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Google Analytice and netbeans.apache.org
Hi all,
Based on the below:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33361
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0baa4c8bf35465608337f51d639c8d625bb5ce67f95f98320288c240@1358815212@%3Cdev.flex.apache.org%3E
I created this:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1210
Sarvesh was interested in this, I have assigned him to it, Neil C. Smith
and Antonio Vieiro may also be interested.
Any insights or next steps welcome.
Thanks,
Gj
Re: Google Analytice and netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 09/04/2018 02:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Clicking through the links above, if we go ahead with this, we'll need
> something like this too:
>
> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
The last bit, where it says "by using this website, you consent to..."
is not really valid in GDPR-land, especially since the user is only
informed after the fact. There are some tips here, you might want to
consider:
https://www.blastam.com/blog/5-actionable-steps-gdpr-compliance-google-analytics
(especially item 5 which points out that you have to make it opt-in, not
opt-out, and points to a possible solution)
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Based on the below:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33361
>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0baa4c8bf35465608337f51d639c8d
>> 625bb5ce67f95f98320288c240@1358815212@%3Cdev.flex.apache.org%3E
>>
>> I created this:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1210
>>
>> Sarvesh was interested in this, I have assigned him to it, Neil C. Smith
>> and Antonio Vieiro may also be interested.
>>
>> Any insights or next steps welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>
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Re: Google Analytice and netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 09/04/2018 03:23 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> What I still don't really understand is that Daniel (I believe) showed me
> on infra chat an image of data that has been received somewhere in the
> Apache infra backend and Ate also told me that siuch facilities already
> exist -- hence, why do we need Google Analytics at all if this info is
> already being gathered somehow?
>
> Hope a mentor can answer this question.
We do have ephemeral data that we need to function as a academic
organization, yes.
With regards to this specific data, there isn't an easy way to say "you
can have this data, and you can have that" right now. Infra has access
to all the request data, and can make screenshots like the one I showed
you, but obviously does not want you to have the same all-in access pass
to everything.
It's a question of what the infra team _has_ do to, and what would be
nice to have. A nice-to-have would be custom statistics for each TLP,
properly anonymized etc, but we don't have that at present, and - unless
someone wants to write something that does that in their spare time -
not in the immediate future. Fires crop up from time to time, and they
need our main attention.
With regards,
Daniel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> ...if we go ahead with this, we'll need
>>> something like this too:
>>>
>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
>>
>> I think linking to
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html should be good
>> enough, IIRC that Jackrabbit variant was created earlier, but the
>> standard one is preferred.
>>
>> -Bertrand
>>
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Re: Google Analytice and netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
What I still don't really understand is that Daniel (I believe) showed me
on infra chat an image of data that has been received somewhere in the
Apache infra backend and Ate also told me that siuch facilities already
exist -- hence, why do we need Google Analytics at all if this info is
already being gathered somehow?
Hope a mentor can answer this question.
Thanks,
Gj
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > ...if we go ahead with this, we'll need
> > something like this too:
> >
> > http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
>
> I think linking to
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html should be good
> enough, IIRC that Jackrabbit variant was created earlier, but the
> standard one is preferred.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: Google Analytice and netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> ...if we go ahead with this, we'll need
> something like this too:
>
> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
I think linking to
https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html should be good
enough, IIRC that Jackrabbit variant was created earlier, but the
standard one is preferred.
-Bertrand
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Re: Google Analytice and netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Clicking through the links above, if we go ahead with this, we'll need
something like this too:
http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
Gj
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Based on the below:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33361
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0baa4c8bf35465608337f51d639c8d
> 625bb5ce67f95f98320288c240@1358815212@%3Cdev.flex.apache.org%3E
>
> I created this:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1210
>
> Sarvesh was interested in this, I have assigned him to it, Neil C. Smith
> and Antonio Vieiro may also be interested.
>
> Any insights or next steps welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>