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Posted to user@uima.apache.org by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> on 2013/07/28 16:05:28 UTC
Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Dear Users,
The UIMA developers would like to be able to start using Java 6 language
features; of course this would require users to be running this level or later.
Currently, we require only Java 5 or later.
Java 5 from various vendors is either past end-of-life or approaching it
(meaning no updates, unless you have some special contracts).
See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html or
http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/
If we started requiring Java 6 or later, would this be an issue for you?
-Marshall Schor
Re: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Posted by Richard Eckart de Castilho <ri...@gmail.com>.
Am 31.07.2013 um 17:45 schrieb Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>:
> 1) Java 6 is pretty "uninteresting" as a change from 5; some people thought it
> wasn't enough of an improvement to warrant the change. They suggested either
> not moving, or moving to Java 7.
We (DKPro project family) may switch to Java 7 before long since some of the
dependencies we use are already using or upgrading to Java 7 (e.g. ark-tweet-nlp
and LanguageTool). I have a feeling that others will follow with the discussion
apparently going on across many projects.
Personally, even between Java 5 and Java 7, I don't see much gain. I'm really
looking forward to closures in Java 8 though.
Cheers,
-- Richard
Re: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
There's a similar discussion happening in Maven development.
Some interesting points of view being expressed there:
1) Java 6 is pretty "uninteresting" as a change from 5; some people thought it
wasn't enough of an improvement to warrant the change. They suggested either
not moving, or moving to Java 7.
(Java 8 has some really nice features --- but it's not out till next year...)
2) Others pointed out that many "government" users are still on Java 1.2 or 1.4
- they're very slow to upgrade. The rebuttal to this was - that would be fine,
since they would not have upgraded their Maven, either, and the old levels work
on the older Java versions.
Food for thought... -Marshall
On 7/28/2013 10:05 AM, Marshall Schor wrote:
> Dear Users,
>
> The UIMA developers would like to be able to start using Java 6 language
> features; of course this would require users to be running this level or later.
>
> Currently, we require only Java 5 or later.
>
> Java 5 from various vendors is either past end-of-life or approaching it
> (meaning no updates, unless you have some special contracts).
>
> See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html or
> http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/
>
> If we started requiring Java 6 or later, would this be an issue for you?
>
> -Marshall Schor
>
Re: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Posted by Steven Bethard <st...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
> The UIMA developers would like to be able to start using Java 6 language
> features; of course this would require users to be running this level or later.
>
> Currently, we require only Java 5 or later.
>
> Java 5 from various vendors is either past end-of-life or approaching it
> (meaning no updates, unless you have some special contracts).
>
> See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html or
> http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/
>
> If we started requiring Java 6 or later, would this be an issue for you?
ClearTK is considering bumping our required version to Java 7 in the
near future (https://code.google.com/p/cleartk/issues/detail?id=354)
so we're definitely okay with UIMA requiring Java 6.
Steve
Re: AW: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Posted by Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net>.
Same here, our own stuff relies on higher versions of Java anyway.
Jens
On 07/29/2013 07:55 AM,
Armin.Wegner@bka.bund.de wrote:
> No, not for me. You can even switch to Java 7.
>
> Armin
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Marshall Schor [mailto:msa@schor.com]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Juli 2013 16:05
> An: uima-user
> Betreff: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
>
> Dear Users,
>
> The UIMA developers would like to be able to start using Java 6 language features; of course this would require users to be running this level or later.
>
> Currently, we require only Java 5 or later.
>
> Java 5 from various vendors is either past end-of-life or approaching it (meaning no updates, unless you have some special contracts).
>
> See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html or http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/
>
> If we started requiring Java 6 or later, would this be an issue for you?
>
> -Marshall Schor
>
AW: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Posted by Ar...@bka.bund.de.
No, not for me. You can even switch to Java 7.
Armin
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Marshall Schor [mailto:msa@schor.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Juli 2013 16:05
An: uima-user
Betreff: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Dear Users,
The UIMA developers would like to be able to start using Java 6 language features; of course this would require users to be running this level or later.
Currently, we require only Java 5 or later.
Java 5 from various vendors is either past end-of-life or approaching it (meaning no updates, unless you have some special contracts).
See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html or http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/
If we started requiring Java 6 or later, would this be an issue for you?
-Marshall Schor
Re: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Posted by Paul Dhaliwal <su...@gmail.com>.
No, I would welcome java 6.
On Jul 28, 2013 7:06 AM, "Marshall Schor" <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
> Dear Users,
>
> The UIMA developers would like to be able to start using Java 6 language
> features; of course this would require users to be running this level or
> later.
>
> Currently, we require only Java 5 or later.
>
> Java 5 from various vendors is either past end-of-life or approaching it
> (meaning no updates, unless you have some special contracts).
>
> See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html or
> http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/
>
> If we started requiring Java 6 or later, would this be an issue for you?
>
> -Marshall Schor
>
Re: Java level prerequsite upgrade?
Posted by "John David Osborne (Campus)" <oz...@uab.edu>.
Java 6 would be fine for us.
-John
On 7/28/13 9:05 AM, "Marshall Schor" <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
>Dear Users,
>
>The UIMA developers would like to be able to start using Java 6 language
>features; of course this would require users to be running this level or
>later.
>
>Currently, we require only Java 5 or later.
>
>Java 5 from various vendors is either past end-of-life or approaching it
>(meaning no updates, unless you have some special contracts).
>
>See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html or
>http://www.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/
>
>If we started requiring Java 6 or later, would this be an issue for you?
>
>-Marshall Schor