2009 Summer of Code

[Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

I am surprised to not see JSPWiki on Apache's 2009 Summer of Code list:

http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2009

Greetings,
Juergen
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Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Janne Jalkanen <ja...@ecyrd.com>]

> My preference would be some way to use either meta-data or  
> categorization to
> organize my pages. It would also be great if I could establish  
> standard
> templates for page types, i.e. "SpecTemplate" to pre-populate new  
> pages and
> encourage consistency.

JSPWiki 3 has a very rich metadata model.  In fact, page content  
becomes metadata itself around an more abstract concept of WikiPage  
which can be viewed as a node in a tree.

The trunk already shows you what's possible, but be aware that it is  
very broken atm.  It wouldn't work if you deployed it, for example...

/Janne

Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com>]

In our in-house wiki we track many projects, and each project has pages of
certain types (specs, use cases, etc.). I tried (and we discussed here)
different meta-data solutions and eventually settled on a naming convention.
All pages are prefixed with the project name and suffixed with the page type

So for a project "My Project", a "Spec" called "User Interface" would have
the name "My Project User Interface Spec". I use various plugins to list
pages for a project by type, using this naming convention. As you can
imagine, this is fragile (i.e. renaming the "My Project" page would lose
track of all its pages until you manually rename them).

My preference would be some way to use either meta-data or categorization to
organize my pages. It would also be great if I could establish standard
templates for page types, i.e. "SpecTemplate" to pre-populate new pages and
encourage consistency.

Regarding editors, I have a half-way solution for page templates, but each
editor seems to require a different mechanism to pre-populate a page. The
"plain" editor can use the "clone" argument, but another editor requires you
to use the "_content" parameter (if I remember correctly). Currently, I only
support the "plain" editor and my users of other editors (I have FCK and
WikiWizard installed as alternatives) are on their own.

-- 
Bobman

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Fischer, Nicola (ORISA Software GmbH) <
fischer@orisa.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What do you mean with categorization? This is a very flexible
> term/catchphrase.
>
> From my point of view:
> A good editor with upload and wikisysntax help(mean the user doesn´t need
> to care about wikisyntax) would help a lot with user acceptance and
> usabability issues.
>
> As for indexing there is a Attachmentprovider that is capable of some
> common formats: http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/PDFIndexerPlugin
>
> Regards,
> Nicola
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Bob Paige [mailto:bobpaige@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. März 2009 16:19
> An: jspwiki-user@incubator.apache.org; vschmidt@schmidtusa.com
> Betreff: Re: 2009 Summer of Code
>
> Where is the official JSPWiki wish list? I'd like to see meta data and
> categorization of pages, along with sub-wikis.
>
> --
> Bobman
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Vaughan Schmidt
> <vs...@schmidtusa.com>wrote:
>
> > On my wish list-
> >
> > indexing of more attachment file types
> >
> > -Vaughan
> >
> > On Thursday 19 March 2009 11:06:54 Alexey Kakunin wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > 2009/3/19 Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature
> > > > additions:
> > > >
> > > > - easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are
> > > > way too complicated)
> > > > - Eclipse RCP based editor
> > >
> > > For this need to see MyLyn WikiText - just released as part of MyLyn
> > > 3.1
> > >
> > > - pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
> > >
> > > > - a nice blog based on the wiki
> > > > - import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
> > > > http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Juergen
> > > >
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> >
> >
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AW: 2009 Summer of Code

["Fischer, Nicola (ORISA Software GmbH)" <fi...@orisa.de>]

Hi,

What do you mean with categorization? This is a very flexible term/catchphrase.

>From my point of view:
A good editor with upload and wikisysntax help(mean the user doesn´t need to care about wikisyntax) would help a lot with user acceptance and usabability issues.

As for indexing there is a Attachmentprovider that is capable of some common formats: http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/PDFIndexerPlugin

Regards,
Nicola


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bob Paige [mailto:bobpaige@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. März 2009 16:19
An: jspwiki-user@incubator.apache.org; vschmidt@schmidtusa.com
Betreff: Re: 2009 Summer of Code

Where is the official JSPWiki wish list? I'd like to see meta data and categorization of pages, along with sub-wikis.

--
Bobman

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Vaughan Schmidt
<vs...@schmidtusa.com>wrote:

> On my wish list-
>
> indexing of more attachment file types
>
> -Vaughan
>
> On Thursday 19 March 2009 11:06:54 Alexey Kakunin wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > 2009/3/19 Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature
> > > additions:
> > >
> > > - easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are 
> > > way too complicated)
> > > - Eclipse RCP based editor
> >
> > For this need to see MyLyn WikiText - just released as part of MyLyn 
> > 3.1
> >
> > - pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
> >
> > > - a nice blog based on the wiki
> > > - import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
> > > http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Juergen
> > >
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > > http://www.nabble.com/2009-Summer-of-Code-tp22599361p22601022.htm
> > >l Sent from the JspWiki - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>


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Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Janne Jalkanen <ja...@ecyrd.com>]

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI

Subwikis (called WikiSpaces https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-419)

Metadata https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-421

Both, BTW, already being worked on in 3.0 SVN trunk.

/Janne

On 19 Mar 2009, at 17:19, Bob Paige wrote:

> Where is the official JSPWiki wish list? I'd like to see meta data and
> categorization of pages, along with sub-wikis.
>
> -- 
> Bobman
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Vaughan Schmidt
> <vs...@schmidtusa.com>wrote:
>
>> On my wish list-
>>
>> indexing of more attachment file types
>>
>> -Vaughan
>>
>> On Thursday 19 March 2009 11:06:54 Alexey Kakunin wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> 2009/3/19 Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature
>>>> additions:
>>>>
>>>> - easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are
>>>> way too complicated)
>>>> - Eclipse RCP based editor
>>>
>>> For this need to see MyLyn WikiText - just released as part of
>>> MyLyn 3.1
>>>
>>> - pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
>>>
>>>> - a nice blog based on the wiki
>>>> - import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
>>>> http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/2009-Summer-of-Code-tp22599361p22601022.htm
>>>> l Sent from the JspWiki - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>

Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com>]

Where is the official JSPWiki wish list? I'd like to see meta data and
categorization of pages, along with sub-wikis.

-- 
Bobman

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Vaughan Schmidt
<vs...@schmidtusa.com>wrote:

> On my wish list-
>
> indexing of more attachment file types
>
> -Vaughan
>
> On Thursday 19 March 2009 11:06:54 Alexey Kakunin wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > 2009/3/19 Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature
> > > additions:
> > >
> > > - easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are
> > > way too complicated)
> > > - Eclipse RCP based editor
> >
> > For this need to see MyLyn WikiText - just released as part of
> > MyLyn 3.1
> >
> > - pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
> >
> > > - a nice blog based on the wiki
> > > - import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
> > > http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Juergen
> > >
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > > http://www.nabble.com/2009-Summer-of-Code-tp22599361p22601022.htm
> > >l Sent from the JspWiki - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Vaughan Schmidt <vs...@schmidtusa.com>]

On my wish list-

indexing of more attachment file types

-Vaughan 

On Thursday 19 March 2009 11:06:54 Alexey Kakunin wrote:
> Hi!
>
> 2009/3/19 Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>
>
> > Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature
> > additions:
> >
> > - easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are
> > way too complicated)
> > - Eclipse RCP based editor
>
> For this need to see MyLyn WikiText - just released as part of
> MyLyn 3.1
>
> - pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
>
> > - a nice blog based on the wiki
> > - import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
> > http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Juergen
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://www.nabble.com/2009-Summer-of-Code-tp22599361p22601022.htm
> >l Sent from the JspWiki - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Janne Jalkanen <ja...@ecyrd.com>]

The problem isn't the ideas, the problem is getting an Apache mentor  
to oversee the project. I've got a dozen ideas myself, but I just  
simply don't have the time to oversee anyone else (I do that enough in  
my day job and at home ;-).  So if anyone is willing to step up to the  
plate and function as a mentor I can offer as much support as I can.

The image import gets my vote too.  I would also like to see an one- 
click opening of attachments so that when you press "save" it gets  
automatically uploaded to the wiki. This would be possible to do with  
a custom Flash or Java component which watches the saved file and  
performs uploads.

/Janne

On 19 Mar 2009, at 16:46, Juergen Weber wrote:

>
> Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature  
> additions:
>
> - easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are way  
> too
> complicated)
> - Eclipse RCP based editor
> - pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
> - a nice blog based on the wiki
> - import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
> http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)
>
> Cheers,
> Juergen
>
> -- 
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/2009-Summer-of-Code-tp22599361p22601022.html
> Sent from the JspWiki - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Alexey Kakunin <ak...@emdev.ru>]

Hi!

2009/3/19 Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>

>
> Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature additions:
>
> - easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are way too
> complicated)
> - Eclipse RCP based editor

For this need to see MyLyn WikiText - just released as part of MyLyn 3.1

- pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
> - a nice blog based on the wiki
> - import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
> http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)
>
> Cheers,
> Juergen
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/2009-Summer-of-Code-tp22599361p22601022.html
> Sent from the JspWiki - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>


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Alexey Kakunin, EmDev Limited

Professional Software Development:
http://www.emdev.ru

Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>]

Had coffee with my colleages and chatted about JSPWiki feature additions:

- easy (that is ctrl-C ctrl-V) import of images (attachments are way too
complicated)
- Eclipse RCP based editor
- pluggable wiki engines -> creole, mediawiki
- a nice blog based on the wiki
- import for Word documents (maybe via OpenOffice Writer and
http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/)

Cheers,
Juergen

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Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Juergen Weber <we...@gmail.com>]

Janne Jalkanen-2 wrote:
> 
>> I am surprised to not see JSPWiki on Apache's 2009 Summer of Code list:
>> 
>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2009
> 
> I am surprised to hear about such a thing :-)
> 
> I don't know whether we have mentors available for this kind of a
> project though.  Anybody?
> 
> /Janne
> 
> 

Well, first one would need project ideas for a student (doable, interesting,
self-contained) Got any?

Port away from Stripes to JSF or JSP 2.0 EL ?  ;-)

Oh, I know, the famous wysiwyg editor .. 

Juergen
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Re: 2009 Summer of Code

[Janne Jalkanen <ja...@iki.fi>]

> I am surprised to not see JSPWiki on Apache's 2009 Summer of Code list:
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2009

I am surprised to hear about such a thing :-)

I don't know whether we have mentors available for this kind of a
project though.  Anybody?

/Janne