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AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?
Hi,
Release Notes 4.0 [*]
section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
----------------------------------------------
As always we welcome your feedback:
- Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
- Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
issue tracking system.
- General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
----------------------------------------------
I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is trivial,
but I musk ask:
Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
Regards,
Czesław
[*]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?
Posted by Czesław Wolański <cz...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
@Marcus & Keith
Thank you both for your insight. My concern was rather unfounded.
The said paragraph may return in case of a next major release, I suppose.
Regards,
Czesław
Am Mo., 26. Apr. 2021 um 01:34 Uhr schrieb Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mckenna@comcast.net>:
> On 2021-04-24 05:53, Czesław Wolański wrote:
> > Hi Marcus,
> >
> > Thank you for clarifying.
> > I don't know if it is essential,
> > just a question that occured to me while reading the ReadMe file for the
> > umpteenth time.
> >
> > Time is going by and I am devolving. ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Czesław
>
> As I remember correctly Release Notes for 3.4, 3.4.1 and 4.0.0 were
> pretty much free style. Version 4.0 was a major release with big
> enhancements, top of the list was the introduction of the side bar. In
> the context of a major Release the statements that you reference made
> sense as it was a major change to the UI.
>
> Somewhere between 4.0.0 and 4.0.1 I developed the Template the we
> currently use to generate release notes to give a consistent look and
> feel as to where to find pertinent information.
>
> I believe the information is covered, just in other sections of the
> notes. However I am always open to suggestions on what could be added or
> changed.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
> >
> > Am Sa., 24. Apr. 2021 um 11:19 Uhr schrieb Marcus <marcus.mail@wtnet.de
> >:
> >
> >> Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
> >>> Release Notes 4.0 [*]
> >>> section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------
> >>> As always we welcome your feedback:
> >>>
> >>> - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
> >>> - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
> >>> issue tracking system.
> >>> - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
> >>> ----------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is
> >> trivial,
> >>> but I musk ask:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
> >>> As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
> >>>
> >>> https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
> >>>
> >>> [*]
> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
> >>
> >> I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
> >> notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
> >> notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
> >>
> >> So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
> >> evolving. ;-)
> >>
> >> However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
> >>
> >> Marcus
> >>
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> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
On 2021-04-24 05:53, Czesław Wolański wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
>
> Thank you for clarifying.
> I don't know if it is essential,
> just a question that occured to me while reading the ReadMe file for the
> umpteenth time.
>
> Time is going by and I am devolving. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Czesław
As I remember correctly Release Notes for 3.4, 3.4.1 and 4.0.0 were
pretty much free style. Version 4.0 was a major release with big
enhancements, top of the list was the introduction of the side bar. In
the context of a major Release the statements that you reference made
sense as it was a major change to the UI.
Somewhere between 4.0.0 and 4.0.1 I developed the Template the we
currently use to generate release notes to give a consistent look and
feel as to where to find pertinent information.
I believe the information is covered, just in other sections of the
notes. However I am always open to suggestions on what could be added or
changed.
Regards
Keith
>
> Am Sa., 24. Apr. 2021 um 11:19 Uhr schrieb Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>:
>
>> Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
>>> Release Notes 4.0 [*]
>>> section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>> As always we welcome your feedback:
>>>
>>> - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
>>> - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
>>> issue tracking system.
>>> - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is
>> trivial,
>>> but I musk ask:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
>>> As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
>>>
>>> https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
>>>
>>> [*]
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>>
>> I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
>> notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
>> notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
>>
>> So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
>> evolving. ;-)
>>
>> However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?
Posted by Czesław Wolański <cz...@gmail.com>.
Hi Marcus,
Thank you for clarifying.
I don't know if it is essential,
just a question that occured to me while reading the ReadMe file for the
umpteenth time.
Time is going by and I am devolving. ;-)
Regards,
Czesław
Am Sa., 24. Apr. 2021 um 11:19 Uhr schrieb Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>:
> Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
> > Release Notes 4.0 [*]
> > section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > As always we welcome your feedback:
> >
> > - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
> > - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
> > issue tracking system.
> > - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
> > ----------------------------------------------
> >
> > I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is
> trivial,
> > but I musk ask:
> >
> > Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
> > As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
> >
> > https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
> >
> > [*]
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>
> I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
> notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
> notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
>
> So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
> evolving. ;-)
>
> However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
>
> Marcus
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 24.04.21 um 22:02 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 2021-04-24 05:19, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
>>> Release Notes 4.0 [*]
>>> section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>> As always we welcome your feedback:
>>>
>>> - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
>>> - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
>>> issue tracking system.
>>> - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is
>>> trivial,
>>> but I musk ask:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
>>> As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
>>>
>>> https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
>>>
>>> [*]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>>>
>>
>> I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
>> notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
>> notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
>>
>> So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
>> evolving. ;-)
>>
>> However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
>>
> I will be setting aside time tomorrow after church to go through and
> redesign the template that is used to generate the release notes. I will
> then generate a dummy release note and send to dev@ and hope there is
> more feedback on it than there was on the original.
that's fine. I'll have a look in any case. Maybe we can use this already
for a 4.2.0 release.
Marcus
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Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
On 2021-04-24 05:19, Marcus wrote:
> Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
>> Release Notes 4.0 [*]
>> section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> As always we welcome your feedback:
>>
>> - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
>> - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
>> issue tracking system.
>> - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is
>> trivial,
>> but I musk ask:
>>
>> Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
>> As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
>>
>> https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
>>
>> [*]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>>
>
> I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
> notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
> notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
>
> So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
> evolving. ;-)
>
> However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
>
> Marcus
I will be setting aside time tomorrow after church to go through and
redesign the template that is used to generate the release notes. I will
then generate a dummy release note and send to dev@ and hope there is
more feedback on it than there was on the original.
Regards
Keith
Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
> Release Notes 4.0 [*]
> section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> As always we welcome your feedback:
>
> - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
> - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
> issue tracking system.
> - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is trivial,
> but I musk ask:
>
> Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
> As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
>
> https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
>
> [*]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
evolving. ;-)
However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
Marcus
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