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[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should
specify to use the Incubator PMC
Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
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Key: INCUBATOR-10
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10
Project: Incubator
Type: Improvement
Reporter: David N. Welton
Priority: Minor
This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
says:
"Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of:
* the Board of the Apache Software Foundation;
* a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation (where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or
* the Incubator PMC."
Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something like this:
Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT) incubator.apache.org mailing list.
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Re: [jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
Posted by "Gav...." <br...@brightontown.com.au>.
If somebody approves any word changes as below I can create a patch if
required.
Gav...
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| Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
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| Key: INCUBATOR-10
| URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10
| Project: Incubator
| Type: Improvement
| Reporter: David N. Welton
| Priority: Minor
|
|
| This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
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| says:
|
| "Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the
Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is
appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of:
|
| * the Board of the Apache Software Foundation;
| * a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation
(where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or
| * the Incubator PMC."
|
| Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred
sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something
like this:
|
| Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC
is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT)
incubator.apache.org mailing list.
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[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should
specify to use the Incubator PMC
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10?page=all ]
Roy T. Fielding updated INCUBATOR-10:
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Component: site
> Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-10
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10
> Project: Incubator
> Type: Improvement
> Components: site
> Reporter: David N. Welton
> Priority: Minor
>
> This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
> says:
> "Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of:
> * the Board of the Apache Software Foundation;
> * a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation (where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or
> * the Incubator PMC."
> Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something like this:
> Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT) incubator.apache.org mailing list.
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[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should
specify to use the Incubator PMC
Posted by "Martin Sebor (JIRA)" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10?page=comments#action_12362092 ]
Martin Sebor commented on INCUBATOR-10:
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I agree that it would be helpful to clarify this point. We were also initially unclear on who our sponsor was -- see the thread at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-stdcxx-dev/200508.mbox/%3c42F27772.1010003@roguewave.com%3e
> Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-10
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10
> Project: Incubator
> Type: Improvement
> Reporter: David N. Welton
> Priority: Minor
>
> This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
> says:
> "Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of:
> * the Board of the Apache Software Foundation;
> * a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation (where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or
> * the Incubator PMC."
> Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something like this:
> Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT) incubator.apache.org mailing list.
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[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should
specify to use the Incubator PMC
Posted by "Gavin (JIRA)" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10?page=comments#action_12362778 ]
Gavin commented on INCUBATOR-10:
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The original description quotes from the 'Proposal' section of this page. Further down the same page under the heading 'Sponsor' has similar (but clearer?) wording :-
..'Sponsor
The Sponsor is the entity within the ASF that makes the determination that a candidate would make a worthy addition to the ASF, and agrees to take on the candidate in question (or in the case of the Incubator PMC, assist it in finding a home) should it complete the incubation process.
A Sponsor will be one of:
The Board of the Apache Software Foundation. In this case, it is expected that the candidate would become a TLP on successful completion of Incubation.
A Top Level Project within the ASF. In this case, the project in question has agreed that the candidate is a good fit for their project, and will take on the candidate as a sub-project upon successful completion of Incubation.
The Incubator PMC. In this case, the Incubator PMC agrees that the project in question will make a good addition to the ASF, but there is no clear "owner" of the candidate should it successfully complete incubation. An incubation exit requirement for such candidates will be the identification (and successfuly lobbying) of an "owner" entity - either the board (and the candidate will be a TLP) or another project. '..
I would suggest therefore :-
1. that the sponsor relevent wording be removed from the 'Proposal' section in favour of a #link to the 'Sponsor' section instead.
2. the Sponsor section seems to order in top-down heirarcy of organisation rather than in order of preference and likely scenario. So maybe reverse the list order to read :-
..'A Sponsor will be one of (in likely order):
The Incubator PMC. In this case, the Incubator PMC agrees that the project in question will make a good addition to the ASF, but there is no clear "owner" of the candidate should it successfully complete incubation. An incubation exit requirement for such candidates will be the identification (and successfuly lobbying) of an "owner" entity - either the board (and the candidate will be a TLP) or another project.
A Top Level Project within the ASF. In this case, the project in question has agreed that the candidate is a good fit for their project, and will take on the candidate as a sub-project upon successful completion of Incubation.
The Board of the Apache Software Foundation. In this case, it is expected that the candidate would become a TLP on successful completion of Incubation.
'..
Maybe add after this something like :-
'In all cases the first stop should be the Incubator mailing list'
WDYT? Once agreed I can make the changes to the page.
> Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-10
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10
> Project: Incubator
> Type: Improvement
> Reporter: David N. Welton
> Priority: Minor
>
> This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
> says:
> "Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of:
> * the Board of the Apache Software Foundation;
> * a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation (where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or
> * the Incubator PMC."
> Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something like this:
> Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT) incubator.apache.org mailing list.
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[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-10) Incubation_Policy.html should
specify to use the Incubator PMC
Posted by "David N. Welton (JIRA)" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>.
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10?page=comments#action_12362831 ]
David N. Welton commented on INCUBATOR-10:
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I would put TLP's as the most likely sponsor *if a project would fit*, then the incubator PMC, then the board, as a last resort.
I think I would link the 'sponsor' section, but also explain the actions to be taken at that point, for anyone doing things step by step.
Otherwise, it looks pretty good to me.
> Incubation_Policy.html should specify to use the Incubator PMC
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INCUBATOR-10
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-10
> Project: Incubator
> Type: Improvement
> Reporter: David N. Welton
> Priority: Minor
>
> This page http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
> says:
> "Approval by a Sponsor will generally occur only after a vote within the Entity, and will require that the Entity be convinced that the Candidate is appropriate for Incubation. A Sponsor may be one of:
> * the Board of the Apache Software Foundation;
> * a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apache Software Foundation (where the TLP considers the Candidate to be a suitable sub-project); or
> * the Incubator PMC."
> Although in practice it appears that the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor for projects that would end up a TLP. The site could say something like this:
> Where a top level project is not an appropriate sponsor, the Incubator PMC is the preferred sponsor. Requests should be sent to the general (AT) incubator.apache.org mailing list.
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