> >>> I was talking to some folks and realized that the detailed roadmap
> pages linked from https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/ are a bit outdated.  I
> was wondering if folks had any ideas on how to make sure those roadmaps
> stay up to date.  Or perhaps we remove the detailed pages to have fewer
> things to review and we rely on the release blog posts and the standard
> documentation, as those are updated regularly.
> >>>
> >>> What do folks think?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Sachin
>
>

Re: roadmap pages on beam website out of date

Posted by Alexey Romanenko <ar...@gmail.com>.
Perhaps, it would take sense to start a thread here once per some period of time and ask for updates on the topics, mentioned there. 

This page can be valuable for users but, of course, only if it’s up-to-date.

—
Alexey 

> On 14 Mar 2022, at 18:08, Brian Hulette <bh...@google.com> wrote:
> 
> +1 for either defining some process to keep these pages fresh or
> removing them entirely.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Probably a quarterly, or even annual, pass would go pretty far here. Unless we have something new to add there, I wouldn't be opposed to removing that page now as I don't know that it has much value at this point.
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Sachin Agarwal <sa...@google.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey friends,
>>> 
>>> I was talking to some folks and realized that the detailed roadmap pages linked from https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/ are a bit outdated.  I was wondering if folks had any ideas on how to make sure those roadmaps stay up to date.  Or perhaps we remove the detailed pages to have fewer things to review and we rely on the release blog posts and the standard documentation, as those are updated regularly.
>>> 
>>> What do folks think?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sachin


Re: roadmap pages on beam website out of date

Posted by Brian Hulette <bh...@google.com>.
+1 for either defining some process to keep these pages fresh or
removing them entirely.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Probably a quarterly, or even annual, pass would go pretty far here. Unless we have something new to add there, I wouldn't be opposed to removing that page now as I don't know that it has much value at this point.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Sachin Agarwal <sa...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey friends,
>>
>> I was talking to some folks and realized that the detailed roadmap pages linked from https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/ are a bit outdated.  I was wondering if folks had any ideas on how to make sure those roadmaps stay up to date.  Or perhaps we remove the detailed pages to have fewer things to review and we rely on the release blog posts and the standard documentation, as those are updated regularly.
>>
>> What do folks think?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sachin

Re: roadmap pages on beam website out of date

Posted by Robert Bradshaw <ro...@google.com>.
Probably a quarterly, or even annual, pass would go pretty far here. Unless
we have something new to add there, I wouldn't be opposed to removing that
page now as I don't know that it has much value at this point.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Sachin Agarwal <sa...@google.com> wrote:

> Hey friends,
>
> I was talking to some folks and realized that the detailed roadmap pages
> linked from https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/ are a bit outdated.  I was
> wondering if folks had any ideas on how to make sure those roadmaps stay up
> to date.  Or perhaps we remove the detailed pages to have fewer things to
> review and we rely on the release blog posts and the standard
> documentation, as those are updated regularly.
>
> What do folks think?
>
> Cheers,
> Sachin
>