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James Mailbox Directories
Hi guys :)
Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>.
Read this page: https://james.staged.apache.org/james-project/3.9.0/servers/distributed/architecture/index.html
--
Best regards,
Benoit TELLIER
General manager of Linagora VIETNAM.
Product owner for Team-Mail product.
Chairman of the Apache James project.
Mail: btellier@linagora.com
Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
On Feb 7, 2025 2:06 PM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>So i need for example 1 James server and 3 Cassandra servers and NOT use S3?
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 19:57 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Distributed app can be used with multiple servers in cluster mode.
>
> Big catch with cassandra-james is that it do not use and object store like
> S3. Storing blobs in a metadata database is a big antipattern. Use at your
> own risks.
> On 07/02/2025 13:55, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>
> Well makes sense, so distributed app can be used within one server? Do i
> need install Cassandra separately or it embedded?
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 19:52 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
>> Cassandra APP is kinda deprecated as it do not support multiple james
>> servers...
>> On 07/02/2025 13:19, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>
>>
>> dlcdn.apache.org/james/server/3.8.2/james-server-distributed-guice.zip
>> This one? What difference with Cassandra app?
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:46 Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version uses
>>> Cassandra if i remember correctly. Its good and stable? As i see pretty old
>>> implementation. Cassandra project looks good. Tell me your thoughts about
>>> pg vs distributed please if u have time :)
>>>
>>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>
>>>> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
>>>>
>>>> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
>>>> You would need to get your hand on the distributed implementation. Or
>>>> get your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG native implementation.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>
>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>>> product.
>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>>>
>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
>>>> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
>>>> that?james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
>>>>
>>>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > This mail user agent is jmap only
>>>> >
>>>> > On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>>> > > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
>>>> > > also have russian translation
>>>> > >
>>>> > > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Thanks for the interest.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
>>>> > property
>>>> > >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
>>>> > >> internationalisation based on this.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> --
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Best regards,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>>> > >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>>> > >> product.
>>>> > >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
>>>> > that
>>>> > >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
>>>> > >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
>>>> > everything i
>>>> > >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
>>>> > >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
>>>> > >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
>>>> > simple
>>>> > >> user create for jmap work?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Hello
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>>>> > >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> --
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Best regards,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>>> > >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>> product.
>>>> > >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
>>>> > linagora
>>>> > >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> --
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Best regards,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>> > >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>> > >>>> product.
>>>> > >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
>>>> > showing
>>>> > >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
>>>> > messages
>>>> > >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>>>> > >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
>>>> > and
>>>> > >>>> what showing?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Interesting question!
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>>>> > >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
>>>> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
>>>> > >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
>>>> > compliant
>>>> > >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Best regards,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>> > >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>> > >>>>> product.
>>>> > >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
>>>> > btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>>>>>> :
>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello,
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Benoit
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
So i need for example 1 James server and 3 Cassandra servers and NOT use S3?
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 19:57 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Distributed app can be used with multiple servers in cluster mode.
>
> Big catch with cassandra-james is that it do not use and object store like
> S3. Storing blobs in a metadata database is a big antipattern. Use at your
> own risks.
> On 07/02/2025 13:55, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>
> Well makes sense, so distributed app can be used within one server? Do i
> need install Cassandra separately or it embedded?
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 19:52 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
>> Cassandra APP is kinda deprecated as it do not support multiple james
>> servers...
>> On 07/02/2025 13:19, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://dlcdn.apache.org/james/server/3.8.2/james-server-distributed-guice.zip
>> This one? What difference with Cassandra app?
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:46 Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version uses
>>> Cassandra if i remember correctly. Its good and stable? As i see pretty old
>>> implementation. Cassandra project looks good. Tell me your thoughts about
>>> pg vs distributed please if u have time :)
>>>
>>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>
>>>> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
>>>>
>>>> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
>>>> You would need to get your hand on the distributed implementation. Or
>>>> get your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG native implementation.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>
>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>>> product.
>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>>>
>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
>>>> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
>>>> that?james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
>>>>
>>>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > This mail user agent is jmap only
>>>> >
>>>> > On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>>> > > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
>>>> > > also have russian translation
>>>> > >
>>>> > > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Thanks for the interest.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
>>>> > property
>>>> > >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
>>>> > >> internationalisation based on this.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> --
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Best regards,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>>> > >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>>> > >> product.
>>>> > >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
>>>> > that
>>>> > >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
>>>> > >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
>>>> > everything i
>>>> > >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
>>>> > >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
>>>> > >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
>>>> > simple
>>>> > >> user create for jmap work?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Hello
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>>>> > >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> --
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Best regards,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>>> > >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>> product.
>>>> > >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
>>>> > linagora
>>>> > >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> --
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Best regards,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>> > >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>> > >>>> product.
>>>> > >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
>>>> > showing
>>>> > >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
>>>> > messages
>>>> > >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>>>> > >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
>>>> > and
>>>> > >>>> what showing?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Interesting question!
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>>>> > >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
>>>> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
>>>> > >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
>>>> > compliant
>>>> > >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Best regards,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>> > >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>> > >>>>> product.
>>>> > >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
>>>> > btellier@linagora.com
>>>> > >>>>>>> :
>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello,
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Benoit
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by "btellier@linagora.com" <bt...@linagora.com>.
Distributed app can be used with multiple servers in cluster mode.
Big catch with cassandra-james is that it do not use and object store
like S3. Storing blobs in a metadata database is a big antipattern. Use
at your own risks.
On 07/02/2025 13:55, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>
> Well makes sense, so distributed app can be used within one server? Do
> i need install Cassandra separately or it embedded?
>
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 19:52 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
> Cassandra APP is kinda deprecated as it do not support multiple
> james servers...
>
> On 07/02/2025 13:19, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>
>> https://dlcdn.apache.org/james/server/3.8.2/james-server-distributed-guice.zip
>> This one? What difference with Cassandra app?
>>
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:46 Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version
>> uses Cassandra if i remember correctly. Its good and stable?
>> As i see pretty old implementation. Cassandra project looks
>> good. Tell me your thoughts about pg vs distributed please if
>> u have time :)
>>
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER
>> <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>
>> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the
>> users.
>>
>> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
>> You would need to get your hand on the distributed
>> implementation. Or get your hand on the soon-to-be-merged
>> PG native implementation.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>
>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>> Product owner for Team-Mail
>> <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter> product.
>> Chairman of the Apache James project
>> <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>
>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov
>> <pr...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
>> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
>> that?
>> james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity <https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity>
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>
>> > This mail user agent is jmap only
>> >
>> > On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> > > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
>> > > also have russian translation
>> > >
>> > > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>> > >
>> > >> Thanks for the interest.
>> > >>
>> > >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
>> > property
>> > >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
>> > >> internationalisation based on this.
>> > >>
>> > >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>
>> > >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn>>.
>> > >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>>
>> > >> product.
>> > >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/>>.
>> > >>
>> > >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>> > >>
>> > >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
>> > that
>> > >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
>> > >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
>> > everything i
>> > >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
>> > >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
>> > >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
>> > simple
>> > >> user create for jmap work?
>> > >>
>> > >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hello
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>> > >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best regards,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>>
>> > >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn>>.
>> > >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>> > >
>> > >>> product.
>> > >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/>>.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> > >>>
>> > >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
>> > linagora
>> > >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Best regards,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn> >.
>> > >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter> >
>> > >>>> product.
>> > >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/> >.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
>> > showing
>> > >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
>> > messages
>> > >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>> > >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
>> > and
>> > >>>> what showing?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Interesting question!
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
>> > >>>>>
>> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41 <https://github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>> > >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html> <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html> <
>> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
>> > >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
>> > compliant
>> > >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> --
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Best regards,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn> >.
>> > >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter> >
>> > >>>>> product.
>> > >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/> >.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
>> > btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>> Hello,
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Best regards
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Benoit
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
>> > >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>> > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
Well makes sense, so distributed app can be used within one server? Do i
need install Cassandra separately or it embedded?
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 19:52 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Cassandra APP is kinda deprecated as it do not support multiple james
> servers...
> On 07/02/2025 13:19, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>
>
> https://dlcdn.apache.org/james/server/3.8.2/james-server-distributed-guice.zip
> This one? What difference with Cassandra app?
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:46 Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
>
>> PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version uses
>> Cassandra if i remember correctly. Its good and stable? As i see pretty old
>> implementation. Cassandra project looks good. Tell me your thoughts about
>> pg vs distributed please if u have time :)
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>
>>> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
>>>
>>> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
>>> You would need to get your hand on the distributed implementation. Or
>>> get your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG native implementation.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>
>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>> product.
>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>>
>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
>>> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
>>> that?james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
>>>
>>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>
>>> > This mail user agent is jmap only
>>> >
>>> > On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>> > > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
>>> > > also have russian translation
>>> > >
>>> > > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Thanks for the interest.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
>>> > property
>>> > >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
>>> > >> internationalisation based on this.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Best regards,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>> > >>
>>> > >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>> > >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>> > >> product.
>>> > >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>> > >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
>>> > that
>>> > >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
>>> > >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
>>> > everything i
>>> > >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
>>> > >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
>>> > >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
>>> > simple
>>> > >> user create for jmap work?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Hello
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>>> > >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> --
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Best regards,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>> > >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
>>> > >
>>> > >>> product.
>>> > >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>> > >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
>>> > linagora
>>> > >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Best regards,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>> > >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>> > >>>> product.
>>> > >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>> > >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
>>> > showing
>>> > >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
>>> > messages
>>> > >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>>> > >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
>>> > and
>>> > >>>> what showing?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>> Interesting question!
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>>> > >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
>>> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
>>> > >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
>>> > compliant
>>> > >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Best regards,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>> > >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>> > >>>>> product.
>>> > >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>> > >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
>>> > btellier@linagora.com
>>> > >>>>>>> :
>>> > >>>>>>> Hello,
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Benoit
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
>>> > >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by "btellier@linagora.com" <bt...@linagora.com>.
Cassandra APP is kinda deprecated as it do not support multiple james
servers...
On 07/02/2025 13:19, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>
> https://dlcdn.apache.org/james/server/3.8.2/james-server-distributed-guice.zip
> This one? What difference with Cassandra app?
>
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:46 Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
>
> PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version uses
> Cassandra if i remember correctly. Its good and stable? As i see
> pretty old implementation. Cassandra project looks good. Tell me
> your thoughts about pg vs distributed please if u have time :)
>
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
>
> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
> You would need to get your hand on the distributed
> implementation. Or get your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG
> native implementation.
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail
> <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
> that?
> james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity <https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity>
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
> > This mail user agent is jmap only
> >
> > On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
> > > also have russian translation
> > >
> > > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for the interest.
> > >>
> > >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
> > property
> > >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
> > >> internationalisation based on this.
> > >>
> > >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>
> > >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn>>.
> > >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>>
> > >> product.
> > >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/>>.
> > >>
> > >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
> > that
> > >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
> > >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
> > everything i
> > >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
> > >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
> > >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
> > simple
> > >> user create for jmap work?
> > >>
> > >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello
> > >>>
> > >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
> > >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
> > >>>
> > >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
> > >>>
> > >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>>
> > >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn>>.
> > >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> > >
> > >>> product.
> > >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/>>.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> > >>>
> > >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
> > linagora
> > >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
> > >>>
> > >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>>>
> > >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn> >.
> > >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter> >
> > >>>> product.
> > >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/> >.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
> > showing
> > >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
> > messages
> > >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> > >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
> > and
> > >>>> what showing?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Interesting question!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
> > >>>>>
> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41 <https://github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> > >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html> <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html> <
> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
> > >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
> > compliant
> > >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn <https://linagora.vn> >.
> > >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter> >
> > >>>>> product.
> > >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ <https://james.apache.org/> >.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
> > btellier@linagora.com
> > >>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Best regards
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Benoit
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
> > >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> >
> >
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
https://dlcdn.apache.org/james/server/3.8.2/james-server-distributed-guice.zip
This one? What difference with Cassandra app?
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:46 Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
> PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version uses
> Cassandra if i remember correctly. Its good and stable? As i see pretty old
> implementation. Cassandra project looks good. Tell me your thoughts about
> pg vs distributed please if u have time :)
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
>> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
>>
>> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
>> You would need to get your hand on the distributed implementation. Or get
>> your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG native implementation.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>
>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>> product.
>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>
>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
>> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
>> that?
>> james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>
>> > This mail user agent is jmap only
>> >
>> > On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> > > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
>> > > also have russian translation
>> > >
>> > > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>> > >
>> > >> Thanks for the interest.
>> > >>
>> > >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
>> > property
>> > >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
>> > >> internationalisation based on this.
>> > >>
>> > >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>
>> > >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>> > >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>> > >> product.
>> > >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>> > >>
>> > >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>> > >>
>> > >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
>> > that
>> > >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
>> > >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
>> > everything i
>> > >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
>> > >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
>> > >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
>> > simple
>> > >> user create for jmap work?
>> > >>
>> > >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hello
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>> > >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best regards,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>>
>> > >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>> > >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
>> > >
>> > >>> product.
>> > >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> > >>>
>> > >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
>> > linagora
>> > >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Best regards,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>> > >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>> > >>>> product.
>> > >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
>> > showing
>> > >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
>> > messages
>> > >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>> > >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
>> > and
>> > >>>> what showing?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Interesting question!
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
>> > >>>>>
>> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>> > >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
>> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
>> > >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
>> > compliant
>> > >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> --
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Best regards,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>> > >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>> > >>>>> product.
>> > >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
>> > btellier@linagora.com
>> > >>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>> Hello,
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Best regards
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Benoit
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
>> > >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>> > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by "btellier@linagora.com" <bt...@linagora.com>.
Cassandra is stable and used in production.
PGSQL is well tested and soon to be used in production.
On 07/02/2025 12:46, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version uses Cassandra
> if i remember correctly. Its good and stable? As i see pretty old
> implementation. Cassandra project looks good. Tell me your thoughts about
> pg vs distributed please if u have time :)
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
>> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
>>
>> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
>> You would need to get your hand on the distributed implementation. Or get
>> your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG native implementation.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>
>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>> product.
>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>
>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
>> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
>> that?
>> james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>
>>> This mail user agent is jmap only
>>>
>>> On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>>> Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
>>>> also have russian translation
>>>>
>>>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
>>> property
>>>>> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
>>>>> internationalisation based on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>>
>>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>>>> product.
>>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
>>> that
>>>>> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
>>>>> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
>>> everything i
>>>>> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
>>>>> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
>>>>> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
>>> simple
>>>>> user create for jmap work?
>>>>>
>>>>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>>>>>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
>>>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
>>>>>> product.
>>>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
>>> linagora
>>>>>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
>>> showing
>>>>>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
>>> messages
>>>>>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>>>>>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
>>> and
>>>>>>> what showing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interesting question!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
>>>>>>>>
>>> github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>>>>>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
>>>>>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
>>> compliant
>>>>>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>>>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>>>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
>>> btellier@linagora.com
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Benoit
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
PostgreSQL i suppose? Its really stable? Distributed Version uses Cassandra
if i remember correctly. Its good and stable? As i see pretty old
implementation. Cassandra project looks good. Tell me your thoughts about
pg vs distributed please if u have time :)
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 18:16 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
>
> JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
> You would need to get your hand on the distributed implementation. Or get
> your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG native implementation.
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
> did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
> that?
> james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
> > This mail user agent is jmap only
> >
> > On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
> > > also have russian translation
> > >
> > > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for the interest.
> > >>
> > >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
> > property
> > >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
> > >> internationalisation based on this.
> > >>
> > >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>
> > >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> > >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> > >> product.
> > >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> > >>
> > >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
> > that
> > >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
> > >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
> > everything i
> > >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
> > >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
> > >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
> > simple
> > >> user create for jmap work?
> > >>
> > >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello
> > >>>
> > >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
> > >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
> > >>>
> > >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
> > >>>
> > >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>>
> > >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> > >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
> > >
> > >>> product.
> > >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> > >>>
> > >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
> > linagora
> > >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
> > >>>
> > >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>>>
> > >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> > >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> > >>>> product.
> > >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
> > showing
> > >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
> > messages
> > >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> > >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
> > and
> > >>>> what showing?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Interesting question!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
> > >>>>>
> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> > >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>>> that enables translating,
> > >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
> > compliant
> > >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> > >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> > >>>>> product.
> > >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
> > btellier@linagora.com
> > >>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Best regards
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Benoit
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
> > >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>.
JMAP is enabled by default, no need to do anything of the users.
JMAP is not implemented for the JPA version.
You would need to get your hand on the distributed implementation. Or get your hand on the soon-to-be-merged PG native implementation.
--
Best regards,
Benoit TELLIER
General manager of Linagora VIETNAM.
Product owner for Team-Mail product.
Chairman of the Apache James project.
Mail: btellier@linagora.com
Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
On Feb 7, 2025 11:56 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
that?
james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
> This mail user agent is jmap only
>
> On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
> > also have russian translation
> >
> > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> >
> >> Thanks for the interest.
> >>
> >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
> property
> >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
> >> internationalisation based on this.
> >>
> >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>
> >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> >> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> >> product.
> >> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> >>
> >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
> that
> >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
> >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
> everything i
> >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
> >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
> >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
> simple
> >> user create for jmap work?
> >>
> >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> >>
> >>> Hello
> >>>
> >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
> >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
> >>>
> >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
> >>>
> >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>>
> >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
> >
> >>> product.
> >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> >>>
> >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> >>>
> >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
> linagora
> >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
> >>>
> >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> >>>
> >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>>>
> >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> >>>> product.
> >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> >>>>
> >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
> showing
> >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
> messages
> >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
> and
> >>>> what showing?
> >>>>
> >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Interesting question!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
> >>>>>
> github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>> that enables translating,
> >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
> compliant
> >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> >>>>> product.
> >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
> btellier@linagora.com
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Benoit
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
> >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
Ah i see, too bad, but more clear code. As i see its Linagora project :) u
did great job for sure :) to use jmap with james i need create user like
that?
https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/operate/webadmin.html#_creating_a_jmap_user_identity
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 17:37 btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
> This mail user agent is jmap only
>
> On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
> > also have russian translation
> >
> > пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> >
> >> Thanks for the interest.
> >>
> >> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role
> property
> >> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
> >> internationalisation based on this.
> >>
> >> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>
> >> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> >> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> >> product.
> >> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
> >>
> >> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not
> that
> >> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
> >> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there
> everything i
> >> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
> >> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
> >> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER
> simple
> >> user create for jmap work?
> >>
> >> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> >>
> >>> Hello
> >>>
> >>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
> >>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
> >>>
> >>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
> >>>
> >>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>>
> >>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> >>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter
> >
> >>> product.
> >>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
> >>>
> >>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> >>>
> >>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in
> linagora
> >>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
> >>>
> >>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> >>>
> >>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>>>
> >>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> >>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> >>>> product.
> >>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> >>>>
> >>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client
> showing
> >>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send
> messages
> >>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> >>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients
> and
> >>>> what showing?
> >>>>
> >>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Interesting question!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
> >>>>>
> github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> >>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>> that enables translating,
> >>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For
> compliant
> >>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
> >>>>>
> >>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> >>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> >>>>> product.
> >>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> >>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <
> btellier@linagora.com
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Benoit
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
> >>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by "btellier@linagora.com" <bt...@linagora.com>.
This mail user agent is jmap only
On 07/02/2025 11:07, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
> also have russian translation
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
>> Thanks for the interest.
>>
>> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role property
>> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
>> internationalisation based on this.
>>
>> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>
>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>> product.
>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>
>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>>
>> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not that
>> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
>> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there everything i
>> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
>> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
>> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER simple
>> user create for jmap work?
>>
>> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>>>
>>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>>>
>>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>
>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>>> product.
>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>>
>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>
>>>
>>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>
>>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in linagora
>>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>>>
>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>
>>>> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>
>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>> product.
>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>>
>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>>
>>>> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
>>>> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
>>>> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>>>> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
>>>> what showing?
>>>>
>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting question!
>>>>>
>>>>> As of today, this is a constant:
>>>>> github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you need to customize this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>>>>> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>> that enables translating,
>>>>> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
>>>>> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>>>>
>>>>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>>>>> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>>>>> product.
>>>>> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>>>>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>>>>
>>>>> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>>>>>
>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not understand the question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Benoit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi guys :)
>>>>>>>> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for all ur help :) so i can use twake for imap too? I like it and
also have russian translation
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г., 16:58 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Thanks for the interest.
>
> RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role property
> and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native
> internationalisation based on this.
>
> It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not that
> flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
> pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there everything i
> need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
> TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
> as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER simple
> user create for jmap work?
>
> пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
>> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>>
>> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>>
>> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> *Benoit TELLIER*
>>
>> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
>> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
>> product.
>> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>>
>> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>>
>>
>> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>>
>> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in linagora
>> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>>
>> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>>
>> > Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > *Benoit TELLIER*
>> >
>> > General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>> > Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>> > product.
>> > Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>> >
>> > Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> >
>> > Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
>> > Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
>> > into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
>> > testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
>> > what showing?
>> >
>> > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>> >
>> > > Interesting question!
>> > >
>> > > As of today, this is a constant:
>> > > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Why do you need to customize this?
>> > >
>> > > Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
>> > > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>> that enables translating,
>> > > standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
>> > > IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > >
>> > > *Benoit TELLIER*
>> > >
>> > > General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
>> > > Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
>> > > product.
>> > > Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>> > >
>> > > Mail: btellier@linagora.com
>> > > Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>> > >
>> > > how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>> > >
>> > > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>> > > >
>> > > > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
>> > > > >:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hello,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I do not understand the question.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Best regards
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Benoit
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> > > >> > Hi guys :)
>> > > >> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>.
Thanks for the interest.
RFC-6514 IMAP special use had inspired RFC-8621 JMAP Mailbox role property and all clients (including Twake mail) can provide native internationalisation based on this.
It's as easy as providing the right translation file ;-)
--
Best regards,
Benoit TELLIER
General manager of Linagora VIETNAM.
Product owner for Team-Mail product.
Chairman of the Apache James project.
Mail: btellier@linagora.com
Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
On Feb 7, 2025 10:37 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not that flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there everything i need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time agoTWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER simple user create for jmap work?
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
Hello
Thunderbird works great for IMAPTWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
--
Best regards,
Benoit TELLIER
General manager of Linagora VIETNAM .
Product owner for Team-Mail product.
Chairman of the Apache James project .
Mail: btellier@linagora.com
Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in linagora
working with james? And if its james what database used?
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
>
> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
> what showing?
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <btellier@linagora.com >:
>
> > Interesting question!
> >
> > As of today, this is a constant:
> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
> >
> >
> > Why do you need to customize this?
> >
> > Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html > that enables translating,
> > standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
> > IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Benoit TELLIER*
> >
> > General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn >.
> > Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter >
> > product.
> > Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/ >.
> >
> > Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >
> >
> > how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> >
> > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <prosgarz35@gmail.com >:
> >
> > > Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> > >
> > > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> > > >:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I do not understand the question.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >>
> > >> Benoit
> > >>
> > >> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > >> > Hi guys :)
> > >> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
i find thunderbird not that good, have mapping to directories but not that
flexible and the interface after Outlook looks not that intuitive. its
pretty much joke but i find old 2013 year Opera Mail and there everything i
need (even UI clean and good) but project dropped long time ago
TWAKE mail looks rly good, its can be used for imap with rfc 6154 too?
as i understand correct JMAP need to be created for evry user AFTER simple
user create for jmap work?
пт, 7 февр. 2025 г. в 13:54, Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Hello
>
> Thunderbird works great for IMAP
> TWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
>
> We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
>
> Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in linagora
> working with james? And if its james what database used?
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
> > Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Benoit TELLIER*
> >
> > General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> > Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> > product.
> > Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> >
> > Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> >
> > Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
> > Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
> > into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> > testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
> > what showing?
> >
> > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> >
> > > Interesting question!
> > >
> > > As of today, this is a constant:
> > > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
> > >
> > >
> > > Why do you need to customize this?
> > >
> > > Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> > > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html>> that enables translating,
> > > standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
> > > IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > *Benoit TELLIER*
> > >
> > > General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> > > Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> > > product.
> > > Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> > >
> > > Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > > Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> > >
> > > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> > > >
> > > > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> > > > >:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> I do not understand the question.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards
> > > >>
> > > >> Benoit
> > > >>
> > > >> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > > >> > Hi guys :)
> > > >> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>.
Hello
Thunderbird works great for IMAPTWAKE mail will be top notch for jmap.
We are 6 james contributors at LINAGORA. Also acting as ops.
Our biggest deployment is 50.000 people.
--
Best regards,
Benoit TELLIER
General manager of Linagora VIETNAM.
Product owner for Team-Mail product.
Chairman of the Apache James project.
Mail: btellier@linagora.com
Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
Le févr. 7, 2025 1:10 AM, de Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in linagora
working with james? And if its james what database used?
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
> what showing?
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
> > Interesting question!
> >
> > As of today, this is a constant:
> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
> >
> >
> > Why do you need to customize this?
> >
> > Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html> that enables translating,
> > standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
> > IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Benoit TELLIER*
> >
> > General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> > Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> > product.
> > Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> >
> > Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> >
> > how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> >
> > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> > >
> > > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> > > >:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I do not understand the question.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >>
> > >> Benoit
> > >>
> > >> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > >> > Hi guys :)
> > >> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
What clients u can recommend? Also can u tell me how much ppl in linagora
working with james? And if its james what database used?
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 17:48 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
> Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
> into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
> testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
> what showing?
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
>
> > Interesting question!
> >
> > As of today, this is a constant:
> > github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
> >
> >
> > Why do you need to customize this?
> >
> > Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> > rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html> that enables translating,
> > standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
> > IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > *Benoit TELLIER*
> >
> > General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> > Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> > product.
> > Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
> >
> > Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> > Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
> >
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
> >
> > how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
> >
> > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> > >
> > > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> > > >:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I do not understand the question.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >>
> > >> Benoit
> > >>
> > >> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > >> > Hi guys :)
> > >> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>.
Outlook do not implement SPECIAL-USE so it is a client issue.
--
Best regards,
Benoit TELLIER
General manager of Linagora VIETNAM.
Product owner for Team-Mail product.
Chairman of the Apache James project.
Mail: btellier@linagora.com
Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
On Feb 6, 2025 11:10 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
what showing?
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Interesting question!
>
> As of today, this is a constant:
> github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>
>
> Why do you need to customize this?
>
> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html that enables translating,
> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> >
> > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> > >:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I do not understand the question.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Benoit
> >>
> >> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> >> > Hi guys :)
> >> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> >> >
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Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
Some clients show different results. Outlook 2019 and em client showing
Outbox folder, some others show Send and dont place already send messages
into it but rather into they version of Send folder, i can make some
testing, but what most important for this info? Language of clients and
what showing?
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г., 16:38 Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Interesting question!
>
> As of today, this is a constant:
> https://github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
>
>
> Why do you need to customize this?
>
> Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html that enables translating,
> standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant
> IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Benoit TELLIER*
>
> General manager of Linagora VIETNAM <https://linagora.vn>.
> Product owner for Team-Mail <https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter>
> product.
> Chairman of the Apache James project <https://james.apache.org/>.
>
> Mail: btellier@linagora.com
> Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>
>
> how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
> >
> > чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> > >:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I do not understand the question.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Benoit
> >>
> >> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> >> > Hi guys :)
> >> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> >> >
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Benoit TELLIER <bt...@linagora.com>.
Interesting question!
As of today, this is a constant: https://github.com/apache/james-project/blob/5b7f8f1e3dd9224eaa963a90e6f40d44db95067f/mailbox/api/src/main/java/org/apache/james/mailbox/DefaultMailboxes.java#L41
Why do you need to customize this?
Please note the IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.html that enables translating, standardizing and internationalisation of system folders. For compliant IMAP clients. Do your IMAP client implements this spec?
--
Best regards,
Benoit TELLIER
General manager of Linagora VIETNAM.
Product owner for Team-Mail product.
Chairman of the Apache James project.
Mail: btellier@linagora.com
Tel: (0033) 6 77 26 04 58 (WhatsApp, Signal)
On Feb 6, 2025 7:06 AM, from Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> >:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I do not understand the question.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Benoit
>>
>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> > Hi guys :)
>> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>> >
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>
>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
how to edit what will be created (Folders) when i make new user?
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:57, Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
>
> чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <btellier@linagora.com
> >:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I do not understand the question.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Benoit
>>
>> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
>> > Hi guys :)
>> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>> >
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscribe@james.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
>>
>>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by Ilya Terskov <pr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Benoit! i mean Folders like Inbox, Outbox, Sent etc
чт, 6 февр. 2025 г. в 12:52, btellier@linagora.com <bt...@linagora.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I do not understand the question.
>
> Best regards
>
> Benoit
>
> On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> > Hi guys :)
> > Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
> >
>
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>
>
Re: James Mailbox Directories
Posted by "btellier@linagora.com" <bt...@linagora.com>.
Hello,
I do not understand the question.
Best regards
Benoit
On 06/02/2025 03:02, Ilya Terskov wrote:
> Hi guys :)
> Tell me how to edit directories created upon create of user?
>
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