How complete is JSR-88 support?

[Peter Nabbefeld <Pe...@gmx.de>]

Hello,

from the wiki, it seems nothing has changed since 2005-03-22 05:39:00 
(obviously the roadmap hasn't been updated since then) ;-) .

So just my question: Is JSR-88 support complete? And what about the 
others? From the dev mailing list, I'd guess Geronimo is almost 
complete, so what (other than certification) is incomplete yet?

Kind regards

Peter Nabbefeld

Re: How complete is JSR-88 support?

[Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org>]

Taking just the JSR-88 bit, the plugin functionality that deals with 
distribution is complete - our deployer itself uses it to distribute, 
start, stop, etc. applications.

The configuration part of the API is not implemented (strictly, we say 
there are no configurable elements which IIRC is also what the RI does) 
so that there is no support for tools trying to build deployment 
descriptors.

--
Jeremy

Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> from the wiki, it seems nothing has changed since 2005-03-22 05:39:00 
> (obviously the roadmap hasn't been updated since then) ;-) .
> 
> So just my question: Is JSR-88 support complete? And what about the 
> others? From the dev mailing list, I'd guess Geronimo is almost 
> complete, so what (other than certification) is incomplete yet?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Peter Nabbefeld
> 

Re: How complete is JSR-88 support?

[Peter Nabbefeld <Pe...@gmx.de>]

Jacek Laskowski schrieb:
> Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> from the wiki, it seems nothing has changed since 2005-03-22 05:39:00 
>> (obviously the roadmap hasn't been updated since then) ;-) .
>>
>> So just my question: Is JSR-88 support complete? And what about the 
>> others? From the dev mailing list, I'd guess Geronimo is almost 
>> complete, so what (other than certification) is incomplete yet?
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Well, I'm just investigating the current status of Geronimo JSR88 
> support as I'm developing a NetBeans serverplugins module.

I'm very happy about that :-) :-) :-) !!!

I've just been looking around for some information about how to 
integrate geronimo myself, but I've not yet digged into geronimo (seems 
still not stable, documents about status are outdated etc. As I've not 
yet used J2EE, it would be horrible to do that). In addition I'd to dig 
into the j2ee module, which seems also not to have a stabilized api yet.

Just as I've said: I'm very happy that You're doing this work!

Kind regards

Peter Nabbefeld


> NetBeans IDE 
> already comes with several app servers and I decided to add Geronimo as 
> well. I couldn't long settle on which Rich Client Platform to pick up to 
> develop the module and after some rather general evaluation I decided to 
> go with NetBeans RCP. I must admit I very liked the announcement that 
> Eclipse has its own Geronimo plugin, too.
> 
> As far as I understand Geronimo JSR88 support, there're some parts of 
> JSR88 which aren't yet available. Most of the operations throws 
> Unsupported operation or something alike. I'm going to start a thread 
> about how much impact it might have on the current certification work so 
> I'm happy I'm not alone who's interested in it :)
> 
> As far as the NetBeans module (NBM) is concerned, it's not yet announced 
> here (and actually anywhere else but NetBeans nbj2ee mailing list) as I 
> don't actually know when it is going to be finished. At the moment, the 
> module adds a Geronimo instance (downloaded or built from sources), once 
> started up (it's mocked up at the moment to make sure I'm not distracted 
> with Geronimo itself) it prints out available configurations, sets up 
> one as default to be started up the next time. The last piece of the 
> puzzle is to have modules deployed using DeploymentManager. I'm not yet 
> using Geronimo's JMXDeploymentManager due to some class libraries 
> constraints on my part. That's why I can't say exactly what's missing.
> 
> Well, it's great you've asked about it - I should've written about it 
> long ago, esp. having noticed Eclipse WDT support for Geronimo. It looks 
> there're two IDEs which are heading towards the same goal, so sooner or 
> later Geronimo DeploymentManager will surely be complete. Stay tuned.
> 
>> Peter Nabbefeld
> 
> 
> Jacek
> 
> 

Re: How complete is JSR-88 support?

[Jacek Laskowski <jl...@apache.org>]

Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> from the wiki, it seems nothing has changed since 2005-03-22 05:39:00 
> (obviously the roadmap hasn't been updated since then) ;-) .
> 
> So just my question: Is JSR-88 support complete? And what about the 
> others? From the dev mailing list, I'd guess Geronimo is almost 
> complete, so what (other than certification) is incomplete yet?

Hi Peter,

Well, I'm just investigating the current status of Geronimo JSR88 
support as I'm developing a NetBeans serverplugins module. NetBeans IDE 
already comes with several app servers and I decided to add Geronimo as 
well. I couldn't long settle on which Rich Client Platform to pick up to 
develop the module and after some rather general evaluation I decided to 
go with NetBeans RCP. I must admit I very liked the announcement that 
Eclipse has its own Geronimo plugin, too.

As far as I understand Geronimo JSR88 support, there're some parts of 
JSR88 which aren't yet available. Most of the operations throws 
Unsupported operation or something alike. I'm going to start a thread 
about how much impact it might have on the current certification work so 
I'm happy I'm not alone who's interested in it :)

As far as the NetBeans module (NBM) is concerned, it's not yet announced 
here (and actually anywhere else but NetBeans nbj2ee mailing list) as I 
don't actually know when it is going to be finished. At the moment, the 
module adds a Geronimo instance (downloaded or built from sources), once 
started up (it's mocked up at the moment to make sure I'm not distracted 
with Geronimo itself) it prints out available configurations, sets up 
one as default to be started up the next time. The last piece of the 
puzzle is to have modules deployed using DeploymentManager. I'm not yet 
using Geronimo's JMXDeploymentManager due to some class libraries 
constraints on my part. That's why I can't say exactly what's missing.

Well, it's great you've asked about it - I should've written about it 
long ago, esp. having noticed Eclipse WDT support for Geronimo. It looks 
there're two IDEs which are heading towards the same goal, so sooner or 
later Geronimo DeploymentManager will surely be complete. Stay tuned.

> Peter Nabbefeld

Jacek

Re: How complete is JSR-88 support?

[Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>]

	JSR-88 support is not complete.  Most of the opoerations should
work (such as deploy, undeploy, etc.).  However, I don't believe the
configuration beans are complete or up to date.

Aaron

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Peter Nabbefeld wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> from the wiki, it seems nothing has changed since 2005-03-22 05:39:00 
> (obviously the roadmap hasn't been updated since then) ;-) .
> 
> So just my question: Is JSR-88 support complete? And what about the 
> others? From the dev mailing list, I'd guess Geronimo is almost 
> complete, so what (other than certification) is incomplete yet?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Peter Nabbefeld
> 
>