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[DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Hi all,
Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to SQL
conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such as
Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3]. WDYT?
Best,
Stamatis
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
[2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
[3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Gavin Ray <ra...@gmail.com>.
Huge +1, if everyone could share links to resources they have found that
helped them it would be great.
For instance, Vladimir Ozerov from Querify Labs has a Notion document (in
Russian, but you can use Google Translate) that I discovered from a
presentation he gave:
https://querifylabs.notion.site/Apache-Calcite-SQL-Java-be85ad4f6b5d41c48a484ad3f57d1e22
It has ~50 resource links about everything from Calcite to general query
optimization/planning theory, amazing!
I agree with Yanjing as well, it would be very useful to put them on the
website docs somewhere.
Maybe a "Learning Resources" page or something like that?
-----
As a side note, would anyone else be interested in a Calcite Slack/Discord
server?
For when you have very small questions you don't want to clutter up the
mailing list with/for sharing resources, etc
I have been asking some of the more basic questions in the Substrait Slack
#random channel, but it's only because there is a crossover between
Substrait users and Calcite users.
Jacques probably doesn't appreciate me abusing his server, ha.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 6:35 AM Yanjing Wang <zh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks Stamatis, It's helpful for newcomers, but I'm inclined to put them
> into docs page, because they are additional documentation resources for
> calcite.
>
> Xiong Duan <xi...@apache.org> 于2022年1月24日周一 18:40写道：
>
> > +1. This will be very helpful.
> >
> > On 2022/01/24 09:47:16 Ruben Q L wrote:
> > > Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
> > >
> > > I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
> > > comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
> > > something like that) under the community page?
> > >
> > > I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's
> a
> > > risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become
> > outdated
> > > or obsolete.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Ruben
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Stamatis,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for driving this discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers
> to
> > > > Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to
> get
> > > > more started documentation.
> > > >
> > > > At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put
> > in
> > > > this section. Because the content introduced on the community page
> > means
> > > > that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> > > > authoritative.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jing Zhang
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on
> GraphQL
> > to
> > > > SQL
> > > > > conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of
> > creating a
> > > > > new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff
> > such
> > > > as
> > > > > Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3].
> > WDYT?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Stamatis
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> > > > > [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> > > > > [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Yanjing Wang <zh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Stamatis, It's helpful for newcomers, but I'm inclined to put them
into docs page, because they are additional documentation resources for
calcite.
Xiong Duan <xi...@apache.org> 于2022年1月24日周一 18:40写道：
> +1. This will be very helpful.
>
> On 2022/01/24 09:47:16 Ruben Q L wrote:
> > Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
> >
> > I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
> > comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
> > something like that) under the community page?
> >
> > I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's a
> > risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become
> outdated
> > or obsolete.
> >
> > Best,
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stamatis,
> > >
> > > Thanks for driving this discussion.
> > >
> > > Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
> > > Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
> > > more started documentation.
> > >
> > > At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put
> in
> > > this section. Because the content introduced on the community page
> means
> > > that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> > > authoritative.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jing Zhang
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL
> to
> > > SQL
> > > > conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of
> creating a
> > > > new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff
> such
> > > as
> > > > Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> > > >
> > > > We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3].
> WDYT?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Stamatis
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> > > > [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> > > > [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Xiong Duan <xi...@apache.org>.
+1. This will be very helpful.
On 2022/01/24 09:47:16 Ruben Q L wrote:
> Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
>
> I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
> comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
> something like that) under the community page?
>
> I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's a
> risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become outdated
> or obsolete.
>
> Best,
> Ruben
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Stamatis,
> >
> > Thanks for driving this discussion.
> >
> > Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
> > Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
> > more started documentation.
> >
> > At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put in
> > this section. Because the content introduced on the community page means
> > that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> > authoritative.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jing Zhang
> >
> >
> >
> > Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to
> > SQL
> > > conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
> > > new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such
> > as
> > > Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> > >
> > > We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3]. WDYT?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Stamatis
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> > > [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> > > [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Stamatis
I have created a PR [1] to add a new section in the community page, welcome
to review.
[1] https://github.com/apache/calcite/pull/2703
Best,
Jing Zhang
Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月27日周四 06:12写道：
> Many thanks to everyone for the feedback.
>
> I think the nature of the content fits slightly better under the community
> section rather than docs that others mentioned so I would say to start by
> putting things there. People have mentioned "External resources", "Learning
> resources" and I am fine with any of them. Even simply "Resources" could do
> the trick. Needless to say that if people want to improve the documentation
> by adding content, sections, etc., ideas and contributions are always
> welcome.
>
> The list will definitely need curation but let's deal with this when
> the time comes. As a side note, personally I prefer having a dead link
> rather than no link at all. With a bit of luck, a dead link, and the
> internet archive [1], I am able to find pages that are no longer online
> which can be quite helpful sometimes.
>
> I would really like to see the News section becoming more active and
> Julian's idea about putting short articles there is great! Since we are not
> using it this way at the moment we may have to explicitly encourage people
> to post their work when we become aware of it.
>
> If someone creates an initial PR for the community content I will be happy
> to review, otherwise I will try to create one in the following weeks to
> move this forward.
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1] https://archive.org/web/
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 8:28 PM Nicola Vitucci <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 on the community content section, and +1 for the News section idea!
> >
> > Nicola
> >
> >
> > Il lun 24 gen 2022, 16:51 Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
> >
> > > I love the idea of community content. Some of these projects will be
> the
> > > next generation of Calcite, and the authors our next PMC members.
> > >
> > > I share people’s concerns about the list items going obsolete, or the
> > > getting too long. How about moving older items to the
> > > https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks <
> > > https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks> section, keeping
> only
> > > the 5 or 6 most recent, and removing obsolete items entirely?
> > >
> > > Also, any thoughts on using News for short articles about interesting
> > > projects? https://calcite.apache.org/news/ <
> > > https://calcite.apache.org/news/> News articles are easy to write
> (just
> > > one .md file) and the web site generator naturally puts recent articles
> > at
> > > the top of the page.
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > > On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:34 AM, Alessandro Solimando <
> > > alessandro.solimando@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 on the proposal, I share Ruben's POV also, but I think we can
> revise
> > > the
> > > > content from time to time and deprecate/remove links when they get
> > stale.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Alessandro
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 16:29, Zhe Hu <il...@163.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It’s definitely a terrific proposal, especially for those new comers
> > and
> > > >> people who want to share something useful with the community.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I totally agree with what Jing Zhan and Ruben Q L mentioned, those
> > > useful
> > > >> stuff has higher requirements for authors and reviewers. What’s
> more,
> > > for
> > > >> each release, the RM might need to take a little while to briefly
> > check
> > > if
> > > >> those materials are still available.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Still, +1 for this.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> ZheHu
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 01/24/2022 17:47，Ruben Q L<ru...@gmail.com> wrote：
> > > >> Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for
> new
> > > >> comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources"
> (or
> > > >> something like that) under the community page?
> > > >>
> > > >> I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover,
> > there's a
> > > >> risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become
> > > outdated
> > > >> or obsolete.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Ruben
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Stamatis,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for driving this discussion.
> > > >>
> > > >> Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers
> to
> > > >> Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to
> > get
> > > >> more started documentation.
> > > >>
> > > >> At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to
> put
> > in
> > > >> this section. Because the content introduced on the community page
> > means
> > > >> that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> > > >> authoritative.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Jing Zhang
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL
> > to
> > > >> SQL
> > > >> conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of
> > creating a
> > > >> new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff
> > such
> > > >> as
> > > >> Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3].
> > > WDYT?
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Stamatis
> > > >>
> > > >> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> > > >> [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> > > >> [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Stamatis
Thanks for driving this discussion.
I would like to create a PR for the community content in the following days
of this week.
Best,
Jing Zhang
Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月27日周四 06:12写道：
> Many thanks to everyone for the feedback.
>
> I think the nature of the content fits slightly better under the community
> section rather than docs that others mentioned so I would say to start by
> putting things there. People have mentioned "External resources", "Learning
> resources" and I am fine with any of them. Even simply "Resources" could do
> the trick. Needless to say that if people want to improve the documentation
> by adding content, sections, etc., ideas and contributions are always
> welcome.
>
> The list will definitely need curation but let's deal with this when
> the time comes. As a side note, personally I prefer having a dead link
> rather than no link at all. With a bit of luck, a dead link, and the
> internet archive [1], I am able to find pages that are no longer online
> which can be quite helpful sometimes.
>
> I would really like to see the News section becoming more active and
> Julian's idea about putting short articles there is great! Since we are not
> using it this way at the moment we may have to explicitly encourage people
> to post their work when we become aware of it.
>
> If someone creates an initial PR for the community content I will be happy
> to review, otherwise I will try to create one in the following weeks to
> move this forward.
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1] https://archive.org/web/
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 8:28 PM Nicola Vitucci <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 on the community content section, and +1 for the News section idea!
> >
> > Nicola
> >
> >
> > Il lun 24 gen 2022, 16:51 Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
> >
> > > I love the idea of community content. Some of these projects will be
> the
> > > next generation of Calcite, and the authors our next PMC members.
> > >
> > > I share people’s concerns about the list items going obsolete, or the
> > > getting too long. How about moving older items to the
> > > https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks <
> > > https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks> section, keeping
> only
> > > the 5 or 6 most recent, and removing obsolete items entirely?
> > >
> > > Also, any thoughts on using News for short articles about interesting
> > > projects? https://calcite.apache.org/news/ <
> > > https://calcite.apache.org/news/> News articles are easy to write
> (just
> > > one .md file) and the web site generator naturally puts recent articles
> > at
> > > the top of the page.
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > > On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:34 AM, Alessandro Solimando <
> > > alessandro.solimando@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 on the proposal, I share Ruben's POV also, but I think we can
> revise
> > > the
> > > > content from time to time and deprecate/remove links when they get
> > stale.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Alessandro
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 16:29, Zhe Hu <il...@163.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It’s definitely a terrific proposal, especially for those new comers
> > and
> > > >> people who want to share something useful with the community.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I totally agree with what Jing Zhan and Ruben Q L mentioned, those
> > > useful
> > > >> stuff has higher requirements for authors and reviewers. What’s
> more,
> > > for
> > > >> each release, the RM might need to take a little while to briefly
> > check
> > > if
> > > >> those materials are still available.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Still, +1 for this.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> ZheHu
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 01/24/2022 17:47，Ruben Q L<ru...@gmail.com> wrote：
> > > >> Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for
> new
> > > >> comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources"
> (or
> > > >> something like that) under the community page?
> > > >>
> > > >> I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover,
> > there's a
> > > >> risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become
> > > outdated
> > > >> or obsolete.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Ruben
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Stamatis,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for driving this discussion.
> > > >>
> > > >> Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers
> to
> > > >> Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to
> > get
> > > >> more started documentation.
> > > >>
> > > >> At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to
> put
> > in
> > > >> this section. Because the content introduced on the community page
> > means
> > > >> that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> > > >> authoritative.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Jing Zhang
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL
> > to
> > > >> SQL
> > > >> conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of
> > creating a
> > > >> new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff
> > such
> > > >> as
> > > >> Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3].
> > > WDYT?
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Stamatis
> > > >>
> > > >> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> > > >> [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> > > >> [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>.
Many thanks to everyone for the feedback.
I think the nature of the content fits slightly better under the community
section rather than docs that others mentioned so I would say to start by
putting things there. People have mentioned "External resources", "Learning
resources" and I am fine with any of them. Even simply "Resources" could do
the trick. Needless to say that if people want to improve the documentation
by adding content, sections, etc., ideas and contributions are always
welcome.
The list will definitely need curation but let's deal with this when
the time comes. As a side note, personally I prefer having a dead link
rather than no link at all. With a bit of luck, a dead link, and the
internet archive [1], I am able to find pages that are no longer online
which can be quite helpful sometimes.
I would really like to see the News section becoming more active and
Julian's idea about putting short articles there is great! Since we are not
using it this way at the moment we may have to explicitly encourage people
to post their work when we become aware of it.
If someone creates an initial PR for the community content I will be happy
to review, otherwise I will try to create one in the following weeks to
move this forward.
Best,
Stamatis
[1] https://archive.org/web/
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 8:28 PM Nicola Vitucci <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> +1 on the community content section, and +1 for the News section idea!
>
> Nicola
>
>
> Il lun 24 gen 2022, 16:51 Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> > I love the idea of community content. Some of these projects will be the
> > next generation of Calcite, and the authors our next PMC members.
> >
> > I share people’s concerns about the list items going obsolete, or the
> > getting too long. How about moving older items to the
> > https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks <
> > https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks> section, keeping only
> > the 5 or 6 most recent, and removing obsolete items entirely?
> >
> > Also, any thoughts on using News for short articles about interesting
> > projects? https://calcite.apache.org/news/ <
> > https://calcite.apache.org/news/> News articles are easy to write (just
> > one .md file) and the web site generator naturally puts recent articles
> at
> > the top of the page.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > > On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:34 AM, Alessandro Solimando <
> > alessandro.solimando@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 on the proposal, I share Ruben's POV also, but I think we can revise
> > the
> > > content from time to time and deprecate/remove links when they get
> stale.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Alessandro
> > >
> > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 16:29, Zhe Hu <il...@163.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> It’s definitely a terrific proposal, especially for those new comers
> and
> > >> people who want to share something useful with the community.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I totally agree with what Jing Zhan and Ruben Q L mentioned, those
> > useful
> > >> stuff has higher requirements for authors and reviewers. What’s more,
> > for
> > >> each release, the RM might need to take a little while to briefly
> check
> > if
> > >> those materials are still available.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Still, +1 for this.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> ZheHu
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 01/24/2022 17:47，Ruben Q L<ru...@gmail.com> wrote：
> > >> Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
> > >>
> > >> I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
> > >> comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
> > >> something like that) under the community page?
> > >>
> > >> I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover,
> there's a
> > >> risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become
> > outdated
> > >> or obsolete.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Ruben
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Stamatis,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for driving this discussion.
> > >>
> > >> Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
> > >> Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to
> get
> > >> more started documentation.
> > >>
> > >> At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put
> in
> > >> this section. Because the content introduced on the community page
> means
> > >> that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> > >> authoritative.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Jing Zhang
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL
> to
> > >> SQL
> > >> conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of
> creating a
> > >> new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff
> such
> > >> as
> > >> Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> > >>
> > >> We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3].
> > WDYT?
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Stamatis
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> > >> [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> > >> [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Nicola Vitucci <ni...@gmail.com>.
+1 on the community content section, and +1 for the News section idea!
Nicola
Il lun 24 gen 2022, 16:51 Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> I love the idea of community content. Some of these projects will be the
> next generation of Calcite, and the authors our next PMC members.
>
> I share people’s concerns about the list items going obsolete, or the
> getting too long. How about moving older items to the
> https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks <
> https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks> section, keeping only
> the 5 or 6 most recent, and removing obsolete items entirely?
>
> Also, any thoughts on using News for short articles about interesting
> projects? https://calcite.apache.org/news/ <
> https://calcite.apache.org/news/> News articles are easy to write (just
> one .md file) and the web site generator naturally puts recent articles at
> the top of the page.
>
> Julian
>
> > On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:34 AM, Alessandro Solimando <
> alessandro.solimando@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 on the proposal, I share Ruben's POV also, but I think we can revise
> the
> > content from time to time and deprecate/remove links when they get stale.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alessandro
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 16:29, Zhe Hu <il...@163.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It’s definitely a terrific proposal, especially for those new comers and
> >> people who want to share something useful with the community.
> >>
> >>
> >> I totally agree with what Jing Zhan and Ruben Q L mentioned, those
> useful
> >> stuff has higher requirements for authors and reviewers. What’s more,
> for
> >> each release, the RM might need to take a little while to briefly check
> if
> >> those materials are still available.
> >>
> >>
> >> Still, +1 for this.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> ZheHu
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/24/2022 17:47，Ruben Q L<ru...@gmail.com> wrote：
> >> Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
> >>
> >> I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
> >> comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
> >> something like that) under the community page?
> >>
> >> I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's a
> >> risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become
> outdated
> >> or obsolete.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Ruben
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Stamatis,
> >>
> >> Thanks for driving this discussion.
> >>
> >> Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
> >> Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
> >> more started documentation.
> >>
> >> At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put in
> >> this section. Because the content introduced on the community page means
> >> that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> >> authoritative.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Jing Zhang
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to
> >> SQL
> >> conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
> >> new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such
> >> as
> >> Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> >>
> >> We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3].
> WDYT?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Stamatis
> >>
> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> >> [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> >> [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com>.
I love the idea of community content. Some of these projects will be the next generation of Calcite, and the authors our next PMC members.
I share people’s concerns about the list items going obsolete, or the getting too long. How about moving older items to the https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks <https://calcite.apache.org/community/#more-talks> section, keeping only the 5 or 6 most recent, and removing obsolete items entirely?
Also, any thoughts on using News for short articles about interesting projects? https://calcite.apache.org/news/ <https://calcite.apache.org/news/> News articles are easy to write (just one .md file) and the web site generator naturally puts recent articles at the top of the page.
Julian
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:34 AM, Alessandro Solimando <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 on the proposal, I share Ruben's POV also, but I think we can revise the
> content from time to time and deprecate/remove links when they get stale.
>
> Best regards,
> Alessandro
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 16:29, Zhe Hu <il...@163.com> wrote:
>
>> It’s definitely a terrific proposal, especially for those new comers and
>> people who want to share something useful with the community.
>>
>>
>> I totally agree with what Jing Zhan and Ruben Q L mentioned, those useful
>> stuff has higher requirements for authors and reviewers. What’s more, for
>> each release, the RM might need to take a little while to briefly check if
>> those materials are still available.
>>
>>
>> Still, +1 for this.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> ZheHu
>>
>>
>> On 01/24/2022 17:47，Ruben Q L<ru...@gmail.com> wrote：
>> Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
>>
>> I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
>> comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
>> something like that) under the community page?
>>
>> I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's a
>> risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become outdated
>> or obsolete.
>>
>> Best,
>> Ruben
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stamatis,
>>
>> Thanks for driving this discussion.
>>
>> Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
>> Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
>> more started documentation.
>>
>> At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put in
>> this section. Because the content introduced on the community page means
>> that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
>> authoritative.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jing Zhang
>>
>>
>>
>> Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to
>> SQL
>> conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
>> new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such
>> as
>> Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
>>
>> We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3]. WDYT?
>>
>> Best,
>> Stamatis
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
>> [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
>> [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
>>
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Alessandro Solimando <al...@gmail.com>.
+1 on the proposal, I share Ruben's POV also, but I think we can revise the
content from time to time and deprecate/remove links when they get stale.
Best regards,
Alessandro
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 16:29, Zhe Hu <il...@163.com> wrote:
> It’s definitely a terrific proposal, especially for those new comers and
> people who want to share something useful with the community.
>
>
> I totally agree with what Jing Zhan and Ruben Q L mentioned, those useful
> stuff has higher requirements for authors and reviewers. What’s more, for
> each release, the RM might need to take a little while to briefly check if
> those materials are still available.
>
>
> Still, +1 for this.
>
>
> Best,
> ZheHu
>
>
> On 01/24/2022 17:47，Ruben Q L<ru...@gmail.com> wrote：
> Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
>
> I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
> comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
> something like that) under the community page?
>
> I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's a
> risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become outdated
> or obsolete.
>
> Best,
> Ruben
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Stamatis,
>
> Thanks for driving this discussion.
>
> Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
> Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
> more started documentation.
>
> At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put in
> this section. Because the content introduced on the community page means
> that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> authoritative.
>
> Best,
> Jing Zhang
>
>
>
> Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
>
> Hi all,
>
> Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to
> SQL
> conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
> new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such
> as
> Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
>
> We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3]. WDYT?
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Zhe Hu <il...@163.com>.
It’s definitely a terrific proposal, especially for those new comers and people who want to share something useful with the community.
I totally agree with what Jing Zhan and Ruben Q L mentioned, those useful stuff has higher requirements for authors and reviewers. What’s more, for each release, the RM might need to take a little while to briefly check if those materials are still available.
Still, +1 for this.
Best,
ZheHu
On 01/24/2022 17:47，Ruben Q L<ru...@gmail.com> wrote：
Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
something like that) under the community page?
I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's a
risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become outdated
or obsolete.
Best,
Ruben
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stamatis,
Thanks for driving this discussion.
Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
more started documentation.
At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put in
this section. Because the content introduced on the community page means
that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
authoritative.
Best,
Jing Zhang
Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
Hi all,
Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to
SQL
conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such
as
Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3]. WDYT?
Best,
Stamatis
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
[2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
[3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Ruben Q L <ru...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the proposal Stamatis.
I agree that such a section could be very helpful, especially for new
comers. As you suggest, perhaps a new bullet "external resources" (or
something like that) under the community page?
I also share the concerns that Jing Zhang expressed. Moreover, there's a
risk that over the time some of the links that we share may become outdated
or obsolete.
Best,
Ruben
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 3:20 AM Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Stamatis,
>
> Thanks for driving this discussion.
>
> Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
> Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
> more started documentation.
>
> At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put in
> this section. Because the content introduced on the community page means
> that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
> authoritative.
>
> Best,
> Jing Zhang
>
>
>
> Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to
> SQL
> > conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
> > new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such
> as
> > Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
> >
> > We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3]. WDYT?
> >
> > Best,
> > Stamatis
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> > [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> > [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] New community section for articles/blogs/papers
Posted by Jing Zhang <be...@gmail.com>.
Hi Stamatis,
Thanks for driving this discussion.
Big +1 on the idea. They are undoubtedly very helpful for newcomers to
Calcite. I have heard a lot of requests in the dev mailing lists to get
more started documentation.
At the same time, we need take careful to decide what contents to put in
this section. Because the content introduced on the community page means
that the content has been recognized by the community and is more
authoritative.
Best,
Jing Zhang
Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> 于2022年1月24日周一 05:19写道：
> Hi all,
>
> Taking the recent email of Gavin [1] (sharing his article on GraphQL to SQL
> conversion) as a motive, I wanted to see what people think of creating a
> new section in the website for putting this and other useful stuff such as
> Michael's notebooks, Querifylabs blogs [2], etc.
>
> We could have one or more new bullets under the community page [3]. WDYT?
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3kgwsg18bglszfm51ngy1m58fnh9dd2c
> [2] https://www.querifylabs.com/blog
> [3] https://calcite.apache.org/community/
>