Graduating OpenNLP

[Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>]

Hi all,

the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
has come to decide where we will go.

We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
our community.

The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.

Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level 
Project,
graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.

Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.

We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have long
term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the 
SourceForge
days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which is 
really
a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.

OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such as 
Stanbol, UIMA,
Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza. 
All these collaborations
are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.

At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of the
best open source NLP toolkits.

Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.

Jörn

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Alec Taylor <al...@gmail.com>]

+1 TLP

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When we first discussed moving the project to Apache a couple
> of ways have been considered, also making it a Subproject.
>
> Anyway, I think that a TLP is the way to go.
>
> Jörn
>
>
> On 11/22/11 5:26 PM, Aliaksandr Autayeu wrote:
>>
>> +1 as TLP. Wasn't that the initial intention? :)
>>
>> Aliaksandr
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Benson
>> Margulies<bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> As your mentor, I'd say that a TLP is the only sensible target.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Alex Holt<le...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 To Go To Apache top level
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann<ko...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
>>>>> has come to decide where we will go.
>>>>>
>>>>> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
>>>>> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
>>>>> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
>>>>> our community.
>>>>>
>>>>> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
>>>>> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
>>>>> Project,
>>>>> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
>>>>>
>>>>> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have
>>>
>>> long
>>>>>
>>>>> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
>>>>> SourceForge
>>>>> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which
>>>>> is
>>>>> really
>>>>> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such
>>>>> as
>>>>> Stanbol, UIMA,
>>>>> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
>>>
>>> All
>>>>>
>>>>> these collaborations
>>>>> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>>>>>
>>>>> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of
>>>
>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> best open source NLP toolkits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jörn
>>>>>
>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Jason Baldridge <ja...@gmail.com>]

+1 for TLP!

A quick additional note: I've been somewhat inactive for the last several
months due to various life factors, but I'm expecting to be able to take a
much more active role in 2012.  Also, it's been great to see all the recent
activity, and sorry for my silence!

Jason

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When we first discussed moving the project to Apache a couple
> of ways have been considered, also making it a Subproject.
>
> Anyway, I think that a TLP is the way to go.
>
> Jörn
>
>
> On 11/22/11 5:26 PM, Aliaksandr Autayeu wrote:
>
>> +1 as TLP. Wasn't that the initial intention? :)
>>
>> Aliaksandr
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Benson Margulies<bi...@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  As your mentor, I'd say that a TLP is the only sensible target.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Alex Holt<le...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 To Go To Apache top level
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann<ko...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
>>>>> has come to decide where we will go.
>>>>>
>>>>> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
>>>>> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
>>>>> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
>>>>> our community.
>>>>>
>>>>> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
>>>>> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
>>>>> Project,
>>>>> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
>>>>>
>>>>> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have
>>>>>
>>>> long
>>>
>>>> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
>>>>> SourceForge
>>>>> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which
>>>>> is
>>>>> really
>>>>> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such
>>>>> as
>>>>> Stanbol, UIMA,
>>>>> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
>>>>>
>>>> All
>>>
>>>> these collaborations
>>>>> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>>>>>
>>>>> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> best open source NLP toolkits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jörn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>


-- 
Jason Baldridge
Associate Professor, Department of Linguistics
The University of Texas at Austin
http://www.jasonbaldridge.com
http://twitter.com/jasonbaldridge

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>]

When we first discussed moving the project to Apache a couple
of ways have been considered, also making it a Subproject.

Anyway, I think that a TLP is the way to go.

Jörn

On 11/22/11 5:26 PM, Aliaksandr Autayeu wrote:
> +1 as TLP. Wasn't that the initial intention? :)
>
> Aliaksandr
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Benson Margulies<bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> As your mentor, I'd say that a TLP is the only sensible target.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Alex Holt<le...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> +1 To Go To Apache top level
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann<ko...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
>>>> has come to decide where we will go.
>>>>
>>>> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
>>>> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
>>>> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
>>>> our community.
>>>>
>>>> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
>>>> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
>>>>
>>>> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
>>>> Project,
>>>> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
>>>>
>>>> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
>>>>
>>>> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have
>> long
>>>> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
>>>> SourceForge
>>>> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which is
>>>> really
>>>> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
>>>>
>>>> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such as
>>>> Stanbol, UIMA,
>>>> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
>> All
>>>> these collaborations
>>>> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>>>>
>>>> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of
>> the
>>>> best open source NLP toolkits.
>>>>
>>>> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
>>>>
>>>> Jörn
>>>>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Aliaksandr Autayeu <al...@autayeu.com>]

+1 as TLP. Wasn't that the initial intention? :)

Aliaksandr

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> As your mentor, I'd say that a TLP is the only sensible target.
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Alex Holt <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1 To Go To Apache top level
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
> >> has come to decide where we will go.
> >>
> >> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
> >> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
> >> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
> >> our community.
> >>
> >> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
> >> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
> >>
> >> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
> >> Project,
> >> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
> >>
> >> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
> >>
> >> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have
> long
> >> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
> >> SourceForge
> >> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which is
> >> really
> >> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
> >>
> >> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such as
> >> Stanbol, UIMA,
> >> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
> All
> >> these collaborations
> >> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
> >>
> >> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of
> the
> >> best open source NLP toolkits.
> >>
> >> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
> >>
> >> Jörn
> >>
> >
>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>]

As your mentor, I'd say that a TLP is the only sensible target.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Alex Holt <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 To Go To Apache top level
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
>> has come to decide where we will go.
>>
>> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
>> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
>> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
>> our community.
>>
>> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
>> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
>>
>> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
>> Project,
>> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
>>
>> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
>>
>> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have long
>> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
>> SourceForge
>> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which is
>> really
>> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
>>
>> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such as
>> Stanbol, UIMA,
>> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza. All
>> these collaborations
>> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>>
>> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of the
>> best open source NLP toolkits.
>>
>> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
>>
>> Jörn
>>
>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Aliaksandr Autayeu <al...@autayeu.com>]

> In my opinion Apache OpenNLP has demonstrated a nice understanding of the
> Apache way, I think one thing to keep eyes on is the so called 'bus factor'
> [1] as it seems Jörn is far the most active committer [2]; it'd be good if

there is a more balanced commit rate between all the committers.
>
I have contributed few
patches<http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?view=&branch=&sound=&logMessage=autayeu&from=19940821&to=20111123&path=%2Fincubator%2Fopennlp&author=&IssueCode=&filename=&filetype=>,
which were nicely integrated by Jörn, so those might have had a different
name on the commit, increasing the bus factor.

Aliaksandr

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>]

In my opinion Apache OpenNLP has demonstrated a nice understanding of the
Apache way, I think one thing to keep eyes on is the so called 'bus factor'
[1] as it seems Jörn is far the most active committer [2]; it'd be good if
there is a more balanced commit rate between all the committers.
However, apart from that, I'm +1 for graduation to TLP.
I'd advice to take a look at the 'guide to successful graduation' [3] in
order to understand what the board and Incubator PMC expect from a project
graduating to TLP.
Tommaso

[1] : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
[2] :
http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?path=%2Fincubator%2Fopennlp
[3] : http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel

p.s.:
WRT Lucene/Solr integration I've given a talk at latest LuceneEurocon about
'Natural language search in Solr' (
http://www.lucidimagination.com/devzone/events/conferences/ApacheLuceneEurocon2011_presentations#tommaso_teofill)
and used OpenNLP inside UIMA to demonstrate how NLP can help on
improving
recall/precision.


2011/11/22 Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>

> +1 to become a TLP
>
> Jörn
>
>
> On 11/22/11 8:46 PM, william.colen@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1 TLP
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Boris Galitsky<bgalitsky@hotmail.com**
>> >wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such
>>>>>
>>>> as
>>>
>>>> Stanbol, UIMA,
>>>>> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
>>>>>
>>>> All
>>>
>>>> these collaborations
>>>>> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>>>>>
>>>> I was proposing at Lucene/Solr meetups here in Bay Area that there is a
>>> need for 'linguistic' analyzer which filters out high TF*IDF but
>>> irrelevant
>>> answers based on parse-features.So I will be further advocating OpenNLP
>>> and
>>> syntactic similarity-based SOLR request handler.
>>> RegardsBoris
>>>
>>>
>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>]

+1 to become a TLP

Jörn

On 11/22/11 8:46 PM, william.colen@gmail.com wrote:
> +1 TLP
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Boris Galitsky<bg...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such
>> as
>>>> Stanbol, UIMA,
>>>> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
>> All
>>>> these collaborations
>>>> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>> I was proposing at Lucene/Solr meetups here in Bay Area that there is a
>> need for 'linguistic' analyzer which filters out high TF*IDF but irrelevant
>> answers based on parse-features.So I will be further advocating OpenNLP and
>> syntactic similarity-based SOLR request handler.
>> RegardsBoris
>>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

["william.colen@gmail.com" <wi...@gmail.com>]

+1 TLP

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Boris Galitsky <bg...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> > >
> > > OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such
> as
> > > Stanbol, UIMA,
> > > Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
> All
> > > these collaborations
> > > are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>
> I was proposing at Lucene/Solr meetups here in Bay Area that there is a
> need for 'linguistic' analyzer which filters out high TF*IDF but irrelevant
> answers based on parse-features.So I will be further advocating OpenNLP and
> syntactic similarity-based SOLR request handler.
> RegardsBoris
>

RE: Graduating OpenNLP

[Boris Galitsky <bg...@hotmail.com>]

> >
> > OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such as
> > Stanbol, UIMA,
> > Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza. All
> > these collaborations
> > are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.

I was proposing at Lucene/Solr meetups here in Bay Area that there is a need for 'linguistic' analyzer which filters out high TF*IDF but irrelevant answers based on parse-features.So I will be further advocating OpenNLP and syntactic similarity-based SOLR request handler.
RegardsBoris
 		 	   		  

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Alex Holt <le...@gmail.com>]

+1 To Go To Apache top level

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
> has come to decide where we will go.
>
> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
> our community.
>
> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
>
> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
> Project,
> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
>
> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
>
> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have long
> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
> SourceForge
> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which is
> really
> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
>
> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such as
> Stanbol, UIMA,
> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza. All
> these collaborations
> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>
> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of the
> best open source NLP toolkits.
>
> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
>
> Jörn
>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>]

I recently came to OpenNLP mainly because of its integration within
UIMA and because of its approach in terms of NLP tasks and not
algorithm centered. In future, I would like it to include capabilities
for easy feature configuration and for may be considering alternatives
to the MaxEnt algorithm.

Probably that a TLP is the best way to pursue its developing
+1

/Nicolas

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:05 AM, James Kosin <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for Graduation, and +1 for TLP
>
> On 11/22/2011 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
>> has come to decide where we will go.
>>
>> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
>> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
>> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
>> our community.
>>
>> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
>> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
>>
>> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
>> Project,
>> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
>>
>> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
>>
>> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have
>> long
>> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
>> SourceForge
>> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which
>> is really
>> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
>>
>> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such
>> as Stanbol, UIMA,
>> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
>> All these collaborations
>> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>>
>> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of
>> the
>> best open source NLP toolkits.
>>
>> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
>>
>> Jörn
>
>

Re: Graduating OpenNLP

[James Kosin <ja...@gmail.com>]

+1 for Graduation, and +1 for TLP

On 11/22/2011 11:03 AM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the Incubator is not a place where we can stay forever and the time
> has come to decide where we will go.
>
> We did now two releases, where the first one was mainly about
> migrating from SourceForge and the second one was developed following
> the Apache-way with over 100 jira issues fixed, often with help from
> our community.
>
> The move to Apache was a great step forward. We grew our community
> and made the project more attractive to other open source projects.
>
> Theoretically we have three ways we can take, graduate to a Top Level
> Project,
> graduate to a Subproject or leave Apache.
>
> Making OpenNLP a Top Level Project seems as the best option for us.
>
> We have an open and diverse community, and I believe OpenNLP will have
> long
> term success at Apache. Many things tremendously improved over the
> SourceForge
> days and we are now able to work on the project as a community, which
> is really
> a distinction from most other open source NLP projects.
>
> OpenNLP sees good adaption/integration by other Apache projects, such
> as Stanbol, UIMA,
> Lucene/Solr (via UIMA and direct integration is planned) and Clerezza.
> All these collaborations
> are a good advertisement for us and will attract more users over time.
>
> At Apache we will have a bright future and will be able to make one of
> the
> best open source NLP toolkits.
>
> Please express your opinion about graduating OpenNLP.
>
> Jörn