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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Cody Miller <co...@live.com> on 2012/03/30 15:01:54 UTC
And idea for OOo
Hello,
I have a really great idea for the OpenOffice Community. Almost every Office Suite has its own storage house (cloud drive) nowadays, and I was thinking that OOo should have its own too. But I was also thinking that not only could you retrieve your documents, but even edit them while your in the storage as well. That way, you could take and edit your documents wherever you are. This would be a huge step for the OOo community, and it may increase our popularity if accomplished. And if the popularity increase, that will mean more developers where be really to help worldwide. Please take my idea into consideration.
Thanks,
Cmiller
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Hennie Potgieter <pb...@gmail.com>.
Please cancel all emails to me.
Tkanks
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2012-03-30 10:16 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Larry Gusaas<larry.gusaas@gmail.com
> >**
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Quit trying to weasel out of admitting you made an erroneous statement.
> >>>
> >>> Having a Windows only statement means the point #1 is not done and not
> >>> available for all platforms. Your statement indicates you don't care
> >>> about
> >>> Mac or Linux users. Of course, you do work for IBM.
> >>>
> >> Take a chill pill Larry. I gave just one example. I could have easily
> >> given another one, any of these, that are cross platform and allows
> cloud
> >> storage of documents:
> >>
> >> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**ooo2gd<
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooo2gd>
> >>
> >> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**smartcloud<
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/smartcloud>
> >>
> >> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**
> >> alfrescoconnector<
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/alfrescoconnector>
> >>
> >
> > Good. You finally gave an useful response. Why didn't you do so in your
> > first response to me?
> >
> >
> >
> I was not responding to you. i was responding to Cody Miller who asked the
> original question.
>
>
>
> > The fact remains that you are merely being argumentative, and have
> nothing
> >> to offer to this conversation.
> >>
> >
> > No I wasn't. I finally get an useful response to my original post. And
> > still you belittle me for pointing out the inadequacies of your original
> > post.
> >
> >
> Again, yours was not the original post. It was Cody's.
>
> Imagine we changed the topic slightly:
>
> Cody: I have a really great idea. How about a machine that flies through
> the air and carries people from one city to another?
>
> Rob: It is easy, and in fact is already done, via airplanes. For example,
> this airplane: www.lufthansa.com
>
> Larry: It is not already done. I checked the Lufthansa website and they do
> not fly to my city. Rob, your statement was inaccurate, Quit trying to
> weasel out of admitting you made an erroneous statement. Your statement
> indicates you don't care about small Canadian cities. Of course, you do
> work for IBM.
>
> Exactly parallel to above, but do you see how inappropriate such a response
> would be seen?
>
> The verb "to done" and its participle "done" is a very flexible word in
> English. It has dozens of meanings listed in any good dictionary. Its
> subtitles and idioms can vex even native English speakers. So I have a lot
> of sympathy for how hard it must be for non-native speakers.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> >
> > --
> > ______________________________**___
> >
> > Larry I. Gusaas
> > Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> > Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> > "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> > theirs." - Edgard Varese
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On 2012-03-31 5:55 AM Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>**
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good. You finally gave an useful response. Why didn't you do so in your
>>> first response to me?
>>>
>> I was not responding to you. i was responding to Cody Miller who asked the
>> original question.
>>
>
> Your first response to me was not to me? God, how dense can you be? I
> pointed out the fallacy in your response to the OP and you repeatedly gave
> meaningless responses. When I acknowledge that you finally gave an useful
> response you once again start belittling me.
>
> Do you have a PhD in obfuscation, alienation, and condescension? Is your
> ego so big you can't admit your response was inadequate?
>
>
Larry, if you were confused by my post or thought it was inadequate then I
sincerely apologize for my inability to make things clear to you. Feel
free to ask questions in the future if you do not understand something I
write, on list or off.
Regards,
-Rob
> Do you always need to have the last word? If you respond to this, you will
> have it.
>
>
> --
> ______________________________**___
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2012-03-31 5:55 AM Rob Weir wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Good. You finally gave an useful response. Why didn't you do so in your
>> first response to me?
> I was not responding to you. i was responding to Cody Miller who asked the
> original question.
Your first response to me was not to me? God, how dense can you be? I pointed out the fallacy
in your response to the OP and you repeatedly gave meaningless responses. When I acknowledge
that you finally gave an useful response you once again start belittling me.
Do you have a PhD in obfuscation, alienation, and condescension? Is your ego so big you can't
admit your response was inadequate?
Do you always need to have the last word? If you respond to this, you will have it.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On 2012-03-30 10:16 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>**
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quit trying to weasel out of admitting you made an erroneous statement.
>>>
>>> Having a Windows only statement means the point #1 is not done and not
>>> available for all platforms. Your statement indicates you don't care
>>> about
>>> Mac or Linux users. Of course, you do work for IBM.
>>>
>> Take a chill pill Larry. I gave just one example. I could have easily
>> given another one, any of these, that are cross platform and allows cloud
>> storage of documents:
>>
>> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**ooo2gd<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooo2gd>
>>
>> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**smartcloud<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/smartcloud>
>>
>> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**
>> alfrescoconnector<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/alfrescoconnector>
>>
>
> Good. You finally gave an useful response. Why didn't you do so in your
> first response to me?
>
>
>
I was not responding to you. i was responding to Cody Miller who asked the
original question.
> The fact remains that you are merely being argumentative, and have nothing
>> to offer to this conversation.
>>
>
> No I wasn't. I finally get an useful response to my original post. And
> still you belittle me for pointing out the inadequacies of your original
> post.
>
>
Again, yours was not the original post. It was Cody's.
Imagine we changed the topic slightly:
Cody: I have a really great idea. How about a machine that flies through
the air and carries people from one city to another?
Rob: It is easy, and in fact is already done, via airplanes. For example,
this airplane: www.lufthansa.com
Larry: It is not already done. I checked the Lufthansa website and they do
not fly to my city. Rob, your statement was inaccurate, Quit trying to
weasel out of admitting you made an erroneous statement. Your statement
indicates you don't care about small Canadian cities. Of course, you do
work for IBM.
Exactly parallel to above, but do you see how inappropriate such a response
would be seen?
The verb "to done" and its participle "done" is a very flexible word in
English. It has dozens of meanings listed in any good dictionary. Its
subtitles and idioms can vex even native English speakers. So I have a lot
of sympathy for how hard it must be for non-native speakers.
-Rob
>
> --
> ______________________________**___
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2012-03-30 10:16 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Quit trying to weasel out of admitting you made an erroneous statement.
>> Having a Windows only statement means the point #1 is not done and not
>> available for all platforms. Your statement indicates you don't care about
>> Mac or Linux users. Of course, you do work for IBM.
> Take a chill pill Larry. I gave just one example. I could have easily
> given another one, any of these, that are cross platform and allows cloud
> storage of documents:
>
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooo2gd
>
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/smartcloud
>
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/alfrescoconnector
Good. You finally gave an useful response. Why didn't you do so in your first response to me?
> The fact remains that you are merely being argumentative, and have nothing
> to offer to this conversation.
No I wasn't. I finally get an useful response to my original post. And still you belittle me
for pointing out the inadequacies of your original post.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On 2012-03-30 7:56 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>**
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just corrected your inaccurate statement. "#1 is easy, and in fact is
>>> already done, via extensions."
>>>
>> The extension exists. I linked to it. The fact that a plugin only
>> supports Windows does not mean that it does not exist.
>>
> I never said it doesn't exist. Your statement "#1 is easy, and in fact is
> already done" implies that the extension is for all platforms. In fact,
> all the extensions I have installed are for all platforms. Since this
> extension is only for Windows it is obvious that #1 is not done.
>
>
>
> It only means that the author thought it sufficient to support 90% of
>> the OpenOffice users who
>> run Windows. In any case, it adequately demonstrates the point that
>> cloud storage can be handled by 3rd parties.
>>
>
> Quit trying to weasel out of admitting you made an erroneous statement.
> Having a Windows only statement means the point #1 is not done and not
> available for all platforms. Your statement indicates you don't care about
> Mac or Linux users. Of course, you do work for IBM.
>
>
Take a chill pill Larry. I gave just one example. I could have easily
given another one, any of these, that are cross platform and allows cloud
storage of documents:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooo2gd
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/smartcloud
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/alfrescoconnector
The fact remains that you are merely being argumentative, and have nothing
to offer to this conversation.
-Rob
> --
> ______________________________**___
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2012-03-30 7:56 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> I just corrected your inaccurate statement. "#1 is easy, and in fact is
>> already done, via extensions."
> The extension exists. I linked to it. The fact that a plugin only
> supports Windows does not mean that it does not exist.
I never said it doesn't exist. Your statement "#1 is easy, and in fact is
already done" implies that the extension is for all platforms. In fact, all the extensions I
have installed are for all platforms. Since this extension is only for Windows it is obvious
that #1 is not done.
> It only means that the author thought it sufficient to support 90% of the OpenOffice users who
> run Windows. In any case, it adequately demonstrates the point that cloud storage can be handled by 3rd parties.
Quit trying to weasel out of admitting you made an erroneous statement. Having a Windows only
statement means the point #1 is not done and not available for all platforms. Your statement
indicates you don't care about Mac or Linux users. Of course, you do work for IBM.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 2012-03-30 3:45 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> I think you are just being argumentative, looking at the microscopic
>> details without understanding the generality of the user's question or my
>> response.
>>
>
> I just responded to your question. "I don't see any technical reason why
> one could not code the same thing on other platforms. Do you?"
>
>
> If you disagree with my general statement that 3rd parties are best
>> positioned to provide cloud storage for OpenOffice, then I'd love to hear
>> your arguments. If you are just going to correct my punctuation then you
>> might seek out another form of entertainment for your Friday evening.
>>
>
> I just corrected your inaccurate statement. "#1 is easy, and in fact is
> already done, via extensions."
>
>
The extension exists. I linked to it. The fact that a plugin only
supports Windows does not mean that it does not exist. It only means that
the author thought it sufficient to support 90% of the OpenOffice users who
run Windows. In any case, it adequately demonstrates the point that cloud
storage can be handled by 3rd parties.
> I did not correct any of your punctuation. Why did you get so defensive
> when someone corrects your inaccurate statement? Actually, don't bother to
> answer. I have better things to do.
>
>
>
> --
> ______________________________**___
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2012-03-30 3:45 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> I think you are just being argumentative, looking at the microscopic
> details without understanding the generality of the user's question or my
> response.
I just responded to your question. "I don't see any technical reason why one could not code the
same thing on other platforms. Do you?"
> If you disagree with my general statement that 3rd parties are best
> positioned to provide cloud storage for OpenOffice, then I'd love to hear
> your arguments. If you are just going to correct my punctuation then you
> might seek out another form of entertainment for your Friday evening.
I just corrected your inaccurate statement. "#1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via
extensions."
I did not correct any of your punctuation. Why did you get so defensive when someone corrects
your inaccurate statement? Actually, don't bother to answer. I have better things to do.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On 2012-03-30 11:50 AM Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>**
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2012-03-30 8:00 AM Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>> #1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via extensions. For example,
>>>> this
>>>> extension allows the user to save/retrieve documents to a variety of
>>>> cloud
>>>> storage providers, including Amazon, DropBox, Google, SkyDrive, etc:
>>>>
>>>> http://extensions.services.**o**penoffice.org/en/project/****MultiCloud<http://openoffice.org/en/project/**MultiCloud>
>>>> <http://extensions.**services.openoffice.org/en/**project/MultiCloud<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> It is not already done.That extension is Windows only.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see any technical reason why one could not code the same thing
>> on
>> other platforms. Do you?
>>
>
> I 'm not a developer so I don't know. In the comments section of the link
> you posted there are requests for Mac and Linux versions going back to two
> years ago. The developer of the extension has not done so, nor have they
> responded to the suggestion.
>
>
OK. I am a programmer and I say it is easy. Cloud storage providers like
Amazon provide a REST API that is platform neutral. One should be able to
write an extension that works on any OS that would be able to store
documents there.
> As I said, contrary to your initial statement "#1 is easy, and in fact is
> already done, via extensions" , this is not done.
>
>
>
I think you are just being argumentative, looking at the microscopic
details without understanding the generality of the user's question or my
response.
If you disagree with my general statement that 3rd parties are best
positioned to provide cloud storage for OpenOffice, then I'd love to hear
your arguments. If you are just going to correct my punctuation then you
might seek out another form of entertainment for your Friday evening.
-Rob
> --
> ______________________________**___
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2012-03-30 11:50 AM Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 2012-03-30 8:00 AM Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> #1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via extensions. For example,
>>> this
>>> extension allows the user to save/retrieve documents to a variety of cloud
>>> storage providers, including Amazon, DropBox, Google, SkyDrive, etc:
>>>
>>> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**MultiCloud<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud>
>>>
>> It is not already done.That extension is Windows only.
>>
>>
> I don't see any technical reason why one could not code the same thing on
> other platforms. Do you?
I 'm not a developer so I don't know. In the comments section of the link you posted there are
requests for Mac and Linux versions going back to two years ago. The developer of the extension
has not done so, nor have they responded to the suggestion.
As I said, contrary to your initial statement "#1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via
extensions" , this is not done.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 2012-03-30 8:00 AM Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> #1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via extensions. For example,
>> this
>> extension allows the user to save/retrieve documents to a variety of cloud
>> storage providers, including Amazon, DropBox, Google, SkyDrive, etc:
>>
>> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**MultiCloud<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud>
>>
>
> It is not already done.That extension is Windows only.
>
>
I don't see any technical reason why one could not code the same thing on
other platforms. Do you?
-Rob
> --
> ______________________________**___
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2012-03-30 8:00 AM Rob Weir wrote:
> #1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via extensions. For example, this
> extension allows the user to save/retrieve documents to a variety of cloud
> storage providers, including Amazon, DropBox, Google, SkyDrive, etc:
>
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud
It is not already done.That extension is Windows only.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Yue Helen wrote:
> Cody has one
> more great idea which is to edit the document directly in the storage...I
> think he is talking about a web-based editor solution based on OO.
> Have we had such discussion before?
There is this prototype, and it's amazing to think that it is from 4
years ago...
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF@WWW
This video shows it in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI0AEJkotzM&fmt=6
Then an OpenOffice.org "project" was started for it, but it has always
been silent. It used to live at http://odf-at-www.openoffice.org and be
an "incubator project" (unrelated to the Apache Incubator) but I can't
see it at http://www.openoffice.org/projects/incubator.html
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Yue Helen <he...@gmail.com>.
Besides the two solutions to use AOO together with storage, Cody has one
more great idea which is to edit the document directly in the storage...I
think he is talking about a web-based editor solution based on OO.
Have we had such discussion before?
Helen
2012/3/30 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Cody Miller <codymiller1996@live.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a really great idea for the OpenOffice Community. Almost every
> > Office Suite has its own storage house (cloud drive) nowadays, and I was
> > thinking that OOo should have its own too. But I was also thinking that
> not
> > only could you retrieve your documents, but even edit them while your in
> > the storage as well. That way, you could take and edit your documents
> > wherever you are. This would be a huge step for the OOo community, and it
> > may increase our popularity if accomplished. And if the popularity
> > increase, that will mean more developers where be really to help
> worldwide.
> > Please take my idea into consideration.
> >
> >
> Two things to consider:
>
> 1) Enabling OpenOffice for use with existing cloud storage
>
> 2) Enabling an OpenOffice cloud
>
>
> #1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via extensions. For example, this
> extension allows the user to save/retrieve documents to a variety of cloud
> storage providers, including Amazon, DropBox, Google, SkyDrive, etc:
>
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud
>
> #2 is harder. The main issue is that open source projects are run by
> volunteers. What we can offer is our time, our skills, our labor. But
> having our own cloud requires more than that. It requires storage,
> bandwidth, servers,and additional security and privacy concerns, including
> different laws in different countries, needing to respond to law
> enforcement authorities when they demand access, etc. This all takes us
> further away from our core mission, which is to provide free software to
> the public.
>
> So I think we should focus on #1, enabling OpenOffice to work with cloud
> providers. But we can then rely on 3rd parties -- the broader ecosystem --
> to develop and maintain the cloud storage options.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cmiller
>
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Cody Miller <co...@live.com>wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a really great idea for the OpenOffice Community. Almost every
> Office Suite has its own storage house (cloud drive) nowadays, and I was
> thinking that OOo should have its own too. But I was also thinking that not
> only could you retrieve your documents, but even edit them while your in
> the storage as well. That way, you could take and edit your documents
> wherever you are. This would be a huge step for the OOo community, and it
> may increase our popularity if accomplished. And if the popularity
> increase, that will mean more developers where be really to help worldwide.
> Please take my idea into consideration.
>
>
Two things to consider:
1) Enabling OpenOffice for use with existing cloud storage
2) Enabling an OpenOffice cloud
#1 is easy, and in fact is already done, via extensions. For example, this
extension allows the user to save/retrieve documents to a variety of cloud
storage providers, including Amazon, DropBox, Google, SkyDrive, etc:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud
#2 is harder. The main issue is that open source projects are run by
volunteers. What we can offer is our time, our skills, our labor. But
having our own cloud requires more than that. It requires storage,
bandwidth, servers,and additional security and privacy concerns, including
different laws in different countries, needing to respond to law
enforcement authorities when they demand access, etc. This all takes us
further away from our core mission, which is to provide free software to
the public.
So I think we should focus on #1, enabling OpenOffice to work with cloud
providers. But we can then rely on 3rd parties -- the broader ecosystem --
to develop and maintain the cloud storage options.
-Rob
> Thanks,
>
> Cmiller
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Wolf Halton <wo...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:20 AM, RGB ES wrote:
>
> > El día 3 de abril de 2012 15:03, Wolf Halton <wo...@gmail.com>
> escribió:
> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Cody Miller <codymiller1996@live.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I have a really great idea for the OpenOffice Community. Almost every
> >>> Office Suite has its own storage house (cloud drive) nowadays, and I
> was
> >>> thinking that OOo should have its own too. But I was also thinking
> that not
> >>> only could you retrieve your documents, but even edit them while your
> in
> >>> the storage as well. That way, you could take and edit your documents
> >>> wherever you are. This would be a huge step for the OOo community, and
> it
> >>> may increase our popularity if accomplished. And if the popularity
> >>> increase, that will mean more developers where be really to help
> worldwide.
> >>> Please take my idea into consideration.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Cmiller
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Cody,
> >>
> >> I like the idea of web-based open-office editing and of cloud storage
> for
> >> openoffice. Rob had a good point that there are hard costs involved
> with
> >> web-based clouds of our own, but there is no reason that we cannot do a
> >> feasibility study of the idea. Knowing "the cost" is more powerful than
> >> merely knowing there is "a cost." (IMHO)
> >>
> >> Wolf
> >>
> >> --
> >> This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com
> >> Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
> >
> > There is an open source project called OwnCloud aimed to provide cloud
> services:
> >
> > http://owncloud.org/
> >
> > No idea how it works, though: I just read about it on planetKDE...
>
> The following was just announced:
>
>
> http://www.citrix.com/English/NE/news/news.asp?newsID=2323072&ntref=hp_promo_apache
>
> Citrix project -> Apache Incubator!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> >
> > Ricardo
>
>
This is interesting news! I read a short piece about them changing the
license of their opensource cloud, but this is good news for the
feasibility of an openoffice extension to our own cloud.
-Wolf
--
This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com
Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:20 AM, RGB ES wrote:
> El día 3 de abril de 2012 15:03, Wolf Halton <wo...@gmail.com> escribió:
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Cody Miller <co...@live.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have a really great idea for the OpenOffice Community. Almost every
>>> Office Suite has its own storage house (cloud drive) nowadays, and I was
>>> thinking that OOo should have its own too. But I was also thinking that not
>>> only could you retrieve your documents, but even edit them while your in
>>> the storage as well. That way, you could take and edit your documents
>>> wherever you are. This would be a huge step for the OOo community, and it
>>> may increase our popularity if accomplished. And if the popularity
>>> increase, that will mean more developers where be really to help worldwide.
>>> Please take my idea into consideration.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Cmiller
>>
>>
>> Hi Cody,
>>
>> I like the idea of web-based open-office editing and of cloud storage for
>> openoffice. Rob had a good point that there are hard costs involved with
>> web-based clouds of our own, but there is no reason that we cannot do a
>> feasibility study of the idea. Knowing "the cost" is more powerful than
>> merely knowing there is "a cost." (IMHO)
>>
>> Wolf
>>
>> --
>> This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com
>> Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
>
> There is an open source project called OwnCloud aimed to provide cloud services:
>
> http://owncloud.org/
>
> No idea how it works, though: I just read about it on planetKDE...
The following was just announced:
http://www.citrix.com/English/NE/news/news.asp?newsID=2323072&ntref=hp_promo_apache
Citrix project -> Apache Incubator!
Regards,
Dave
>
> Ricardo
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
El día 3 de abril de 2012 15:03, Wolf Halton <wo...@gmail.com> escribió:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Cody Miller <co...@live.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a really great idea for the OpenOffice Community. Almost every
>> Office Suite has its own storage house (cloud drive) nowadays, and I was
>> thinking that OOo should have its own too. But I was also thinking that not
>> only could you retrieve your documents, but even edit them while your in
>> the storage as well. That way, you could take and edit your documents
>> wherever you are. This would be a huge step for the OOo community, and it
>> may increase our popularity if accomplished. And if the popularity
>> increase, that will mean more developers where be really to help worldwide.
>> Please take my idea into consideration.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cmiller
>
>
> Hi Cody,
>
> I like the idea of web-based open-office editing and of cloud storage for
> openoffice. Rob had a good point that there are hard costs involved with
> web-based clouds of our own, but there is no reason that we cannot do a
> feasibility study of the idea. Knowing "the cost" is more powerful than
> merely knowing there is "a cost." (IMHO)
>
> Wolf
>
> --
> This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com
> Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
There is an open source project called OwnCloud aimed to provide cloud services:
http://owncloud.org/
No idea how it works, though: I just read about it on planetKDE...
Ricardo
Re: And idea for OOo
Posted by Wolf Halton <wo...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Cody Miller <co...@live.com>wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a really great idea for the OpenOffice Community. Almost every
> Office Suite has its own storage house (cloud drive) nowadays, and I was
> thinking that OOo should have its own too. But I was also thinking that not
> only could you retrieve your documents, but even edit them while your in
> the storage as well. That way, you could take and edit your documents
> wherever you are. This would be a huge step for the OOo community, and it
> may increase our popularity if accomplished. And if the popularity
> increase, that will mean more developers where be really to help worldwide.
> Please take my idea into consideration.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cmiller
Hi Cody,
I like the idea of web-based open-office editing and of cloud storage for
openoffice. Rob had a good point that there are hard costs involved with
web-based clouds of our own, but there is no reason that we cannot do a
feasibility study of the idea. Knowing "the cost" is more powerful than
merely knowing there is "a cost." (IMHO)
Wolf
--
This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com
Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org