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Posted to dev@couchdb.apache.org by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> on 2014/02/02 15:22:42 UTC
[NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
We have a new wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> We have a new wiki:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>
> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>
> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>
>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my todo list
>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on the
>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jan
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi folks,
>>>> >
>>>> > We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>> >
>>>> > However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki for
>>>> > now:
>>>> >
>>>> > * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>> > * Merge procedure
>>>> > * Release procedure
>>>> > * Release preparation
>>>> > * Test procedure
>>>> > * Committer election process
>>>> > * PMC election process
>>>> > * Community guide
>>>> > * Roadmap process
>>>> > * Board reports
>>>> > * Board report guide
>>>> > * Code of conduct
>>>> > * PMC charter
>>>> > * By-laws
>>>> > * Marketing guide
>>>> > * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>> >
>>>> > Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in working
>>>> > on.
>>>> > Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the homepage,
>>>> > doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta tell you:
>>>> > it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change about
>>>> > 20
>>>> > seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this email, and
>>>> > the page is still loading.
>>>> >
>>>> > I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki recently,
>>>> > but
>>>> > it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna get
>>>> > any
>>>> > better.
>>>> >
>>>> > For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm not
>>>> > sure
>>>> > how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
>>>> >
>>>> > Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in Moin, that
>>>> > we
>>>> > don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just
>>>> > wouldn't
>>>> > move it over.)
>>>> >
>>>> > If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the
>>>> > proposed
>>>> > move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is
>>>> > causing
>>>> > me a lot of problems.
>>>> >
>>>> > (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps
>>>> > someone
>>>> > else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Noah Slater
>>>> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater
>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
The new wiki [1] is setup (thanks Noah) and there are actually three
admins: Noah., Alex and me. We are recently discussing a first structure
[2] and are implementing it soon.
If you want to help or write to the new wiki, please get in touch with one
of the above mentioned persons.
There are already newer threads so I suggest to close this one.
Cheers
Andy
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
[2] http://piratepad.net/n0pfiqDD9W
On 6 February 2014 22:13, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
> I filed a Infra Jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7277
>
>
>
>
> On 6 February 2014 17:11, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Oh, I actually don't know. Perhaps ask in #asfinfra. If they need
>> authorization, ping me.
>>
>> On 6 February 2014 09:01, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>> > On 6 February 2014 05:08, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I had planned to start slowly migrate the content from the old wiki,
>> >> but it seems I cannot edit or create new pages in new one. Do I need
>> >> to be added into some wiki group with write permissions?
>> >> --
>> >> ,,,^..^,,,
>> >
>> >
>> > I have asked that already so maybe it's a good idea to wait until Noah
>> is
>> > giving some advice how we do the migration process ...
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andy Wenk
>> > Hamburg - Germany
>> > RockIt!
>> >
>> > http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>> > http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>> >
>> > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>> >
>> > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
>
> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>
--
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!
http://www.couchdb-buch.de
http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
I filed a Infra Jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7277
On 6 February 2014 17:11, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Oh, I actually don't know. Perhaps ask in #asfinfra. If they need
> authorization, ping me.
>
> On 6 February 2014 09:01, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
> > On 6 February 2014 05:08, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I had planned to start slowly migrate the content from the old wiki,
> >> but it seems I cannot edit or create new pages in new one. Do I need
> >> to be added into some wiki group with write permissions?
> >> --
> >> ,,,^..^,,,
> >
> >
> > I have asked that already so maybe it's a good idea to wait until Noah is
> > giving some advice how we do the migration process ...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > --
> > Andy Wenk
> > Hamburg - Germany
> > RockIt!
> >
> > http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> > http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
> >
> > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >
> > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
>
--
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!
http://www.couchdb-buch.de
http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Oh, I actually don't know. Perhaps ask in #asfinfra. If they need
authorization, ping me.
On 6 February 2014 09:01, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
> On 6 February 2014 05:08, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had planned to start slowly migrate the content from the old wiki,
>> but it seems I cannot edit or create new pages in new one. Do I need
>> to be added into some wiki group with write permissions?
>> --
>> ,,,^..^,,,
>
>
> I have asked that already so maybe it's a good idea to wait until Noah is
> giving some advice how we do the migration process ...
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
> --
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
>
> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
On 6 February 2014 05:08, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had planned to start slowly migrate the content from the old wiki,
> but it seems I cannot edit or create new pages in new one. Do I need
> to be added into some wiki group with write permissions?
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
>
I have asked that already so maybe it's a good idea to wait until Noah is
giving some advice how we do the migration process ...
Cheers
Andy
--
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!
http://www.couchdb-buch.de
http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com>.
I had planned to start slowly migrate the content from the old wiki,
but it seems I cannot edit or create new pages in new one. Do I need
to be added into some wiki group with write permissions?
--
,,,^..^,,,
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> We have a new wiki:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>
> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>
> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
>
> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>> We have a new wiki:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>
>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>
>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>>
>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my todo list
>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on the
>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jan
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi folks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki for
>>>>> > now:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>>> > * Merge procedure
>>>>> > * Release procedure
>>>>> > * Release preparation
>>>>> > * Test procedure
>>>>> > * Committer election process
>>>>> > * PMC election process
>>>>> > * Community guide
>>>>> > * Roadmap process
>>>>> > * Board reports
>>>>> > * Board report guide
>>>>> > * Code of conduct
>>>>> > * PMC charter
>>>>> > * By-laws
>>>>> > * Marketing guide
>>>>> > * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in working
>>>>> > on.
>>>>> > Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the homepage,
>>>>> > doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta tell you:
>>>>> > it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change about
>>>>> > 20
>>>>> > seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this email, and
>>>>> > the page is still loading.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki recently,
>>>>> > but
>>>>> > it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna get
>>>>> > any
>>>>> > better.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm not
>>>>> > sure
>>>>> > how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in Moin, that
>>>>> > we
>>>>> > don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just
>>>>> > wouldn't
>>>>> > move it over.)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the
>>>>> > proposed
>>>>> > move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is
>>>>> > causing
>>>>> > me a lot of problems.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps
>>>>> > someone
>>>>> > else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Noah Slater
>>>>> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater
>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org>.
On 03 Feb 2014, at 9:55 AM, Benoit Chesneau <bc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This is great. Is it possible to create a nice url like wiki.couchdb.comfor it?
>>
>>
> .org rather ;) +1
Correct, thanks :)
>
>
>
>>
>> On 02 Feb 2014, at 10:04 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Super cool! Do you want us to do anything right now? As I understood you
>>> will get in touch with people to ask them if they move contents to the
>> new
>>> wiki. Is that correct?
>>>
>>> Shall we create an account already?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 February 2014 16:03, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I don't think we should migrate it in bulk.
>>>>
>>>> As you point out, there are some judgement calls to be made.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps pages that obviously belong in the docs could be exported
>>>> somehow, or moved to a "should be in the docs" ghetto. Meanwhile,
>>>> anything obviously belonging on the wiki can be moved over verbatim
>>>> for the time being.
>>>>
>>>> I plan to "blank" pages as I go. Replacing them with a single
>>>> instruction to either visit the new page on the new wiki, or to
>>>> consult the docs.
>>>>
>>>> On 2 February 2014 15:58, Robert Samuel Newson <rn...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Cool!
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take
>>>> what's good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have
>>>> docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should
>> live,
>>>> the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools,
>>>> guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques,
>> details
>>>> of internals, and so on).
>>>>>
>>>>> B.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
>>>>>> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my
>> todo
>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> now:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>>>>>>>>> * Merge procedure
>>>>>>>>>>> * Release procedure
>>>>>>>>>>> * Release preparation
>>>>>>>>>>> * Test procedure
>>>>>>>>>>> * Committer election process
>>>>>>>>>>> * PMC election process
>>>>>>>>>>> * Community guide
>>>>>>>>>>> * Roadmap process
>>>>>>>>>>> * Board reports
>>>>>>>>>>> * Board report guide
>>>>>>>>>>> * Code of conduct
>>>>>>>>>>> * PMC charter
>>>>>>>>>>> * By-laws
>>>>>>>>>>> * Marketing guide
>>>>>>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in
>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the
>>>> homepage,
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta
>>>> tell you:
>>>>>>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change
>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this
>>>> email, and
>>>>>>>>>>> the page is still loading.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki
>>>> recently,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna
>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in
>>>> Moin, that
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We
>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> move it over.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it
>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> causing
>>>>>>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate.
>> Perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andy Wenk
>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>> RockIt!
>>>
>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>>
>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>
>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>
>>
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Benoit Chesneau <bc...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is great. Is it possible to create a nice url like wiki.couchdb.comfor it?
>
>
.org rather ;) +1
>
> On 02 Feb 2014, at 10:04 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>
> > Super cool! Do you want us to do anything right now? As I understood you
> > will get in touch with people to ask them if they move contents to the
> new
> > wiki. Is that correct?
> >
> > Shall we create an account already?
> >
> >
> > On 2 February 2014 16:03, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I don't think we should migrate it in bulk.
> >>
> >> As you point out, there are some judgement calls to be made.
> >>
> >> Perhaps pages that obviously belong in the docs could be exported
> >> somehow, or moved to a "should be in the docs" ghetto. Meanwhile,
> >> anything obviously belonging on the wiki can be moved over verbatim
> >> for the time being.
> >>
> >> I plan to "blank" pages as I go. Replacing them with a single
> >> instruction to either visit the new page on the new wiki, or to
> >> consult the docs.
> >>
> >> On 2 February 2014 15:58, Robert Samuel Newson <rn...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>> Cool!
> >>>
> >>> Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take
> >> what's good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have
> >> docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should
> live,
> >> the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools,
> >> guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques,
> details
> >> of internals, and so on).
> >>>
> >>> B.
> >>>
> >>> On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We have a new wiki:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
> >>>>
> >>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
> >>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
> >>>> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>> We have a new wiki:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
> >>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my
> todo
> >> list
> >>>>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on
> >> the
> >>>>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki
> >> for
> >>>>>>>>> now:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
> >>>>>>>>> * Merge procedure
> >>>>>>>>> * Release procedure
> >>>>>>>>> * Release preparation
> >>>>>>>>> * Test procedure
> >>>>>>>>> * Committer election process
> >>>>>>>>> * PMC election process
> >>>>>>>>> * Community guide
> >>>>>>>>> * Roadmap process
> >>>>>>>>> * Board reports
> >>>>>>>>> * Board report guide
> >>>>>>>>> * Code of conduct
> >>>>>>>>> * PMC charter
> >>>>>>>>> * By-laws
> >>>>>>>>> * Marketing guide
> >>>>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in
> >> working
> >>>>>>>>> on.
> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the
> >> homepage,
> >>>>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta
> >> tell you:
> >>>>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change
> >> about
> >>>>>>>>> 20
> >>>>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this
> >> email, and
> >>>>>>>>> the page is still loading.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki
> >> recently,
> >>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna
> >> get
> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>> better.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm
> >> not
> >>>>>>>>> sure
> >>>>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in
> >> Moin, that
> >>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We
> just
> >>>>>>>>> wouldn't
> >>>>>>>>> move it over.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind
> the
> >>>>>>>>> proposed
> >>>>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it
> is
> >>>>>>>>> causing
> >>>>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate.
> Perhaps
> >>>>>>>>> someone
> >>>>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
> >>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Noah Slater
> >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Noah Slater
> >>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Noah Slater
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Noah Slater
> >>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noah Slater
> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy Wenk
> > Hamburg - Germany
> > RockIt!
> >
> > http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> > http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
> >
> > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >
> > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>
>
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
You could ask Infra about the URL!
On 3 February 2014 08:08, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is great. Is it possible to create a nice url like wiki.couchdb.com for it?
>
>
> On 02 Feb 2014, at 10:04 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>
>> Super cool! Do you want us to do anything right now? As I understood you
>> will get in touch with people to ask them if they move contents to the new
>> wiki. Is that correct?
>>
>> Shall we create an account already?
>>
>>
>> On 2 February 2014 16:03, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I don't think we should migrate it in bulk.
>>>
>>> As you point out, there are some judgement calls to be made.
>>>
>>> Perhaps pages that obviously belong in the docs could be exported
>>> somehow, or moved to a "should be in the docs" ghetto. Meanwhile,
>>> anything obviously belonging on the wiki can be moved over verbatim
>>> for the time being.
>>>
>>> I plan to "blank" pages as I go. Replacing them with a single
>>> instruction to either visit the new page on the new wiki, or to
>>> consult the docs.
>>>
>>> On 2 February 2014 15:58, Robert Samuel Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Cool!
>>>>
>>>> Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take
>>> what's good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have
>>> docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should live,
>>> the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools,
>>> guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques, details
>>> of internals, and so on).
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>> On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>>>
>>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
>>>>> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my todo
>>> list
>>>>>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki
>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> now:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>>>>>>>> * Merge procedure
>>>>>>>>>> * Release procedure
>>>>>>>>>> * Release preparation
>>>>>>>>>> * Test procedure
>>>>>>>>>> * Committer election process
>>>>>>>>>> * PMC election process
>>>>>>>>>> * Community guide
>>>>>>>>>> * Roadmap process
>>>>>>>>>> * Board reports
>>>>>>>>>> * Board report guide
>>>>>>>>>> * Code of conduct
>>>>>>>>>> * PMC charter
>>>>>>>>>> * By-laws
>>>>>>>>>> * Marketing guide
>>>>>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in
>>> working
>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the
>>> homepage,
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta
>>> tell you:
>>>>>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change
>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this
>>> email, and
>>>>>>>>>> the page is still loading.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki
>>> recently,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna
>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm
>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in
>>> Moin, that
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> move it over.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the
>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is
>>>>>>>>>> causing
>>>>>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps
>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater
>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andy Wenk
>> Hamburg - Germany
>> RockIt!
>>
>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>
>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>
>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org>.
This is great. Is it possible to create a nice url like wiki.couchdb.com for it?
On 02 Feb 2014, at 10:04 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
> Super cool! Do you want us to do anything right now? As I understood you
> will get in touch with people to ask them if they move contents to the new
> wiki. Is that correct?
>
> Shall we create an account already?
>
>
> On 2 February 2014 16:03, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, I don't think we should migrate it in bulk.
>>
>> As you point out, there are some judgement calls to be made.
>>
>> Perhaps pages that obviously belong in the docs could be exported
>> somehow, or moved to a "should be in the docs" ghetto. Meanwhile,
>> anything obviously belonging on the wiki can be moved over verbatim
>> for the time being.
>>
>> I plan to "blank" pages as I go. Replacing them with a single
>> instruction to either visit the new page on the new wiki, or to
>> consult the docs.
>>
>> On 2 February 2014 15:58, Robert Samuel Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Cool!
>>>
>>> Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take
>> what's good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have
>> docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should live,
>> the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools,
>> guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques, details
>> of internals, and so on).
>>>
>>> B.
>>>
>>> On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>>
>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>>
>>>> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
>>>> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
>>>>
>>>> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>>>
>>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my todo
>> list
>>>>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on
>> the
>>>>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki
>> for
>>>>>>>>> now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>>>>>>> * Merge procedure
>>>>>>>>> * Release procedure
>>>>>>>>> * Release preparation
>>>>>>>>> * Test procedure
>>>>>>>>> * Committer election process
>>>>>>>>> * PMC election process
>>>>>>>>> * Community guide
>>>>>>>>> * Roadmap process
>>>>>>>>> * Board reports
>>>>>>>>> * Board report guide
>>>>>>>>> * Code of conduct
>>>>>>>>> * PMC charter
>>>>>>>>> * By-laws
>>>>>>>>> * Marketing guide
>>>>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in
>> working
>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the
>> homepage,
>>>>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta
>> tell you:
>>>>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change
>> about
>>>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this
>> email, and
>>>>>>>>> the page is still loading.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki
>> recently,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna
>> get
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm
>> not
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in
>> Moin, that
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> move it over.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the
>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is
>>>>>>>>> causing
>>>>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
>
> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
Super cool! Do you want us to do anything right now? As I understood you
will get in touch with people to ask them if they move contents to the new
wiki. Is that correct?
Shall we create an account already?
On 2 February 2014 16:03, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Well, I don't think we should migrate it in bulk.
>
> As you point out, there are some judgement calls to be made.
>
> Perhaps pages that obviously belong in the docs could be exported
> somehow, or moved to a "should be in the docs" ghetto. Meanwhile,
> anything obviously belonging on the wiki can be moved over verbatim
> for the time being.
>
> I plan to "blank" pages as I go. Replacing them with a single
> instruction to either visit the new page on the new wiki, or to
> consult the docs.
>
> On 2 February 2014 15:58, Robert Samuel Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Cool!
> >
> > Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take
> what's good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have
> docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should live,
> the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools,
> guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques, details
> of internals, and so on).
> >
> > B.
> >
> > On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> We have a new wiki:
> >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
> >>
> >> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
> >> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
> >>
> >> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
> >> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
> >>
> >> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> We have a new wiki:
> >>>
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
> >>>
> >>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
> >>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
> >>>
> >>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my todo
> list
> >>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on
> the
> >>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki
> for
> >>>>>>> now:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
> >>>>>>> * Merge procedure
> >>>>>>> * Release procedure
> >>>>>>> * Release preparation
> >>>>>>> * Test procedure
> >>>>>>> * Committer election process
> >>>>>>> * PMC election process
> >>>>>>> * Community guide
> >>>>>>> * Roadmap process
> >>>>>>> * Board reports
> >>>>>>> * Board report guide
> >>>>>>> * Code of conduct
> >>>>>>> * PMC charter
> >>>>>>> * By-laws
> >>>>>>> * Marketing guide
> >>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in
> working
> >>>>>>> on.
> >>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the
> homepage,
> >>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta
> tell you:
> >>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change
> about
> >>>>>>> 20
> >>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this
> email, and
> >>>>>>> the page is still loading.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki
> recently,
> >>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna
> get
> >>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>> better.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm
> not
> >>>>>>> sure
> >>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in
> Moin, that
> >>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just
> >>>>>>> wouldn't
> >>>>>>> move it over.)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the
> >>>>>>> proposed
> >>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is
> >>>>>>> causing
> >>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps
> >>>>>>> someone
> >>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Noah Slater
> >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Noah Slater
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Noah Slater
> >>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Noah Slater
> >>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noah Slater
> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
>
--
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!
http://www.couchdb-buch.de
http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Well, I don't think we should migrate it in bulk.
As you point out, there are some judgement calls to be made.
Perhaps pages that obviously belong in the docs could be exported
somehow, or moved to a "should be in the docs" ghetto. Meanwhile,
anything obviously belonging on the wiki can be moved over verbatim
for the time being.
I plan to "blank" pages as I go. Replacing them with a single
instruction to either visit the new page on the new wiki, or to
consult the docs.
On 2 February 2014 15:58, Robert Samuel Newson <rn...@apache.org> wrote:
> Cool!
>
> Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take what's good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should live, the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools, guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques, details of internals, and so on).
>
> B.
>
> On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> We have a new wiki:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>
>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>
>> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
>> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
>>
>> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>
>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>
>>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>>>
>>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my todo list
>>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on the
>>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki for
>>>>>>> now:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>>>>> * Merge procedure
>>>>>>> * Release procedure
>>>>>>> * Release preparation
>>>>>>> * Test procedure
>>>>>>> * Committer election process
>>>>>>> * PMC election process
>>>>>>> * Community guide
>>>>>>> * Roadmap process
>>>>>>> * Board reports
>>>>>>> * Board report guide
>>>>>>> * Code of conduct
>>>>>>> * PMC charter
>>>>>>> * By-laws
>>>>>>> * Marketing guide
>>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in working
>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the homepage,
>>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta tell you:
>>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change about
>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this email, and
>>>>>>> the page is still loading.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki recently,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna get
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm not
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in Moin, that
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just
>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>> move it over.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the
>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is
>>>>>>> causing
>>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater
>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Posted by Robert Samuel Newson <rn...@apache.org>.
Cool!
Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take what’s good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should live, the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools, guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques, details of internals, and so on).
B.
On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> We have a new wiki:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>
> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>
> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
>
> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>> We have a new wiki:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>
>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>
>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>>
>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to my todo list
>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener on the
>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jan
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki for
>>>>>> now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>>>> * Merge procedure
>>>>>> * Release procedure
>>>>>> * Release preparation
>>>>>> * Test procedure
>>>>>> * Committer election process
>>>>>> * PMC election process
>>>>>> * Community guide
>>>>>> * Roadmap process
>>>>>> * Board reports
>>>>>> * Board report guide
>>>>>> * Code of conduct
>>>>>> * PMC charter
>>>>>> * By-laws
>>>>>> * Marketing guide
>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in working
>>>>>> on.
>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the homepage,
>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta tell you:
>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change about
>>>>>> 20
>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this email, and
>>>>>> the page is still loading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki recently,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna get
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm not
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in Moin, that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just
>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>> move it over.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the
>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is
>>>>>> causing
>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater
>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater