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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Al B <al...@hotmail.com> on 2015/07/30 20:21:35 UTC

Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

I have 2 accounts:
myaccount@gmail.commyaccount@hotmail.com
I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been well.  Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail account, so that I only have to check one account.  Is there anyway to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by myaccount@hotmail.com?
blacklist_from      spam@spam.com
An email I receive from spam@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from myaccount@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. 
Is there anyway around this?  If so, can you point me in the right direction.
Thanks 		 	   		  

Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>.
On 30.07.15 18:27, Al B wrote:
>I wasn't aware that Hotmail's filters work when you have forwarding turned
> on.  I also would prefer to have all my blacklist in one place instead of
> having maintain 2 list.

it's bad idea to let spam being forwarded and blocked on the destination.
I wouldn't wonder if gmail would start marking mail forwarded through your
account as spam...

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RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by Al B <al...@hotmail.com>.
I wasn't aware that Hotmail's filters work when you have forwarding turned on.  I also would prefer to have all my blacklist in one place instead of having maintain 2 list.

Subject: Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
From: bret.miller@gci.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:33:23 -0700


  
    
  
  
    Why not just add the blocked email address to the blocked sender
    list for your Hotmail account?

    

    On 7/30/2015 12:28 PM, RW wrote:

    
    
      On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
Al B wrote:


      
        I have 2 accounts:
myaccount@gmail.commyaccount@hotmail.com
I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
well.  Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
account, so that I only have to check one account.  Is there anyway
to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
myaccount@hotmail.com? blacklist_from      spam@spam.com An email I
receive from spam@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same
email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
myaccount@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
this?

      
      Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
automatically.




    
    
 		 	   		  

Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by Bret Miller <br...@gci.org>.
Why not just add the blocked email address to the blocked sender list 
for your Hotmail account?

On 7/30/2015 12:28 PM, RW wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
> Al B wrote:
>
>> I have 2 accounts:
>> myaccount@gmail.commyaccount@hotmail.com
>> I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
>> well.  Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
>> account, so that I only have to check one account.  Is there anyway
>> to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
>> myaccount@hotmail.com? blacklist_from      spam@spam.com An email I
>> receive from spam@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
>> identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same
>> email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
>> myaccount@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
>> this?
> Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
> only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
> automatically.
>
>
>


RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by Al B <al...@hotmail.com>.
That would have been a lot easier........

> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:56:39 -0700
> From: jhardin@impsec.org
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender
> 
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, John Hardin wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Al B wrote:
> >
> >>  It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below. I
> >>  think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to strip
> >>  the forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.
> >
> > It might be easier to strip the "Resent-From: myaccount@hotmail.com" 
> > header...
> 
> ...or alter it to X-Resent-From: if you don't want to lose the history 
> completely...
> 
> -- 
>   John Hardin KA7OHZ                    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
>   jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174     pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
>   key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>    The fetters imposed on liberty at home have ever been forged out
>    of the weapons provided for defense against real, pretended, or
>    imaginary dangers from abroad.               -- James Madison, 1799
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   6 days until the 280th anniversary of John Peter Zenger's acquittal
 		 	   		  

RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, John Hardin wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Al B wrote:
>
>>  It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below. I
>>  think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to strip
>>  the forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.
>
> It might be easier to strip the "Resent-From: myaccount@hotmail.com" 
> header...

...or alter it to X-Resent-From: if you don't want to lose the history 
completely...

-- 
  John Hardin KA7OHZ                    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
  jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174     pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
  key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
   The fetters imposed on liberty at home have ever been forged out
   of the weapons provided for defense against real, pretended, or
   imaginary dangers from abroad.               -- James Madison, 1799
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
  6 days until the 280th anniversary of John Peter Zenger's acquittal

RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Al B wrote:

> It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below. 
> I think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to 
> strip the forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.

It might be easier to strip the "Resent-From: myaccount@hotmail.com" 
header...

> Delivered-To: myaccount@gmail.com
> Received: by 10.76.62.4 with SMTP id u4csp713921oar; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17
> -0700 (PDT)
> X-Received: by 10.66.222.161 with SMTP id qn1mr111009366pac.66.1438280657527;
> Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
> Return-Path: <my...@hotmail.com>
> Received: from COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (col004-omc4s16.hotmail.com.
> [65.55.34.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
> ok5si4006717pdb.157.2015.07.30.11.24.17 for <my...@gmail.com>
> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jul 2015
> 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of myaccount@hotmail.com designates
> 65.55.34.218 as permitted sender) client-ip=65.55.34.218;
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of
> myaccount@hotmail.com designates 65.55.34.218 as permitted sender)
> smtp.mail=myaccount@hotmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE)
> header.from=hotmail.com
> Received: from COL004-MC3F33.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.199]) by
> COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft
> SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
> Resent-Message-ID: <CO...@phx.gbl>
> Resent-To: myaccount@gmail.com
> Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
> Resent-From: myaccount@hotmail.com
> X-HM-Routing-Path: +tYAoiJsCIZZ+5v4HRyIibLIG7ufv4KPyAQNAnIf34/uop6v2JKIAU5O09+6m5C1q04HwYX26tsK7oE6J82ofaue6IycEJm0994KgOCqqg3M+s7+G4+eG11m9nPUmd2BIpp1RNtTW0n4bZeN+lMudft9uWiOpe4snBAWz438JUKMr9zvIodFWE/LjRZPJUvL9la5i7Ny3v4=
>
>> Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
>> only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
>> automatically.

-- 
  John Hardin KA7OHZ                    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
  jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174     pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
  key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
   The fetters imposed on liberty at home have ever been forged out
   of the weapons provided for defense against real, pretended, or
   imaginary dangers from abroad.               -- James Madison, 1799
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
  6 days until the 280th anniversary of John Peter Zenger's acquittal

RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by Al B <al...@hotmail.com>.
It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below.  I think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to strip the forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.

Delivered-To: myaccount@gmail.com
Received: by 10.76.62.4 with SMTP id u4csp713921oar; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17
 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.66.222.161 with SMTP id qn1mr111009366pac.66.1438280657527;
 Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <my...@hotmail.com>
Received: from COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (col004-omc4s16.hotmail.com.
 [65.55.34.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
 ok5si4006717pdb.157.2015.07.30.11.24.17 for <my...@gmail.com>
 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jul 2015
 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of myaccount@hotmail.com designates
 65.55.34.218 as permitted sender) client-ip=65.55.34.218;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of
 myaccount@hotmail.com designates 65.55.34.218 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=myaccount@hotmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE)
 header.from=hotmail.com
Received: from COL004-MC3F33.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.199]) by
 COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft
 SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
Resent-Message-ID: <CO...@phx.gbl>
Resent-To: myaccount@gmail.com
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
Resent-From: myaccount@hotmail.com
X-HM-Routing-Path: +tYAoiJsCIZZ+5v4HRyIibLIG7ufv4KPyAQNAnIf34/uop6v2JKIAU5O09+6m5C1q04HwYX26tsK7oE6J82ofaue6IycEJm0994KgOCqqg3M+s7+G4+eG11m9nPUmd2BIpp1RNtTW0n4bZeN+lMudft9uWiOpe4snBAWz438JUKMr9zvIodFWE/LjRZPJUvL9la5i7Ny3v4=

> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:28:58 +0100
> From: rwmaillists@googlemail.com
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender
> 
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
> Al B wrote:
> 
> > I have 2 accounts:
> > myaccount@gmail.commyaccount@hotmail.com
> > I've been using Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
> > well. Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
> > account, so that I only have to check one account. Is there anyway
> > to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
> > myaccount@hotmail.com? blacklist_from spam@spam.com An email I
> > receive from spam@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
> > identified as being from a blacklisted sender. However, the same
> > email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
> > myaccount@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
> > this?
> 
> Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
> only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
> automatically.
> 
> 
> 
 		 	   		  

Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
Al B wrote:

> I have 2 accounts:
> myaccount@gmail.commyaccount@hotmail.com
> I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
> well.  Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
> account, so that I only have to check one account.  Is there anyway
> to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
> myaccount@hotmail.com? blacklist_from      spam@spam.com An email I
> receive from spam@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
> identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same
> email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
> myaccount@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
> this?

Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
automatically.