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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> on 2002/12/18 08:55:13 UTC
Re: Forrestize docs
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 2002/12/17 7:23 AM, "Otis Gospodnetic" <ot...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>What I _would_ like, on the other hand, is project information that
>>tools like Maven provide. File, developer, etc. activity, clover
>>reports, etc.
>>
>>Otis
>
> +1
>
> If the website is going to be built, it should be built with Maven, not
> Forrest. IMHO, all Nicola is doing is trying to push his stuff
Look who's talking, the one that told all jakarta developers to "quick,
convert all to Maven". I just followed a mail posted here, I did not
take initiatives myself.
> in even
> though it doesn't do things that are useful, like what Maven does.
I'm copying this to the Forrest list so they know what you think of our
project.
> I'm also
> pissed off that someone changed the UI. There is specific reasons why that
> UI was developed and what is in it.
I'm even more pissed off that someone made a project inside a project
inside a project and keeps shoving it up people's nose.
The UI was changed because we didn't like it. You don't like it? Send in
a patch with your skin. It's opensource, man.
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Re: additional paramters in xml help files
Posted by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>.
You may want to wait and see what will come out of the Forrestization
talk that just happened on lucene-dev over the last 2 days.
Apparently Forrest already has the ability to create printable docs.
Otis
--- ckirkendall <ck...@hobsons-us.com> wrote:
> I am trying to put together a xslt that will transform the help
> content
> on the site to a printable format and or pdf(trough fop). I have a
> simple xslt that works, however I had to do some ugly hacking to try
> to
> remove the last sections of each page in a group because they are
> just
> links to the next document in the set. I would like to add a
> parameter
> in section tag that states if it should be displayed in the printable
> document.
>
> Creighton Kirkendall
>
> On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 07:55, ckirkendall wrote:
> > I am working on an xslt to convert the current xml help files to
> pdf and
> > other formats.
> >
> > Creighton
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 14:24, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > > I will volunteer to commit both the forrest changes and maven
> changes
> > > provided the patches are "well formed" and do not interfere with
> > > Lucene's GUMP build (or regular build) working properly. Please
> > > endevour to make the patches compatible or they'll be rejected.
> The
> > > first one to submit the patches obviously has less work to do.
> > >
> > > My interest is in seeing the getting started guide in PDF format.
> > >
> > > -Andy
> > >
> > > Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thank you, and thank you :)
> > > >It looks like both tools would be useful, but Lucene is probably
> not a
> > > >project that will adopt either in the near future, as most
> developers
> > > >seem to be busy. I've had both tools on my 'to learn' list, but
> as
> > > >usual.......you're familiar with the story, probably.
> > > >
> > > >Otis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>I found a mail that encouraged to Forrestize docs and did it.
> > > >>I'm not in this project, though I am a user, and don't want to
> > > >>continue
> > > >>this irritating discussion any longer.
> > > >>
> > > >>It's sad how something that I did by trying to help became
> something
> > > >>I
> > > >>should be ashamed of.
> > > >>
> > > >>Sorry for the noise.
> > > >>
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> > >
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additional paramters in xml help files
Posted by ckirkendall <ck...@hobsons-us.com>.
I am trying to put together a xslt that will transform the help content
on the site to a printable format and or pdf(trough fop). I have a
simple xslt that works, however I had to do some ugly hacking to try to
remove the last sections of each page in a group because they are just
links to the next document in the set. I would like to add a parameter
in section tag that states if it should be displayed in the printable
document.
Creighton Kirkendall
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 07:55, ckirkendall wrote:
> I am working on an xslt to convert the current xml help files to pdf and
> other formats.
>
> Creighton
>
> On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 14:24, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > I will volunteer to commit both the forrest changes and maven changes
> > provided the patches are "well formed" and do not interfere with
> > Lucene's GUMP build (or regular build) working properly. Please
> > endevour to make the patches compatible or they'll be rejected. The
> > first one to submit the patches obviously has less work to do.
> >
> > My interest is in seeing the getting started guide in PDF format.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
> > Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >
> > >Thank you, and thank you :)
> > >It looks like both tools would be useful, but Lucene is probably not a
> > >project that will adopt either in the near future, as most developers
> > >seem to be busy. I've had both tools on my 'to learn' list, but as
> > >usual.......you're familiar with the story, probably.
> > >
> > >Otis
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I found a mail that encouraged to Forrestize docs and did it.
> > >>I'm not in this project, though I am a user, and don't want to
> > >>continue
> > >>this irritating discussion any longer.
> > >>
> > >>It's sad how something that I did by trying to help became something
> > >>I
> > >>should be ashamed of.
> > >>
> > >>Sorry for the noise.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
> > >> - verba volant, scripta manent -
> > >> (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: Forrestize docs
Posted by ckirkendall <ck...@hobsons-us.com>.
I am working on an xslt to convert the current xml help files to pdf and
other formats.
Creighton
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 14:24, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I will volunteer to commit both the forrest changes and maven changes
> provided the patches are "well formed" and do not interfere with
> Lucene's GUMP build (or regular build) working properly. Please
> endevour to make the patches compatible or they'll be rejected. The
> first one to submit the patches obviously has less work to do.
>
> My interest is in seeing the getting started guide in PDF format.
>
> -Andy
>
> Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>
> >Thank you, and thank you :)
> >It looks like both tools would be useful, but Lucene is probably not a
> >project that will adopt either in the near future, as most developers
> >seem to be busy. I've had both tools on my 'to learn' list, but as
> >usual.......you're familiar with the story, probably.
> >
> >Otis
> >
> >
> >--- Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I found a mail that encouraged to Forrestize docs and did it.
> >>I'm not in this project, though I am a user, and don't want to
> >>continue
> >>this irritating discussion any longer.
> >>
> >>It's sad how something that I did by trying to help became something
> >>I
> >>should be ashamed of.
> >>
> >>Sorry for the noise.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
> >> - verba volant, scripta manent -
> >> (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: Forrestize docs
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
I will volunteer to commit both the forrest changes and maven changes
provided the patches are "well formed" and do not interfere with
Lucene's GUMP build (or regular build) working properly. Please
endevour to make the patches compatible or they'll be rejected. The
first one to submit the patches obviously has less work to do.
My interest is in seeing the getting started guide in PDF format.
-Andy
Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>Thank you, and thank you :)
>It looks like both tools would be useful, but Lucene is probably not a
>project that will adopt either in the near future, as most developers
>seem to be busy. I've had both tools on my 'to learn' list, but as
>usual.......you're familiar with the story, probably.
>
>Otis
>
>
>--- Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I found a mail that encouraged to Forrestize docs and did it.
>>I'm not in this project, though I am a user, and don't want to
>>continue
>>this irritating discussion any longer.
>>
>>It's sad how something that I did by trying to help became something
>>I
>>should be ashamed of.
>>
>>Sorry for the noise.
>>
>>--
>>Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
>> - verba volant, scripta manent -
>> (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: Forrestize docs
Posted by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>.
Thank you, and thank you :)
It looks like both tools would be useful, but Lucene is probably not a
project that will adopt either in the near future, as most developers
seem to be busy. I've had both tools on my 'to learn' list, but as
usual.......you're familiar with the story, probably.
Otis
--- Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I found a mail that encouraged to Forrestize docs and did it.
> I'm not in this project, though I am a user, and don't want to
> continue
> this irritating discussion any longer.
>
> It's sad how something that I did by trying to help became something
> I
> should be ashamed of.
>
> Sorry for the noise.
>
> --
> Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
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Re: Forrestize docs
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
I found a mail that encouraged to Forrestize docs and did it.
I'm not in this project, though I am a user, and don't want to continue
this irritating discussion any longer.
It's sad how something that I did by trying to help became something I
should be ashamed of.
Sorry for the noise.
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RE: Forrestize docs
Posted by Curtis Seyfried <cu...@verizon.net>.
Hi,
I've been lurking and listening to these discussions. I'm just trying to
learn how to use lucene.
BUT, as to Forrest .vs. Maven .vs. whatever, here's a suggestion.
Those who want to Forrestize do so.
Those who want to Mavenize do so.
Then all of you compare your results and actually SEE what is better, or
which parts of what might be incorporated into whatever to make the best
synergistic solution.
BUT, just talking about how Treoretically F is better than M is better than
W, won't get you anywhere. You waste time, bandwidth and other people's
patience who are here to actually learn practical ways to use and devlop
applications around Lucene.
Infighting only discourages newbies. Besides, you can always discuss F .v.s
M OUTSIDE the list with eachother to your hearts content.
Just my 2 cents, no harm intended.
Curtis Seyfried
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Re: Forrestize docs
Posted by Jon Scott Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 2002/12/17 11:55 PM, "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
> Look who's talking, the one that told all jakarta developers to "quick,
> convert all to Maven". I just followed a mail posted here, I did not
> take initiatives myself.
That is because I still think that Maven is better than Forrest.
Forrest focused on replacing Anakia and Maven focused on doing what projects
actually need. Maybe I can't see the Forrest through the trees. =)
> I'm even more pissed off that someone made a project inside a project
> inside a project and keeps shoving it up people's nose.
Wake up Nicola. I am not even a developer on Maven.
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/team-list.html
> I'm copying this to the Forrest list so they know what you think of our
> project.
Thanks for taking half of the conversation out of context and then bringing
another group into this without even asking first. That is like having a
conversation on the street and then pulling the first person who walks by
and asking their opinion. How rude.
> The UI was changed because we didn't like it. You don't like it? Send in
> a patch with your skin. It's opensource, man.
Of course it is, man.
http://style.tigris.org
The fact of the matter is that UI was professionally developed and you went
and screwed it up because you 'didn't like it'. The left edges are on the
headings for a purpose which is to enclose blocks of data. You went and
removed that and now the enclosure isn't there. Go look at Scarab and then
compare that with what you have.
-jon
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